BillsShredder83 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 13 hours ago, boyst said: DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A PERFORMANCE PIECE OF YOUR ARTICULATION ON HIS PLAYING ABILITY, OR HIS CRIMINAL CASE, PLEASE. As per his IG story he celebrated his 169 day of sobriety. Substance abuse is real, it is ugly, and it can have terrible consequences. Anyone can develop it and suffer. Congratulations to him and everyone else on their efforts to lead a healthy lifestyle. Anyone struggling should know they're not alone. Others have been there and going through it, too. Your friends, family, and fellow Bills fans want you to succeed. at this risk of sounding self-servy douchey, i hit 4 years clean last Saturday. LITERALLY saved my life. reach out to family, friends, a 12step program, a professional, doesnt really matter who, just get the ball rolling and youll find your route there! 4 4 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I don't believe it... sorry, but the alleged incident didn't supposedly happen out of the ether. Many addicts can claim they are clean... Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: at this risk of sounding self-servy douchey, i hit 4 years clean last Saturday. LITERALLY saved my life. reach out to family, friends, a 12step program, a professional, doesnt really matter who, just get the ball rolling and youll find your route there! 18 years for me this past October. Good job Shredder 1 3 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Respect for Von becoming sober. It's been almost 2 years for me and I haven't looked back 2 4 Quote
muppy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Alcoholics Anonymous being a program that helps achieve sobriety keeps anonymity as a premise. But folks who succeed wish to celebrate it, maybe acknowledge and make it a power statement and do so publically. Maybe the difference is doing so Publicly vs privately I totally get and agree with doing that. More power to him! Just to clarify my previous thought. Quote
Blackbeard Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, colin said: Like epilepsy? Does that mean epileptics should quit having epilepsy and avoid relapses and they can just not have seizers? No, no one actually thinks that. It's not the same as a disease, is it? Ignorance at its finest. 2 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Good for Von! I’ve worked in human services for nearly 6 years, most of that time in shelters. How much you make and ease of avoiding/battling addiction do not run parallel to each other. Quote
colin Posted January 11 Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Ignorance at its finest. well, tbh i'm not acknowledging what the modern meaning of disease is, which is something that absolves a person of their own bad actions. so in a way, you are correct. but, in another more accurate way, no, no you are quite wrong. 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted January 11 Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, colin said: well, tbh i'm not acknowledging what the modern meaning of disease is, which is something that absolves a person of their own bad actions. so in a way, you are correct. but, in another more accurate way, no, no you are quite wrong. Didn't you get enough attention as a kid? 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, Blackbeard said: Didn't you get enough attention as a kid? “Decades of Science, psychology, and sociology be damned, here’s my own personal opinion which is basically a fact” 2 Quote
colin Posted January 11 Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Didn't you get enough attention as a kid? maybe im just ADDICTED to attention, which i've come to learn from the wise and informed on here is a disease! hey, im five minutes sober now, will you guys be throwing me a parade? i cured my own disease, via not doing the thing i did before. like magic! Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am 11 days into dry January. I do it every year but this year I was particularly focussed on it because I did worry that in the final months of 2023 I might have been pretty close to being dependant. The opening of a bottle of wine when I get home / finish work had become a core part of my own stress management. I have found it much easier than I thought, which in a sense is reassuring that I am not as close to dependency as I might have feared.... but also the fact that I don't really feel like a drink suggests that at the end of last year I was drinking through habit not because I particularly wanted a drink and that in itself isn't a great place to be. I don't have any intention of giving up longer term, but post January I am definitely going to try and put some better guard rails around when I do and don't drink the rest of the year. Because it an easily become a crutch. I wont pretend to know your status with alcohol, and everyone is very different, but booze is conniving and tricky. It will convince you its every factor (oh me and :booze type here: dont get along very well, if i avoid THAT one, ill be fine) other than the booze. Try to take a close look at it through January, and see if anything changes. Nothing but love from me, im not anti-drinking, just anti-me-drinking lol take care of yourself and just be aware of how tricky it can be. personally for me, i had it down to, "as long as i dont drink liquors ending in letter A, on days I eat ham, and wear no show ankle socks, im fine" lol being facetious a bit, but really i had a million of these that i believed hook line n sinker 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted January 11 Posted January 11 18 minutes ago, colin said: maybe im just ADDICTED to attention, which i've come to learn from the wise and informed on here is a disease! hey, im five minutes sober now, will you guys be throwing me a parade? i cured my own disease, via not doing the thing i did before. like magic! Ignorant and d bag. Makes sense. usually the two go hand in hand. 1 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am 11 days into dry January. I do it every year but this year I was particularly focussed on it because I did worry that in the final months of 2023 I might have been pretty close to being dependant. The opening of a bottle of wine when I get home / finish work had become a core part of my own stress management. I have found it much easier than I thought, which in a sense is reassuring that I am not as close to dependency as I might have feared.... but also the fact that I don't really feel like a drink suggests that at the end of last year I was drinking through habit not because I particularly wanted a drink and that in itself isn't a great place to be. I don't have any intention of giving up longer term, but post January I am definitely going to try and put some better guard rails around when I do and don't drink the rest of the year. Because it an easily become a crutch. A nightly bottle of wine at dinner and an after dinner whiskey for dessert is a pretty standard experience around here. I've never thought of it as a dependency thing and isn't really about getting intoxicated - more about just making every meal and evening as nice as possible - though I have considered at times that it may be habit forming even if no one is getting sloppy. After a good 10 years of it being the norm, I don't find I need a drink when it's not there, but it all makes you wonder, especially when you come from families that have problems. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 11 Posted January 11 14 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said: Surely people here will be supportive, and not take this as a chance to bash him. ....too late, already several yahoos chiming in... Quote
RiotAct Posted January 11 Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: A nightly bottle of wine at dinner and an after dinner whiskey for dessert is a pretty standard experience around here. Like; per person? Or shared between a few people? Quote
colin Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Blackbeard said: Ignorant and d bag. Makes sense. usually the two go hand in hand. weak willed and pity seeking, like peas in a pod. Quote
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