The Bills final possession

[Peace Frog]

On the Josh fumble, O'Cyrus was left to block Wilkins by himself and whiffed on the block. Mitch Morse had nobody in front of him to block and should've help Torrence out.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Simon said:

If they call that series at that point with that much fear in the playoffs, it will bite them on the bippy.

They have got to run their offense there and play for points, not start clock-watching with 6+ minutes left.

McDermott, Brady and Allen should be prepared with a plan to be aggressive with a one score lead in the 4th qrtr or I think they'll regret it.

 

Agree. I liked the go for it calls. But the playcalling from Brady was too conservative. You attempt your safe pass plays on 1st or 2nd down and run on 3rd. Not the other way round. Teams always sell out to play the run on 1st down and Miami was no different. That is your best down to complete a pass.

[Danger Mouse]

1 hour ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

The tush push is pretty much always the right call unless your QB is tiny.  Run it every time until the league bans it.

 

Brady stealing this play has got us to the playoffs. It's such a no brainer once its out there. Dorsey's shotgun draws were insufferable.

[davefan66]

3 minutes ago, Bill Grundy said:

 

Brady stealing this play has got us to the playoffs. It's such a no brainer once its out there. Dorsey's shotgun draws were insufferable.

I also like the reduction in number of plays trying to draw teams Offside with Josh barking at the LOS.  Rather see them tush push the bobsled then watch that worn out play.

[mannc]

4 hours ago, Simon said:

If they call that series at that point with that much fear in the playoffs, it will bite them on the bippy.

They have got to run their offense there and play for points, not start clock-watching with 6+ minutes left.

McDermott, Brady and Allen should be prepared with a plan to be aggressive with a one score lead in the 4th qrtr or I think they'll regret it.

That series was permeated by by the odor of McDermott’s fear…

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, Peace Frog said:

On the Josh fumble, O'Cyrus was left to block Wilkins by himself and whiffed on the block. Mitch Morse had nobody in front of him to block and should've help Torrence out.

This. Noticed a couple of times where Morse went to his left to help McGovern and Torrence was getting beat, need to slide protection towards the rookie when he has a superior defender in front of him than the one McGovern has.

[Xwnyer]

They became predictable running on first down on five consecutive attempts.  Fins started run blitzing and a good play action would have made big plays.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, davefan66 said:

I also like the reduction in number of plays trying to draw teams Offside with Josh barking at the LOS.  Rather see them tush push the bobsled then watch that worn out play.

 

I want to see Josh bark trying to get D Offside, then snapping the ball, trying to catch opposing team sleeping, thinking no play, its an attempt to draw D Offside.  We can use that to our advantage

Edited January 8 by Pete

[KellyToTasker]

5 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I agree with clock watching against Miami. They are exactly the type of offense that can score easily in a flash. I personally would have kicked the long field goal to try to take a 10 point lead but I had no issue with how we ran that drive up to that point

No way do you attempt a 55 yard field goal there. Don’t take the ball away from the best player on the field and give it to a kicker, especially when it’s 4th and less than 1 (I do like Bass, but no, you don’t do that). 

[Gman10]

If Allen threw an interception on that play, Im curious if there would be a thread saying he should have ran the ball instead and throwing in a situation like that is idiotic lol

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

No way do you attempt a 55 yard field goal there. Don’t take the ball away from the best player on the field and give it to a kicker, especially when it’s 4th and less than 1 (I do like Bass, but no, you don’t do that). 

 

Tyler Bass is hurt. I promise you all. We will find out after the season there has been something lingering with Bass. They have been way more conservative with him all year on longer kicks. There is a reason. 

 

I agree with you. You go for it on 4th down there. 

[GaryPinC]

5 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I thought they were fortunate to even get it to that point and would have had a better chance to close out by continuing to do what they'd been doing successfully all night.

I totally agree with you in principle,  but have to support McDermott's decision. 

 

I'm okay with being so conservative this year because Josh has reverted to forcing stupid situations and turnovers too much.  That last pass of the first half was even more painful then his turnovers and inexcusable for a veteran QB.

[BarleyNY]

I was pleasantly surprised to see McDermott go for it twice on fourth and short on that last drive. It shows real growth. 

[boyst]

6 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

On another note, our running game with the backs was crap. What happened to the o-line tonight? 

The dolphins filled gaps quickly, have a very fast defense in total, our OL struggled (some of the worst games we have seen for the year), and most importantly we couldn't get outside and kept trying to do so. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

The dolphins filled gaps quickly, have a very fast defense in total, our OL struggled (some of the worst games we have seen for the year), and most importantly we couldn't get outside and kept trying to do so. 

 

Yea our run game with Cook kind of needs the stretch plays to create the cut back lanes as well. It is designed so that every run looks like it could be a perimeter run at the exchange but then sometimes he attacks upfield. The problem last night was the Dolphins speed getting outside meant our pulling linemen never had time to get to their landmarks and as such we probably had more negative runs than any other game this year. And it meant they could continue to play tight fronts inside because they weren't as worried as most teams about being gashed on the edge. I'd have gone to more playoff Lenny and a cloud of dust sooner. 

[BuffaloRebound]

Bills had Miami’s D on the ropes.  They had no answer for our passing game at the end.  Running it on every down was helping the Dolphins out, but I can’t complain too much since we were a foot away from ending the game on offense.  

[HOUSE]

6 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I was screaming at my TV to not run the last tush push play they tried. It was a full yard. And Miami was playing it well at that point. I actually would have been fine with them attempting the Fournette wild cat play they showed prior to the timeout. 

You were screaming at the actual TV?

[ILBillsfan]

That was the first time this season that they failed to convert w needing one yard for a first down all year....... i am fine with them doing it everytime........

[boyst]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea our run game with Cook kind of needs the stretch plays to create the cut back lanes as well. It is designed so that every run looks like it could be a perimeter run at the exchange but then sometimes he attacks upfield. The problem last night was the Dolphins speed getting outside meant our pulling linemen never had time to get to their landmarks and as such we probably had more negative runs than any other game this year. And it meant they could continue to play tight fronts inside because they weren't as worried as most teams about being gashed on the edge. I'd have gone to more playoff Lenny and a cloud of dust sooner. 

this or a play i had seen earlier in the year, i think from Miami.

 

The fake handoff to one side and turn the other way to an upfield screen. Miami ran a variation of it last night and it was great. They faked the handoff to Achane to the left and tua turns around to throw it 3-4 yards on the right with 2 or 3 lineman downfield on the screen.

 

our origination has been lacking since Daboll.

[Livinginthepast]

I have no problem going for it on the 4th down and no problem with the sneak. I also think that Josh may have got the first down on that play and for the millionth time I am wondering aloud why the NFL: 

 

a) Has no chip in the ball to do an accurate spot.

or

b)  a guaranteed fully overhead camera shot to show a better view. Sometimes this is available, other times it isnt. 

 

For a Billion $ league to continue to use 1950's guessing instead of accurate updated technology for these types of plays, when other sports like tennis have the tech is just idiotic.