Shout out another “elite” HC like Mike Tomlin

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

You are being ironic, right?

Is it irony, or is it sarcasm? 🤔

7 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

His record is better than Cowher's and ppl have been trying to fire him since basically day one while Cowher is a God figure.

Cowher has a better 'glower'.

 I wonder if I should do up a bunch of T-shirts. 🤔

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Nobody looks as pissed off as Cowher.  Even when his teams scored, or made a good play.  Not even God looked as angry when he evicted Adam and Eve.

Edited January 16 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[FireChans]

6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

You do know he started his 3rd string QB tonight, right? You also know that he was playing without their Team's MVP, right?

I'm really grateful we didn't have to play against a healthy Watt.

He chose to start his third string QB. 
 

This isn’t “two guys went down with injury and can’t play.” You know that right?

38 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

You really think we won that game yesterday because Tomlin was out coached by McD and Brady? Bradys lack of running the ball from mid 2nd quarter to end of 3rd cost us blowing out an inferior opponent. We won that game despite incompetent decision making on the coaching staff giving up big 3rd and longs again and again. We won that game because we have the best player on the planet under center. We won that game because of these battle tested PLAYERS who have seen it all. Thankfully our coaches didn’t totally blow this game in spite of our amazing team. I would take any remaining playoff head coach (besides Tampa) and his staff 100 times out of 100 over ours and because we have the best all around team in the league and we’d roll to a Super Bowl this year with an “elite” HC and staff

The Bills came out and basically won the game in the first Q.

 

a quick 21-0 start with 2 turnovers was probably the exact opposite start Tomlin wanted.

 

So yeah, definitely outcoached.

[BillsFanSD]

Classless OP.  You take a Mason Rudolph-led team into the playoffs on the road without your all-world edge rusher and see how it goes for you.  

[FireChans]

26 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Maybe in the first half you can say he got out coached. He made better 2nd half adjustments than Mclappity. The game was still in doubt til late 4th quarter. 

 

All Tomlin does is win, and the last 5 Bills games all I heard was winning was all that matters. 

Tomlin doesn’t win playoff games.

 

That matters too, some people actually kill McD for not winning enough of them, but love Tomlin for never doing it.

[NeverOutNick]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He chose to start his third string QB. 
 

This isn’t “two guys went down with injury and can’t play.” You know that right?

The Bills came out and basically won the game in the first Q.

 

a quick 21-0 start with 2 turnovers was probably the exact opposite start Tomlin wanted.

 

So yeah, definitely outcoached.

This means Tomlin was outcoached? We start out hot after a couple turnovers and then struggle the rest of the game to find momentum because the Steelers keep fighting and you think this means Tomlin was coached? Interesting

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

This means Tomlin was outcoached? We start out hot after a couple turnovers and then struggle the rest of the game to find momentum because the Steelers keep fighting and you think this means Tomlin was coached? Interesting

Yes. They had no answers for our first two drives. Outprepared and outcoached.

 

if the Stillers went up 21-0 on the Bills early, I’m VERY confident no one would be talking about how good of a coaching job it was by McD having the boys ready to play and a good gameplan.

 

Then again, it’s just more of the same silly double standard when it comes to 0fer Tomlin who gets love for winning 9 games per season and smacked in the postseason.

Edited January 16 by FireChans

[dave mcbride]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

They still got a franchise QB after it. The idea they have to win 4 games to get a good QB is nonsense.

The guy he drafted in the third round 4 years ago and decided to start over the guy he drafted in the first round last year is his QB, imo. 

The bills got allen because they had a ridiculous amount of draft capital going into the 2018 draft after the cordy glenn trade, the tyrod taylor trade, and the 2017 kc trade that landed kc’s first rounder in 2018. That’s the only reason they got Allen, and that had nothing to do with coaching. 

Edited January 16 by dave mcbride

[FireChans]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

The bills got allen because they had a ridiculous amount of draft capital going into the 2018 draft after the cordy glenn, tyrod taylor, and 2017 kc trade that landed kc’s first rounder. That’s the only reason they got Allen, and that had nothing to do with coaching. 

The Steelers could trade some pieces and acquire some draft capital while still trying to limp into the postseason to get obliterated again.

 

I mean, why not? They do it every year regardless. Why not try to get an extra first for Minkah or 2 firsts for Watt?

[Since1981]

This take that Tomlin is not a solid HC is bogus. He’s where we were with Tyrod. Imagine that team with Josh Pat Lamar? They need a top 25 QB. 
 

agree. It’s not coaching. They do need to make moves / deals to get a real QB. Otherwise, they are middle road QB purgatory, for years

Edited January 16 by Since1981

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

The Steelers could trade some pieces and acquire some draft capital while still trying to limp into the postseason to get obliterated again.

 

I mean, why not? They do it every year regardless. Why not try to get an extra first for Minkah or 2 firsts for Watt?

They could, but that’s not something that Tomlin handles, and he’s the subject of your thread.

[Royale with Cheese]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Man oh man, this guy is just so elite.

