Dubie54 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Reid Ferguson has advice for Nick Wright: These commentators don't know jack and I think all of this Steve K dockers pants % figures for the odds of this and that happening is just useless. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8 Posted January 8 24 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: No shame in that, I did as well. We were playing awful and Dorsey didn’t look like the answer, we were starting to see injuries, JA was completely out of sorts & the schedule remaining was pretty difficult. As an objective fan I saw it the same way. It looked daunting. It wasn’t Dorsey for me it was the injuries. I didn’t think we could overcome them. I don’t really think the Dorsey firing was much of an impact like people want to believe. But that’s a different topic. 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Wish we could revisit everyone's W/L predictions from the preseason so we can all see how useless of an exercise it is. Quote
Bills fan since 87 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: The way everything went down this year this one was by far the most satisfying Division title. Hard to beat the first one in 25 years but this one is really close. Now lets go win the whole thing Quote
folz Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, wppete said: We should’ve won the Philly game. We let them have that one Let's face it, the refs let them have that one. First half, when the Bills were rolling and Philly was struggling, the refs called 10 penalties on the Bills and only one 5-yard false start against the Eagles. And the Eagles weren't flagged again until :38 seconds left in regulation There were so many blatant Eagles penalties that they didn't call. And many of the Bills penalties were BS or ticky-tack calls. And then there was the Eagles fumble at the end of the game that they called an incomplete pass. Game would have been over right there with a Bills win if they made that one call correctly. And with all of that, the Eagles still needed to hit a miraculous 59-yard field goal to stay alive. We may not have gotten the W in the win column, but we won that game. 3 Quote
BRH Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Who is saying “trade Josh”? You don't visit the gameday threads much (which makes you better and smarter than me ), but you'll find those folks in there. Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Doc said: Beane saved the season with his trades and acquisitions. Rasul Douglas!! 2 Quote
Doc Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Rasul Douglas!! Joseph as well. 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) Every team we have lost to missed the playoffs or has had their season go up in flames. Jets, Jags, Pats, Denver, Bengals all missed the post season. Philly has gone 1 - 4 since beating us and their players are dropping like flies. Total disarray. Its really bad karma to beat the Bills. The rest of the league should probably forfeit and look out for their best interest. Edited January 8 by Jauronimo 2 1 4 1 Quote
Logic Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Three main tangible factors: Brandon Beane's mid-season defensive acquisitions. I'm not sure the Bills would've won some of the games they did without Rasul Douglas and, to a lesser but still appreciable extent, Linval Joseph. Sean McDermott's defensive about-face after the bye. Coach said that he and his staff took a long, hard look at the defense during the bye week and did a lot of tinkering, and boy, did it show. Ever since the bye week, the Bills defense has been lights out. They held the Cowboys, Dolphins, and Chiefs each under 20 points. The last few games, they're giving up something like 16.5 points per game. An incredible turnaround, especially given the injuries and mid-season replacements. Joe Brady. No, it has not been perfect. No, I'm not sold that he's the long term answer at OC. Still, his insertion as playcaller came at just the right moment to save the season, IMO. He focused on the run game when he needed to, oversaw an offense that turned the ball over less, and injected some spark and life and fun into this offense. And one main intangible factor: Resilience. Call it perseverance, guts, fortitude, toughness...call it whatever you want. Even with all of the above factors...for this team to come together the way they did, shut out the haters and national perspective on them, overcome the turmoil around the McDermott article, and take care of business the way they did is extremely impressive. "Mental toughness" gets used so much that it can sometimes be eyeroll-inducing. But in this case, it's absolutely an accurate term. Kudos to these players and coaches. To win the AFC East and secure the 2-seed after everything they went through this year is massively impressive, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. 3 Quote
