Injuries vs Steelers - Update from McDermott

[NewEra]

  On 1/17/2024 at 12:43 AM, Limeaid said:

 

It is not just pain management for additional hits or moving wrong way could cause more damage causing recovery to take longer or require surgery if it does not need it now.

 

I think Kyle Allen has some experience holding for FGs, saw a picture of him doing it, but not sure if he has every done it in a game.

 

 

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Dam!!  Thanks for the update 

[Big Blitz]

  On 1/16/2024 at 11:04 PM, Beck Water said:

 

So what are our options for a punter?

 

 

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We don’t.  

[NewEra]

  On 1/17/2024 at 1:10 AM, YattaOkasan said:

Taron will have to set a new PR for getting out of CP but he has been quick before 

Benford is a torn meniscus. May just be pain management 

mcgovern went back in the game I think and seems fine?

He’s out

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Daaaam, torn miniscus is a pain tolerance thing huh?

 

martin is out?  Oh man.  Afc ST player of the month- toast.  
 

So much luck involved with winning a Sb.  How many starters are the Chiefs missing?  Niners have everyone healthy.  

 

 

 

 

[Charles Romes]

With these way too-long seasons (17 putting it over the critical mass), the Super Bowl winner will be more and more simply the luckiest and least injured team, not the best team.
 

 It’s like in baseball where there is little correlation between the best team and the champion (the champion often having the streaky hot pitcher). 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

  On 1/17/2024 at 12:26 AM, PetermansRedemption said:

I’m shocked by this. Seems like he’s been around forever. 

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Looks like he's been around forever!

[beebe]

Chances of playing this week based on current info. Would you bet over (better chance) or under (worse chance) on the following?

 

LIKELY IN 

 

-Baylon Spector 85% (likely spasms, mostly pain management thing)

 

-Rasul Douglas 75% (putting significant stock in what he told Tim Graham, because he did not practice last week, and McDermott suggested he wasn't closer than Dodson was to play vs Steelers)

 

-Tyrel Dodson 75% (seemed like he was closer to playing last week than Douglas, but always possible mcdermott is being overly vague/non transparent) 

 

TOSS UP 

 

-Sam Martin 50% (seems like a true toss up right now) 

 

-Gabe Davis 50% (seems highly questionable, don't have a lean one way or the other)

 

LIKELY OUT 

 

-Terrel Bernard 15% (seems like a long shot to play despite better-than-expected postgame injury news)

 

-Taron Johnson 25% (multiple concussions in same season, seems unlikely he would clear protocol given short week)

 

-Christian Benford 35% (didn't return to game, seems like possible meniscus per banged up bills, but either way, seems more unlikely than likely)

[phypon]

  On 1/17/2024 at 1:09 AM, Bad Things said:

You may want to go over your own messages and check spellings before criticizing others.

Just saying.

 

(And yes, the "an" drove me nuts too.) 

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You may w"o"nt to acquire the ability to discern the difference between a type and a grammatical error.  Just sayin'. F you.  :-)

  On 1/17/2024 at 2:32 AM, phypon said:

You may w"o"nt to acquire the ability to discern the difference between a typo and a grammatical error.  Just sayin'. F you.  :-)

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[balln]

The whole “concussion protocol” is a bunch of garbage. It’s a nonsense term. Basically anything that’s neurological they lump in. They put stingers in concussion protocol. Hyde twice this year. So let’s just wait and see if Johnson practices. 
 

 

[zow2]

It would be surprising if Taron did not get cleared for a game of this magnitude.  My gosh, Stafford was knocked woozy the other night and his eyes rolled to the back of his head. He was back in the next series as it was a critical point in the game. 

If Taron himself says he can’t play that’s another story. 

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 1/17/2024 at 1:51 AM, without a drought said:

Matt Haack was never a favorite of mine, but he does check the boxes of being a veteran,  experience holding (for Bass too) and he just played a game for the Browns in December.

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Dear God not Haack and his 7 yard shanks.

[zow2]

Maybe Bass will do better with a new holder.  Instead of mentally focused on how much he’s sucking on FGs and killing the team , he can focus on getting the holder up to speed and the mechanics.  Just grasping lol.

[JohnNord]

  On 1/17/2024 at 2:14 AM, beebe said:

Chances of playing this week based on current info. Would you bet over (better chance) or under (worse chance) on the following?

 

LIKELY IN 

 

-Baylon Spector 85% (likely spasms, mostly pain management thing)

 

-Rasul Douglas 75% (putting significant stock in what he told Tim Graham, because he did not practice last week, and McDermott suggested he wasn't closer than Dodson was to play vs Steelers)

 

-Tyrel Dodson 75% (seemed like he was closer to playing last week than Douglas, but always possible mcdermott is being overly vague/non transparent) 

 

TOSS UP 

 

-Sam Martin 50% (seems like a true toss up right now) 

 

-Gabe Davis 50% (seems highly questionable, don't have a lean one way or the other)

 

LIKELY OUT 

 

-Terrel Bernard 15% (seems like a long shot to play despite better-than-expected postgame injury news)

 

-Taron Johnson 25% (multiple concussions in same season, seems unlikely he would clear protocol given short week)

 

-Christian Benford 35% (didn't return to game, seems like possible meniscus per banged up bills, but either way, seems more unlikely than likely)

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That banged up Bills guy does a. Good job spotting injuries but he’s wrong a lot of the time when it comes to returns.  In the past month, he said that DaQuan Jones wasn’t going to be activated when he was.  He also predicted that Rasul and Dodson were playing last week.  The week before vs. Miami, he said Waddle and Mostert were going to play.  
 