 

He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. 

 

Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself.

 

All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. 
 

Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach.

 

SUPER SERIOUS EDIT:

 

I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy.

Great coaches typically win with 3rd string QB’s. 

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They could, but that’s not something that Tomlin handles, and he’s the subject of your thread.

Does Tomlin work with his GM or just follow orders? 
 

I’m pretty sure he’s allowed to say, “I’m not content to win 9 games and get dominated in the postseason, can you make some moves for better QB talent?”

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

Great coaches typically win with 3rd string QB’s. 

Mason Rudolph is the first string QB.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, FireChans said:

Does Tomlin work with his GM or just follow orders? 
 

I’m pretty sure he’s allowed to say, “I’m not content to win 9 games and get dominated in the postseason, can you make some moves for better QB talent?”

Mason Rudolph is the first string QB.

Rudolph is his first string QB as much as Tyrod Taylor is Dabolls first string QB.

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Does Tomlin work with his GM or just follow orders? 
 

I’m pretty sure he’s allowed to say, “I’m not content to win 9 games and get dominated in the postseason, can you make some moves for better QB talent?”

And if that GM doesn’t bring in the talent, then its Tomlins fault?

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Rudolph is his first string QB as much as Tyrod Taylor is Dabolls first string QB.

And if that GM doesn’t bring in the talent, then its Tomlins fault?

That’s actually completely wrong.

 

Daniel Jones is first string and is injured for the year. Tyrod started as a backup only.

 

Mason Rudolph is starting with Kenny Pickett, healthy, backing him up. 
 

It’s like folks don’t even pay attention around the league.

 

No, it’s not Tomlin’s fault. But I still won’t say he’s a better coach than McD, either.

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The bills got allen because they had a ridiculous amount of draft capital going into the 2018 draft after the cordy glenn trade, the tyrod taylor trade, and the 2017 kc trade that landed kc’s first rounder in 2018. That’s the only reason they got Allen, and that had nothing to do with coaching. 

 

Had nothing to do with coaching decisions, but when McDermott arrived they straight away uncommitted to Tyrod Taylor and forced him into a paycut and ripping up guarantees. Then McDermott ran the draft where they traded back. Then his buddy arrived as GM and started stockpiling picks.... This was the first time in forever a regime landed in Buffalo and said "guys you gotta get a Quarterback" and then began doing things aimed at getting one. Buffalo for years under a series of regimes had found reasons not draft Quarterbacks until they were backed into a corner. McDermott and Beane said "that is the most important move and we need to set ourselves up to make it." 

 

In doing so McDermott traded out of the pick that became Mahomes. And you have to be balanced and say that was, and is, a questionable decision. But they definitely had a plan that involved getting a proper Quarterback in the building. Not coaching as such but it was a decision that the regime made. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

 

Mason Rudolph is starting with Kenny Pickett, healthy, backing him up. 
 

 

And they are not committing to him as the starter for 2024. Or at least they weren't as of last week. We will see what they say in the end of year presser. But I expect them to try and re-sign Rudolph and have some form of competition. 

 

If Rudolph breaks free I would be interested in bringing him in to Buffalo and letting him compete for a backup job. I have been impressed with him the last month. Equally if they release Trubisky I'd be interested in kicking the tires on bringing him back too. 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

That’s actually completely wrong.

 

Daniel Jones is first string and is injured for the year. Tyrod started as a backup only.

 

Mason Rudolph is starting with Kenny Pickett, healthy, backing him up. 
 

It’s like folks don’t even pay attention around the league.

 

No, it’s not Tomlin’s fault. But I still won’t say he’s a better coach than McD, either.

Dude, use your head.

 

Tomlin named Kenny Pickett week 1 starter.  After Pickett was benched, why didn’t Rudolph go in immediately after?

He went to Rudolph because he had nothing else after Trubisky.  Being QB1 by default is a terrible argument.

 

Daniel Jones before getting hurt had 2 TD passes to 6 INT’s and a 70 QB rating.  How much longer was he going going to be the starter?

[Coach Tuesday]

The premise of this “thread” is that Tomlin has been anointed and built up by the media as “elite” when he doesn’t deserve it, whereas other coaches like McDermott have been torn down by the media when they’ve got similar or better credentials.

 

Of course, there’s a subtext to this “theory” - there always is with this particular poster - but if anyone called it out he’d act all shocked.  “What?  Oh no, I wasn’t saying THAT, why you must be reading into it, that’s a YOU problem!”  
 

Been years of this type of gaslighting by this particular poster.  Years.

Edited January 16 by Coach Tuesday

[ddaryl]

Tomlin is a solid HC. If Pittsburgh doesn't re ante he won't be unemployed long IMO

[Heavy Kevi]

10 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

For a team that carries a reputation for being about toughness and discipline they've had a weird number of examples of players lollygagging this season, most recently Minkah on Josh's long rushing TD today.

 

No, no, no

 

That was Josh cheating with a fake slide. Haven't you seen the KC and Dolphans complaining about it?