ToGoGo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 What’s wrong with everyone here? When will someone mention the elephant in the room that we signed someone to a $100M contract who had a drinking problem apparently. Let’s hope it was minor and this is some dry January crap. 1 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Glad he’s done drinking I guess. With a couple of recovering alcoholics in my family I think he sounds like a dry drunk. For many booze is only part of the problem. Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Good for Von, truly, it’s many steps in the right direction to get to this point, he basically has gotten himself to the starting line, now let’s all hope his head comes the rest of the way out of his azs…, hope nothing but the best for him, Quote
boyst Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 1 hour ago, boater said: My curiosity is piqued. I wish you had a link to something to read. https://www.instagram.com/stories/vonmiller/3277454600315551867?igsh=MTIxN3ZpcGEybjJvcg== Try that. I don't know if IG works to link 1 Quote
todd Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Addiction is nasty. I know quite a few people who have battled it and are doing well, some people who try but are not, and one who is no longer here. It pains me to see people make nasty comments about 1) A Buffalo Bill, and 2) Someone who is trying to make themselves better. It makes me sad when people insinuate that people who have addiction issues are bad people. Ever know someone who smokes, has tried to quit but can't, or has quit successfully? Then you know an addict. Hope you don't think less of any of them. And no, this doesn't mean I'm not concerned about the domestic violence stuff. People are multi-faceted, and opinions can be, too. 1 1 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 56 minutes ago, Simon said: alcohol? Yes. He just has a simple counter, nothing fancy. 16 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: What’s wrong with everyone here? When will someone mention the elephant in the room that we signed someone to a $100M contract who had a drinking problem apparently. Let’s hope it was minor and this is some dry January crap. Yeah, glad we kept Jordan Poyer on the team after he admitted he needed help. His wife was ready to leave him, he was making horrible choices, he was drunk most hours of the day he said. 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: 53 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: No its certainly real. I just dont have any sympathy for it. Guy beats women and has an addiction problem. Continue to be better...good. Im not clapping my hands for that *****. What are your thoughts on Poyer? 1 Quote
Ramza86 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 18 minutes ago, boyst said: Yes. He just has a simple counter, nothing fancy. Yeah, glad we kept Jordan Poyer on the team after he admitted he needed help. His wife was ready to leave him, he was making horrible choices, he was drunk most hours of the day he said. What are your thoughts on Poyer? Same thing. No sympathy from me. Do better and when/if you do....you dont get a freaking standing O for doing what youre supposed to. 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 11 Posted January 11 36 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Same thing. No sympathy from me. Do better and when/if you do....you dont get a freaking standing O for doing what youre supposed to. Yeah, you don’t believe addiction is real. 1 Quote
Gugny Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, boyst said: DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A PERFORMANCE PIECE OF YOUR ARTICULATION ON HIS PLAYING ABILITY, OR HIS CRIMINAL CASE, PLEASE. As per his IG story he celebrated his 169 day of sobriety. Substance abuse is real, it is ugly, and it can have terrible consequences. Anyone can develop it and suffer. Congratulations to him and everyone else on their efforts to lead a healthy lifestyle. Anyone struggling should know they're not alone. Others have been there and going through it, too. Your friends, family, and fellow Bills fans want you to succeed. Congratulations to the washed up woman beater!! 1 1 4 1 Quote
Taro Nimbus Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Surely people here will be supportive, and not take this as a chance to bash him. 1 2 Quote
Behindenemylines Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I would dare say being part of the Bills organization has probably helped him succeed in his sobriety. McD may have his issues as a coach but I believe he is a top notch human and cares more about his players as people than most others. 5 Quote
muppy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 it doesn't say why 169 was significant. Other than that is an achievement in itself. And deciding to announce it publicly is a step not everyone takes. Keep it going Von. I don't know what else to say. Quote
Ray Stonada Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Being on a football team like being in a band can easily lead to these issues. I think it’s cool NFL players now try to deal with them openly and are less afraid of being stigmatized for trying to improve. Back in the 90s I used to see some of the Bills out and about on Elmwood or Chippewa and they had often had over ten drinks, by the looks of it. No judgment as I have been there. I grew up in Buffalo! They have to blow off steam somehow with all the pressure and intensity of the job, but that can get out of control quickly. Let’s applaud those like Poyer and Von who are open about needing help. It could help untold Bills fans with similar issues try to get help. 1 Quote
Ghs24mike Posted January 11 Posted January 11 9 hours ago, Ramza86 said: I have no pity for a guy who has everything he has and cant get it right. Simple as. It's a paradox because the more he has, the more discipline he has to have. Easy to say no to things you cant get When you can get anything you want in the world, its harder. Quote
cwater10 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 9 hours ago, Ramza86 said: I have no pity for a guy who has everything he has and cant get it right. Simple as. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of "has everything". 1 1 Quote
Shortchaz Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, muppy said: it doesn't say why 169 was significant. Other than that is an achievement in itself. And deciding to announce it publicly is a step not everyone takes. Keep it going Von. I don't know what else to say. The neediness is something I don’t identify with, the sobriety is. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I am 11 days into dry January. I do it every year but this year I was particularly focussed on it because I did worry that in the final months of 2023 I might have been pretty close to being dependant. The opening of a bottle of wine when I get home / finish work had become a core part of my own stress management. I have found it much easier than I thought, which in a sense is reassuring that I am not as close to dependency as I might have feared.... but also the fact that I don't really feel like a drink suggests that at the end of last year I was drinking through habit not because I particularly wanted a drink and that in itself isn't a great place to be. I don't have any intention of giving up longer term, but post January I am definitely going to try and put some better guard rails around when I do and don't drink the rest of the year. Because it an easily become a crutch. 6 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Without any article or context…miller, an adult for 5,800 days has been sober for 169 days. Quote
zevo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 10 hours ago, Ramza86 said: I have no pity for a guy who has everything he has and cant get it right. Simple as. Someone may appear to have everything. appearances can be deceiving. Quote
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