Nothing against him, but he’s just making educated guess like a lot of us are and missing a lot of important medical information.  Of course he’s a PT, so he has a much more informed take than the average fan but his estimates are still guesses and far from certain.  

[Beck Water]

  On 1/17/2024 at 2:14 AM, beebe said:

Chances of playing this week based on current info. Would you bet over (better chance) or under (worse chance) on the following?

 

LIKELY IN 

 

-Baylon Spector 85% (likely spasms, mostly pain management thing)

 

-Rasul Douglas 75% (putting significant stock in what he told Tim Graham, because he did not practice last week, and McDermott suggested he wasn't closer than Dodson was to play vs Steelers)

 

-Tyrel Dodson 75% (seemed like he was closer to playing last week than Douglas, but always possible mcdermott is being overly vague/non transparent) 

 

TOSS UP 

 

-Sam Martin 50% (seems like a true toss up right now) 

 

-Gabe Davis 50% (seems highly questionable, don't have a lean one way or the other)

 

LIKELY OUT 

 

-Terrel Bernard 15% (seems like a long shot to play despite better-than-expected postgame injury news)

 

-Taron Johnson 25% (multiple concussions in same season, seems unlikely he would clear protocol given short week)

 

-Christian Benford 35% (didn't return to game, seems like possible meniscus per banged up bills, but either way, seems more unlikely than likely)

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Where are these "chances" coming from?

 

  On 1/17/2024 at 2:59 AM, JohnNord said:

That banged up Bills guy does a. Good job spotting injuries but he’s wrong a lot of the time when it comes to returns.  In the past month, he said that DaQuan Jones wasn’t going to be activated when he was.  He also predicted that Rasul and Dodson were playing last week.  The week before vs. Miami, he said Waddle and Mostert were going to play.  
 

Nothing against him, but he’s just making educated guess like a lot of us are and missing a lot of important medical information.  Of course he’s a PT, so he has a much more informed take than the average fan but his estimates are still guesses and far from certain.  

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Right, basically he can make an educated guess based on the mechanics of the injury, but he lacks the specifics (is it a grade 1 or 2 sprain?  is there a torn meniscus or is it just a sprain? and if it's torn, where and how badly?)

 

  On 1/16/2024 at 11:53 PM, Special K said:

 

I remember earlier in the year, Bernard was rolling around in pain after a leg injury bad enough that it looked like his season was over, then he came back into the game a few series later.

 

Maybe he just has a low pain tolerance when an injury first occurs, and Monday was an example of that.

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Or maybe the trainers who examine him splinted him and put him on a cart for x-rays because that's what the exam indicated.  "low pain tolerance" my Aunt Fanny.

Edited January 17, 2024 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

  On 1/17/2024 at 1:10 AM, YattaOkasan said:

Taron will have to set a new PR for getting out of CP but he has been quick before 

Benford is a torn meniscus. May just be pain management 

mcgovern went back in the game I think and seems fine?

He’s out

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Where is this information (Benford having a torn meniscus, Martin being out) coming from?

[BuffaninSarasota]

[scuba guy]

  On 1/17/2024 at 3:14 AM, BuffaninSarasota said:

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Sweet 😋 

[Special K]

  On 1/17/2024 at 3:03 AM, Beck Water said:

 

Or maybe the trainers who examine him splinted him and put him on a cart for x-rays because that's what the exam indicated.  "low pain tolerance" my Aunt Fanny.

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I was in no way questioning Bernard’s toughness....he’s a tough dude.....but everyone responds to pain differently in the moment....maybe his default reaction is to assume the worst in the moment......there’s nothing wrong with that if that is the case.

[JohnNord]

  On 1/17/2024 at 3:09 AM, Beck Water said:

 

Where is this information (Benford having a torn meniscus, Martin being out) coming from?

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It’s all guess work - my guess this was derived from the banged up bills guy which goes back to my original point about him.
 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

  On 1/17/2024 at 3:16 AM, scuba guy said:

Sweet 😋 

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Put him on Kelsey and blitz kermit.

[Beck Water]

  On 1/17/2024 at 3:14 AM, BuffaninSarasota said:

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I mean, this would be sweet if true, but I'm pretty sure Rasul Douglas Twitter is @RasulEra and his Insta is @rd32_era.  These accounts are followed by a number of Bills media.

 

So I'm not sure about this rasulxera account.  In the Instagram Insta, it identifies as a "FANPAGE FOR rasul douglas".

 

That's not to say it might not be run by a close friend or relative who has inside info, but at this point of the week, with Douglas DNP all 3 practices last week,  I don't see how it can be said "Rasul has been cleared".  Practing, and how the body reacts to that, is part of the process of giving a guy the thumbs up to play.