Steelers @ Bills. Monday, January 15th at 4:30pm.

[YattaOkasan]

24 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

If it does snow, I think that will be a situation where it'll be much better to have Brady instead of Dorsey as OC.  Over the last year or so, and specifically in the "I don't watch that much film" quote, I've heard Allen said that they don't want to focus on what the other team does.  The Bills offense should just impose its will regardless of what the D is doing. Based on what I've seen on the field, I'm guessing that came from Dorsey and Allen was repeating it.  Dorsey seems much more willing to adjust based on the situation (eg, running the ball a million times because Dallas can't stop it).  I remember after the wildcard game last year, a Bengals player was mocking the Bills offense because they were running routes that are hard to run in the snow.  Keep it simple in the snow.  It's hard to run a double move, but it's hard to defend just a simple in cut because the offense player knows where he is going and doesn't have to try and cut as abruptly.  As someone pointed out, the Kelly Bills used to score a ton in snowy games.  Offense can be really effective.  The Bengal's point was that everyone knows the kind of routes you need to run on snow and the Bills just refused to run them.  That seems very Dorsey-esque to me.

Bit of this is substantiated.  I forget where I heard but someone commented that Brady is always looking for Waldo when he game preps.  Waldo is the guy they are gonna target.  In the dallas game Waldo was Bell I believe, and they ran right at him.  I think Apple was waldo against Miami because as soon as Diggs had one on one with him they took the shot,TD to Sherfield was targeting him as well.  This game I think one of the LBs will be Waldo and I think Cook and the DKs get going.  

[UKBillFan]

49 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Allow me to ask as well, why is it that you think that there's a "churn" at OC that is preventing the optimization of the "key player" on the team?  

 

Even Daboll's credentials coming here were incredibly questionable.  

 

 

 

I'm not sure anything can be trusted for lake effect snow events.  

 

Remember that monster storm we had what, six or seven years ago maybe.  

 

The computer weather models suck these days anyway.  

 

 

 

A higher degree of competence from Dorsey may have reduced the immediate churn somewhat, but having a defensive Head Coach means OC's have to look elsewhere for HC opportunities without having an offensive minded head coach in place to keep things ticking over.

[H2o]

This weather forecast makes me a bit nervous. 

[Gman10]

48 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Local weather guys are usually pretty accurate 2 days out. 

Said no one ever...🤣

Edited January 11 by Gman10

[North Buffalo]

Just play the hand you are dealt

 

[Warriorspikes51]

If we need to, Allen can run 20 times. I'd also like to see Fournette more involved this week 

[Warriorspikes51]

Allen has 63 carries over 7 games with Joe Brady, including 15 last week.  

 

 

Hopefully the team is reminded how they got physically man handled by the Bengals to end last season and comes out playing mean 

Edited January 11 by Warriorspikes51

[Low Positive]

There seems to be a narrative building around here that Pittsbugh is a run-first team and has a better rushing attack than the Bills. Let's take a look at the numbers, shall we?

 

2023 Stats

 

STEELERS: 2010 RUSHING YARDS ON 487 ATTEMPTS

BILLS: 2212 RUSHING YARDS ON 512 ATTEMPTS

 

Your 2023 Buffalo Bills have the 5th most rushing attempts in the NFL. The Bills also rank 8th in YPC. In other words, the Bills have been a better rushing team than the Steelers this year. I know that doesn't fit historical reputations or the popular narrative, but those are the facts. 

[RunTheBall]

The weather talk here has reached peak BBFS levels. I’m getting depressed reading the constant belly-aching.

 

Who cares if it’s windy? We don’t have a downfield passing offense anymore. We have a short/intermediate passing game with a strong running game. That’s PERFECT for windy conditions. We have JOSH ALLEN who has already proved again and again that he can throw in the wind. Why is everyone so worried about that?

 

Play the run first, double Pickens, confuse Rudolph (who McD should own)

 

Run the ball, use Josh’s legs, emphasize the short/intermediate game, get Diggs involved early.

 

W.

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Allen has 63 carries over 7 games with Joe Brady, including 15 last week.  

 

 

Hopefully the team is reminded how they got physically man handled by the Bengals to end last season and comes out playing mean 

 

I think Dawkins even talked about how physical Pitt was in the preseason game this year (McD also mentioned it).  I know it's just preseason, but they sound like that game left an impression on them so hopefully they play with a chip and have an aggressive/physical mindset.

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[Roundybout]

30 minutes ago, H2o said:

This weather forecast makes me a bit nervous. 

