gonzo1105 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I actually think the opposite. I think if Miami scored to make it 21-20 they were going to go for two, the win, and the Title 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Gman10 said: The Dolphin's have beaten one team all year with a winning record... I know. That’s my point. Quote
4merper4mer Posted January 8 Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Who cares... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle Perhaps you’re not up to date on the new rules. Quote
ganesh Posted January 8 Posted January 8 6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t think that Shanahan offensive scheme is fooling the better teams and it requires a lot of absurdly fast guys on offense. They’re headed for a rebuild in a couple years imo unless they can come up with elite defensive play. Man,,,,But that speed was amazing....I wish we could have a few players with that speed...the only one that was any close to it was McKenzie. I think Cook has that speed but ends up dancing too much Quote
msw2112 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 10 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Who cares... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle This reminds me of what my mom used to say: "If the Queen had balls, she'd be the King!" And my mom is a fairly well-mannered person, so this is a bit out of character for her. As to the original question, if I was the Dolphins in that situation, I would take a knee and the tie. Two reasons: 1) A FG could be blocked and returned for a score. It's unlikely and rare, but stuff like that has happened in the history of football; 2) would you rather face Mason Rudolph/Kenny Pickett/Mitchell Trubisky in the playoffs or Josh Allen? Quote
ALLEN1QB Posted January 8 Posted January 8 12 hours ago, The Red King said: Didn't want to say anything until the game was in the bag, but I had a thought. Let's say Miami tied it and it went into OT. Time's running out, Miami has the ball and is in a position for a game-winning field goal. Now...if they kick it, they get the division and the #2 seed, but have to play Buffalo in the Wild Card game. What if Miami instead takes a knee? They still win the division and the #2 seed...but they also get to avoid the Bills and instead host the Steelers. If Buffalo wins their Wild Card game, and the 'Phins beat the Steelers, then Buffalo goes to Baltimore. In other words, by going for a tie, Miami would lose nothing at all. They would simply swap in the Steelers and put themselves in the position of not having to face the Bills until the Championship Game. So, with all that in mind, do you think Miami would have taken the tie in OT instead of the win if possible? I think we are giving their coach too much credit he would not think that far ahead Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 8 Posted January 8 13 hours ago, The Red King said: Didn't want to say anything until the game was in the bag, but I had a thought. Let's say Miami tied it and it went into OT. Time's running out, Miami has the ball and is in a position for a game-winning field goal. Now...if they kick it, they get the division and the #2 seed, but have to play Buffalo in the Wild Card game. What if Miami instead takes a knee? They still win the division and the #2 seed...but they also get to avoid the Bills and instead host the Steelers. If Buffalo wins their Wild Card game, and the 'Phins beat the Steelers, then Buffalo goes to Baltimore. In other words, by going for a tie, Miami would lose nothing at all. They would simply swap in the Steelers and put themselves in the position of not having to face the Bills until the Championship Game. So, with all that in mind, do you think Miami would have taken the tie in OT instead of the win if possible? If this game went to OT then Dolphins would try to win it, not many teams are tying to tie games 6 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I actually think the opposite. I think if Miami scored to make it 21-20 they were going to go for two, the win, and the Title Knowing McDaniels yes I would agree Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 8 Posted January 8 14 hours ago, The Red King said: Didn't want to say anything until the game was in the bag, but I had a thought. Let's say Miami tied it and it went into OT. Time's running out, Miami has the ball and is in a position for a game-winning field goal. Now...if they kick it, they get the division and the #2 seed, but have to play Buffalo in the Wild Card game. What if Miami instead takes a knee? They still win the division and the #2 seed...but they also get to avoid the Bills and instead host the Steelers. If Buffalo wins their Wild Card game, and the 'Phins beat the Steelers, then Buffalo goes to Baltimore. In other words, by going for a tie, Miami would lose nothing at all. They would simply swap in the Steelers and put themselves in the position of not having to face the Bills until the Championship Game. So, with all that in mind, do you think Miami would have taken the tie in OT instead of the win if possible? They would have been crazy not to try that if they had a chance. Thankfully, we did not give them the option. Quote
billsfan_34 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 14 hours ago, FireChans said: No. Dolphins are going nowhere until they beat some good teams, and they know it. They needed the win tonight, psychologically. They are cooked now. They wont win in KC…it is supposed to be extremely cold and the crowd will also play a factor. Quote
BananaB Posted January 8 Posted January 8 14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Who cares... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle Not these days 2 Quote
Prospector Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Not these days I was going to reply with a funny comment (to me, anyways), but I didn't know of a way to phrase it without getting in trouble. The times we live in, lol Quote
zow2 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 The thing is, everyone wanted to host the Steelers. KC fans were so mad last night that Miami choked, because the Chiefs fans wanted Pittsburgh too. I’m sure Miami did. I hope it’s not a case of be careful what you wish for! Quote
The Red King Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, zow2 said: The thing is, everyone wanted to host the Steelers. KC fans were so mad last night that Miami choked, because the Chiefs fans wanted Pittsburgh too. I’m sure Miami did. I hope it’s not a case of be careful what you wish for! Too true, let me be clear I'm not overlooking the Steelers. The key for a lot of these teams though is, did you want Pitt, or did you want [x]? I dunno though, if I'm KC I'm not sure I'd want Pitt over Miami. The Dolphins are beat up and reeling, their morale is crushed. The idle musings over my OP though came from, if you're the 'Phins which is the best option. Hosting the Bills again for Round 2, hosting Pitt or going to KC? Out of the three, knowing Buffalo is in anyway (different story if it was a chance to bounce us) and the opportunity presents, do you play for that tie? I'm honestly not sure, and to be honest, I'm more in the camp of "no", or even "they'd go for two", but I was just curious what people thought. Edited January 8 by The Red King Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 8 Posted January 8 As others have pointed out I don't think there was any world in which that game was going to OT. But let's say it had and your scenario played itself out. I think if they were like, on their own 45 yard line, they might realistically just run out the clock with the matchup in mind. If they were in actual FG range like on the Bills 35 they would have kicked to win it. Within the culture of the NFL you can't be seen to be not trying to win a game. It's bad for the product and puts a target on your back from the team you're slighting, not just for your upcoming game but for years to come. Just bad form and I think McDaniel, for all his goofiness, is a guy who would get that. Quote
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