The offense is better without Gabe Davis

[KellyToTasker]

  On 1/16/2024 at 2:31 AM, DuckyBoys said:

Kincaid's been dropping his share past few  weeks  Mist be hanging out w Knox too much

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He pretty much only drops the

poorly thrown passes. Knox drops many of the well thrown passes. They’re not the same.

[Nextmanup]

  On 1/16/2024 at 1:17 AM, Buffalo Boy said:

Now, if we could get one more sure handed guy and get rid of Knox

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Last year when we took Kincaid with such a high draft pick I said the team would move on from Knox, and my post got slammed with people disagreeing and thumbs downing, etc.

 

Now comments like yours are increasingly common and don't seem to hit any friction.

 

We will definitely move on from Knox when we can.  His K is not tradable.

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

100%

[KellyToTasker]

  On 1/16/2024 at 3:02 AM, Einstein said:

 

Your analysis of the game is a bit myopic in my opinion.

 

Having those playmakers on the field, with their speed, was stressing the Steelers defense. Did you notice we had more open receivers this week (the first two TD’s were very open) than usual? It’s in part due to the stress that the speed on the field had on the Steelers. They had to compensate for it.

And this man has to get the ball more:

 

 

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I 110% agree, it was crazy how much of a cushion they had at times. I hope Davis doesn’t play as much. Let the other guys play, it’s working. 

[NewEra]

10 is a baller.  Get him the ball.  86,4 +10 on rookie contracts puts us in a good position. 
 

we just need to fend off injuries ffs. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

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[Kwai San]

  On 1/16/2024 at 1:20 AM, Einstein said:

 

Sigh. Knox is an enigma. He does so many good things… but then drops a wide open pass that hits him square in the hands. Frustrating.

 

I’d also like to see Kincaid go up and get the ball too. He would have had a 2nd TD if he didn’t wait for the ball to get to him (allowed the defender to deflect it). If he had went up and hand-caught it (ala Gronk), he would unlock a new level.

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Ummmm - he is a rookie still.....let's give him some time.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 1/16/2024 at 3:38 AM, streetkings01 said:

Gabe going up against his favorite team this week.

Offense scored 31 points…..should’ve been 37.

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Ok. And they let Pittsburgh get back into the game before putting them away.

[Buffalo Boy]

  On 1/16/2024 at 3:44 AM, Nextmanup said:

Last year when we took Kincaid with such a high draft pick I said the team would move on from Knox, and my post got slammed with people disagreeing and thumbs downing, etc.

 

Now comments like yours are increasingly common and don't seem to hit any friction.

 

We will definitely move on from Knox when we can.  His K is not tradable.

 

 

 

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, I was definitely not one of the slammers. Knox has not been dependable from the get go. He’s a good story and a nice guy but we have all seen enough. 
 

[papazoid]

"The offense is better without Gabe Davis"

 

i agree....

 

how many interceptions did josh throw ?......answer: NONE !......that's not a coincidence.

[Mr. WEO]

  On 1/16/2024 at 12:51 AM, Einstein said:

Is refreshing.

Gabe being out allowed us to get our playmakers like Hardy and Shakir on the field more often (more snaps to go around). And they both delivered at key times!

 

And it’s not just the opponent. That Steelers defense was #6 in the NFL in points against, and that was the MOST points the Steelers gave up all season (and that’s even with TWO missed field goals).

 

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other than Diggs, the Bills WRs had 3 catches yesterday.   Harty had a good RAC on his one catch yesterday but otherwise hasn't done anything the past 3 weeks.  After the half, the Bills struggled---Murray was getting targets?!  On their 1st series they punted.  On the second series, 14 plays and only once was a WR targeted. FG was the result.  Next series, 2 WRs targeted in 9 plays, TD. 

With the lead slipping away, Allen attempted 10 passes in the second half, only 3 to WRs.  For the game, the RBs had more targets than Shakir and Harty.

 

I think they could have used Davis out there for sure.

 

This thread is just a cheap shot.

[streetkings01]

  On 1/16/2024 at 6:53 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Ok. And they let Pittsburgh get back into the game before putting them away.

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We won 31-17…..we scored 30+ points and we kept the Steelers under 20. It’s the playoffs and that was a good dub!

[mjt328]

The Steelers were very thin at Linebacker, and it's clear we focused on attacking them with our Tight Ends.

 

Against the Chiefs, we may need some production from the outside receivers.  Getting Gabe Davis back would be very good.

[Einstein]

  On 1/16/2024 at 1:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

other than Diggs, the Bills WRs had 3 catches yesterday.  

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4, actually. Including the game clinching TD.

 

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/252550-the-offense-is-better-without-gabe-davis/?do=findComment&comment=8878849

 

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/16/2024 at 12:51 AM, Einstein said:

The offense is better without Gabe Davis

 

And it’s not just the opponent. That Steelers defense was #6 in the NFL in points against, and that was the MOST points the Steelers gave up all season (and that’s even with TWO missed field goals).