Its really starting to look like a major lake effect event 

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

There seems to be a narrative building around here that Pittsbugh is a run-first team and has a better rushing attack than the Bills. Let's take a look at the numbers, shall we?

 

2023 Stats

 

STEELERS: 2010 RUSHING YARDS ON 487 ATTEMPTS

BILLS: 2212 RUSHING YARDS ON 512 ATTEMPTS

 

Your 2023 Buffalo Bills have the 5th most rushing attempts in the NFL. The Bills also rank 8th in YPC. In other words, the Bills have been a better rushing team than the Steelers this year. I know that doesn't fit historical reputations or the popular narrative, but those are the facts. 

These types of stats can be skewed when you have a running QB

[BrettFavre]

5 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Idk if new thread worthy but feel like Hines would've been huge in this brady offense, mainly in passing game. 

Ty Johnson has looked pretty good andvis way less talented

I don't think Ty is a step down from Hines at all. He ran a 4.45 40 out of Maryland and can catch and all just fine. Plus he packs significantly more punch inside than Hines.

 

Ty is the biggest injury story to me. He had the juice whenever he gets the ball for us and with this shaping up to be a snow game, we need a versatile RB2 to share the load.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, SWATeam said:

These types of stats can be skewed when you have a running QB

Who cares who gets the yards? Do people denigrate Baltimore's rushing stats because Lamar is their leading rusher? Lamar accounted for 31% of their total rushing yards. Josh is the Bills second-leading rusher and accounted for 24% of the Bills' rushing yards. And yet somehow, Josh running is proof that the Bills can't run the ball while Lamar's running is what makes him MVP. 

[Einstein]

14 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

There seems to be a narrative building around here that Pittsbugh is a run-first team and has a better rushing attack than the Bills. Let's take a look at the numbers, shall we?

 

2023 Stats

 

STEELERS: 2010 RUSHING YARDS ON 487 ATTEMPTS

BILLS: 2212 RUSHING YARDS ON 512 ATTEMPTS

 

Your 2023 Buffalo Bills have the 5th most rushing attempts in the NFL. The Bills also rank 8th in YPC. In other words, the Bills have been a better rushing team than the Steelers this year. I know that doesn't fit historical reputations or the popular narrative, but those are the facts. 

 

Just FYI, that script has seem to flip (for the Steelers) over the past three games.

 

Last week: 155 rushing yards

Week before: 202 rushing yards

Week before that: 113 rushing yards

 

They seem to have found something in their rushing game over the past three weeks that they didn’t have most of the season.

 

[PromoTheRobot]

56 minutes ago, H2o said:

This weather forecast makes me a bit nervous. 

 

I'm more worried about getting in and getting out. Last thing I need is getting stranded in my parking spot.

[Einstein]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

The forecast that I just looked at says this;

 

Lake-effect snow and intense squalls, accumulating an additional 6-10 inches; windy and colder

 

High 24, Windchill -1, 30 mph winds

 

We're 72 hours from game time

 

 

 

 

[Magox]

37 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Allen has 63 carries over 7 games with Joe Brady, including 15 last week.  

 

 

Hopefully the team is reminded how they got physically man handled by the Bengals to end last season and comes out playing mean 

For me, that’s the key to the game.   The mentality has got to be one of toughness and nastiness on both sides of the ball.  Pound the rock, and be highly efficient in the play action pass game.

 

Josh can throw 20 yarders effectively in 20-30 mph winds, Rudolph cannot and that is one of the advantages.

 

The other advantage is Allen’s ability to run it very effectively.   They should look for him to run it 10-15 this game.

 

At the end of the day the game will be won in the trenches and Allen’s unique abilities.

[Low Positive]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

Just FYI, that script has seem to flip (for the Steelers) over the past three games.

 

Last week: 155 rushing yards

Week before: 202 rushing yards

Week before that: 113 rushing yards

 

They seem to have found something in their rushing game over the past three weeks that they didn’t have most of the season.

 

It's all about matchups. That was against two pretty bad run Ds in Seattle and Cincinnati and the Ravens' second and third-stingers. And that 113 on Cincinnati was actually below the Bengals average of giving up 126.2 rushing YPG. To prove that point, before this current run back when Kenny Pickett was playing, the Steelers beat the Bengals in Cincinnati 16-10 on 11/26 in Jake Browning's first game as the starter. The Steelers had 153 yards rushing in that game. So I would argue that they didn't find anything so much as they got favorable matchups for three straight weeks to close out the season. To that point (again), Pacheco had 130 against the Bengals on New Year's Eve in by far his best performance of the year.