PBF81 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Rasul Douglas!! THANK YOU!! without his pick-6 and Harty's PR/TD, we'd be the same .500 at 3-3 and 2-4 in the division. Meanwhile, Diggs has been at half his prior production, all but literally, with only one TD, Allen's passing numbers are down, or PPG are down by 1.2, and Cook's YPC average is 3.6 in six games apart from one Dallas game as an extreme statistical outlier with his next two best having been earlier this season, and with not one other even slightly impressive rushing performance in those games. It's that a good thing. Asking rhetorically. 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Buffalo has the longest active win streak in the league right now. Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: THANK YOU!! without his pick-6 and Harty's PR/TD, we'd be the same .500 at 3-3 and 2-4 in the division. Meanwhile, Diggs has been at half his prior production, all but literally, with only one TD, Allen's passing numbers are down, or PPG are down by 1.2, and Cook's YPC average is 3.6 in six games apart from one Dallas game as an extreme statistical outlier with his next two best having been earlier this season, and with not one other even slightly impressive rushing performance in those games. It's that a good thing. Asking rhetorically. Re Diggs, he had two steps on his defender yesterday and ALLEN MISSED HIM Badly or that would have been an ESPN highlight! 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It wasn’t Dorsey for me it was the injuries. I didn’t think we could overcome them. I don’t really think the Dorsey firing was much of an impact like people want to believe. But that’s a different topic. I think it did have a positive impact, and maybe more strongly than people think. Not because of profound changes in the scheme or personnel usage or anything like that, though I'm not sure Dorsey could or would have put that Dallas offensive game plan together and that was f*'ing brilliant (just in terms of Dallas DC sitting there going "Bills power run game mowing us down I did NOT have that on my bingo card". I think Dorsey had a particular way of coaching and interacting with Josh based on his "38-2" college career, and I don't think it was working, or if it was working, it was working negatively. I think it wound up with a "death spiral" of negativity. I mean, c'mon, we all saw it in the aftermath of Miami. I think Joe Brady has a different way of interacting with Josh and it's important when things go badly and need to get turned around. Edited January 8 by Beck Water Quote
peterpan Posted January 8 Posted January 8 The best game over that stretch was the Eagles game too Quote
Dr Krentist Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Freak-O said: So with Dorsey we were 5-5 and without him 6-1 (with more injuries and facing Miami, KC, Philly and Dallas). Even though it hasn’t always looked pretty with Brady I’d say firing Dorsey was the right thing to do. It was refreshing to see they didn't try to run it from shotgun on 4th and 1 last night. 1 2 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted January 8 Posted January 8 17 minutes ago, BRH said: You don't visit the gameday threads much (which makes you better and smarter than me ), but you'll find those folks in there. I do visit them and I was super critical of Allen last night for the first few quarters because he was playing like a meathead. But trade him? My goodness. I haven't seen that. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I think it did have a positive impact, and maybe more strongly than people think. Not because of profound changes in the scheme or personnel usage or anything like that, though I'm not sure Dorsey could or would have put that Dallas offensive game plan together and that was f*'ing brilliant (just in terms of Dallas DC sitting there going "Bills power run game mowing us down I did NOT have that on my bingo card". I think Dorsey had a particular way of coaching and interacting with Josh based on his "38-2" college career, and I don't think it was working, or if it was working, it was working negatively. I think it wound up with a "death spiral" of negativity. I mean, c'mon, we all saw it in the aftermath of Miami. I think Joe Brady has a different way of interacting with Josh and it's important when things go badly and need to get turned around. Brady has more energy and McDermott did mention Brady’s energy. The offense goes as Josh goes. I don’t think it matters too much at this point who’s calling it. Quote
PBF81 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Re Diggs, he had two steps on his defender yesterday and ALLEN MISSED HIM Badly or that would have been an ESPN highlight! Just saying. Poor offense has not improved from a scoring perspective nor had Allen's passing games improved. Neither has or running game other than we're logging more carries. Our YPC is down significantly. I'm trying to figure out out, but the best that I can come to with is that Allen's become more of a game manager than a big-time-arm QB. Quote
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