 

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It absolutely is just the opponent. Every opponent is different. Which often means different personnel groups and game plans work better against some teams than others.

 

The offense is better varying personnel and tactics week to week and depending on the game plan and the defense's capabilities, personnel and specific game plans for the Bills offense.

 

The Steelers are the 21st ranked defense. They aren't playing that badly right now, but without Watt they also weren't themselves at all.

 

Oh, and don't act like you're being intellectually fair by mentioning the "TWO missed field goals" and then forgetting to mention that one Bill TD came on a 1-play 29 yard drive. Drives that start on your opponent's 29 yard line aren't mostly on the defense if you score. And one of the missed field goals came on a drive starting at the Pittsburgh 32. One more drive started at the Bills 44. Drive starts like that will greatly jack up your odds of scoring more.

 

 

  On 1/16/2024 at 3:44 AM, Nextmanup said:

Last year when we took Kincaid with such a high draft pick I said the team would move on from Knox, and my post got slammed with people disagreeing and thumbs downing, etc.

 

Now comments like yours are increasingly common and don't seem to hit any friction.

 

We will definitely move on from Knox when we can.  His K is not tradable.

 

 

 

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If by "definitely" you mean that it's not impossible, I'd have to agree.

[Einstein]

  On 1/16/2024 at 2:32 PM, Thurman#1 said:

It absolutely is just the opponent.

 

The Steelers are the 21st ranked defense.

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6th ranked actually, in points given up per game. Which is a far more telling stat than yards given up, wouldn’t you say?

 

The offense tied the highest points output we have had in 7 weeks. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 1/16/2024 at 1:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

other than Diggs, the Bills WRs had 3 catches yesterday.   Harty had a good RAC on his one catch yesterday but otherwise hasn't done anything the past 3 weeks.  After the half, the Bills struggled---Murray was getting targets?!  On their 1st series they punted.  On the second series, 14 plays and only once was a WR targeted. FG was the result.  Next series, 2 WRs targeted in 9 plays, TD. 

With the lead slipping away, Allen attempted 10 passes in the second half, only 3 to WRs.  For the game, the RBs had more targets than Shakir and Harty.

 

I think they could have used Davis out there for sure.

 

This thread is just a cheap shot.

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The ‘struggle’ is a bit overblown imo…Steelers are a good defense even without watt…you’re not gonna score a td every time.  A Tomlin defense giving up 31 and possibly more if we didn’t ice the game is very unusual 

  On 1/16/2024 at 2:32 PM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It absolutely is just the opponent. Every opponent is different. Which often means different personnel groups and game plans work better against some teams than others.

 

The offense is better varying personnel and tactics week to week and depending on the game plan and the defense's capabilities, personnel and specific game plans for the Bills offense.

 

The Steelers are the 21st ranked defense. They aren't playing that badly right now, but without Watt they also weren't themselves at all.

 

Oh, and don't act like you're being intellectually fair by mentioning the "TWO missed field goals" and then forgetting to mention that one Bill TD came on a 1-play 29 yard drive. Drives that start on your opponent's 29 yard line aren't mostly on the defense if you score. And one of the missed field goals came on a drive starting at the Pittsburgh 32. One more drive started at the Bills 44. Drive starts like that will greatly jack up your odds of scoring more.

 

 

 

 

If by "definitely" you mean that it's not impossible, I'd have to agree.

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21st ranked defense?  Lol theyre like 6th in DVOA and points allowed 

[skibum]

I think the Bills offense is better when they are playing the Steelers.

 

Davis has had some big games vs. the Chiefs - they are going to need him out there. 

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[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 1/16/2024 at 2:37 PM, Einstein said:

 

6th ranked actually, in points given up per game. Which is a far more telling stat than yards given up, wouldn’t you say?

 

The offense tied the highest points output we have had in 7 weeks. 

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I’ll genuinely never understand how people will talk our opponents up all week then we win and they’re like ‘well our opponent was bad’ 😂. Mason Rudolph was on a heater which prompted the benching of Pickett who was ready for the Vikings game but we beat a third string qb apparently and bad defense lol 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

  On 1/16/2024 at 1:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

other than Diggs, the Bills WRs had 3 catches yesterday.   Harty had a good RAC on his one catch yesterday but otherwise hasn't done anything the past 3 weeks.  After the half, the Bills struggled---Murray was getting targets?!  On their 1st series they punted.  On the second series, 14 plays and only once was a WR targeted. FG was the result.  Next series, 2 WRs targeted in 9 plays, TD. 

With the lead slipping away, Allen attempted 10 passes in the second half, only 3 to WRs.  For the game, the RBs had more targets than Shakir and Harty.

 

I think they could have used Davis out there for sure.

 

This thread is just a cheap shot.

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What, to run the wrong route or to drop the ball?

 

Brady was game planning what the D was giving them and it worked. The WRs were getting open and the Stillers adjusted so Brady adjusted...

[Logic]

Kind of a small sample size, no?