Baldy's breakdown of the punt return

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

He said the exact same thing I did.  "No No No No No YES YES YES YES YES"
 

 

[Beck Water]

While we're talking Baldy, a few more good breakdowns.

 

Josh's  interceptions:

 

The 2nd interception had me screaming.  Kincaid was wide open for the 1st down.

 

"Better to be lucky than good"

 

[Captain_Quint]

The guy who went down with the knee injury in the middle probably could have had him, but good for Harty to recognize that he had room to work. At the stadium, fins fans all lost it when it happened. How many times did we see it when Crossman was our ST coach, too? 

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

While we're talking Baldy, a few more good breakdowns.

 

Josh's  interceptions:

 

The 2nd interception had me screaming.  Kincaid was wide open for the 1st down.

 

"Better to be lucky than good"

 

#1 get the hell rid of this option route bs offense.

 

# 2 thats 2 huge screw ups by Davis this year alone.

 

# 3 all wr's should have seen the blitz and adjusted to short routes

 

#4 Josh should know by now Davis sucks,don't throw to him in important situations 

Edited January 8 by SoonerBillsFan

[Jukester]

4th and 2 - should've thrown to kincaid right away, but even after that he had Diggs and Kincaid in the middle of the field after he rolled out.  Granted it would have been away from his roll out but this should've been a conversion.

 

The Davis option route - agree, just get rid of the option.  Have Davis run a quick slant there on the all out blitz and it's an easy 6.  Middle was wide open

Edited January 8 by Jukester

[Let's Go Buffalo]

I was thinking the same thing when I saw this live.....I didn't see how badly they out-kicked the coverage until later, so it made more sense to me than at first.....Now, I'm really glad he decided to field it! Ha! Maybe that's why I never returned punts after high school.

[Warcodered]

 

worth it.

 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

While we're talking Baldy, a few more good breakdowns.

 

Josh's  interceptions:

 

The 2nd interception had me screaming.  Kincaid was wide open for the 1st down.

 

"Better to be lucky than good"

 

I mean there's a guy spying Kincaid the whole time, Josh throws that Miami has 6.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

How does Josh not see the Kincaid flat pattern is there?

Is this a situation he has predehe is going to try to go to Diggs???

Still not sure why he didn't decide to run for the first on 4th and 2 once he scrambled to the right.

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

How does Josh not see the Kincaid flat pattern is there?

Is this a situation he has predehe is going to try to go to Diggs???

Still not sure why he didn't decide to run for the first on 4th and 2 once he scrambled to the right.

There's a guy watching it ready to jump the throw the entire time.

[TPS]

Maybe it doesn't matter with Harty, but I enjoyed the fact that Poona Ford (I believe it was him?) blocked the punter so that there was no possible last man option to stop Harty.

[Wraith]

 

Alright, watching Baldy's replay of the first interception is really aggravating. What was Davis thinking working back to the post? It is an all out, cover zero blitz. The DB has inside leverage. Davis gets solid positioning going to outside. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

#1 get the hell rid of this option put bs offense.

 

# 2 thats 2 huge screw ups by Davis this year alone.

 

# 3 all wr's should have seen the blitz and adjusted to short routes

 

#4 Josh should know by now Davis sucks,don't throw to him in important situations 

 

#5 Josh should probably look at who he is throwing to - he might have seen that the only guy over there was in all white.  

39 minutes ago, Wraith said:

 

Alright, watching Baldy's replay of the first interception is really aggravating. What was Davis thinking working back to the post? It is an all out, cover zero blitz. The DB has inside leverage. Davis gets solid positioning going to outside. 

 

Thats fine - but the throw didn't go outside either.  

[Wraith]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

#5 Josh should probably look at who he is throwing to - he might have seen that the only guy over there was in all white.  

 

Thats fine - but the throw didn't go outside either.  

Image shows the moment Allen steps into the throw. He is looking at Davis and Apple. Red dot is where the interception happens - it was absolutely outside. Orange dot is where Davis is standing at the moment of interception. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Image shows the moment Allen steps into the throw. He is looking at Davis and Apple. Red dot is where the interception happens - it was absolutely outside. Orange dot is where Davis is standing at the moment of interception. 

 

wouldn't outside be... more towards the logo and not directly where apple was standing though?  

[Ralonzo]

If Davis turned to the outside and looked for the ball, then Apple would have been able to tackle Davis before the ball arrived which as we all know was not a penalty at that time of the game.

[MJS]

7 hours ago, Wraith said:

 

Alright, watching Baldy's replay of the first interception is really aggravating. What was Davis thinking working back to the post? It is an all out, cover zero blitz. The DB has inside leverage. Davis gets solid positioning going to outside. 

Part of the problem is Davis wasn't looking for the ball at all. He needs to get his head around right as he is breaking, but he doesn't. He takes a couple of steps before looking. The defender lets him go because he saw the pass. Allen let that ball go before Davis even made his break.

 

But Davis had a man right on him when Allen made the throw. Allen should have just thrown it out of the back of the end zone instead of throwing it to a covered man.

[peterpan]

6 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

wouldn't outside be... more towards the logo and not directly where apple was standing though?  

This what I’m saying.  Everyone is blaming Davis.  It’s gotta be on Josh.  It wasn’t thrown inside or out it was thrown right at the defender.  Just an inaccurate pass.

[MJS]

10 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

If Davis turned to the outside and looked for the ball, then Apple would have been able to tackle Davis before the ball arrived which as we all know was not a penalty at that time of the game.

I think the option was to turn and sit, or break inside. I don't think he was ever going to turn it outside.

 

If he turns and sits, the defender is right there... So, just not good all around.

1 minute ago, peterpan said:

This what I’m saying.  Everyone is blaming Davis.  It’s gotta be on Josh.  It wasn’t thrown inside or out it was thrown right at the defender.  Just an inaccurate pass.

The option was a curl route, probably. Davis turns and sits or breaks it inside. He chose inside.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I always wonder about this because you almost never see it...on those 4th down situations with a desperation heave why are DBs not just knocking the ball down to gain field position?  Seems like you always see them go for the INT?  In a league where no stone goes unturned is this not something that's taught?