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I hadn't thought about it, but the Panthers job is about as undesirable of an NFL head coaching gig as there's ever been in the league.

 

- #1 overall pick QB who is way undersized and utterly terrible as a rookie.

- No first round pick this year, plus other pick traded away.

- Not much talent anywhere on the roster. No FAs are coming there.

- The last head coach was fired a few games into his tenure.

 

Surely somebody will take it, but Damn.

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26 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

My early predictions for coaching hires. This changes a bit if any playoff teams fire coaches.
 

Patriots - Mike Vrabel (easy)


Seattle - Dan Quinn (easier)


Washington - Harbaugh (near his bro in opposite conference with owners who have a lot of money and get to mold the new franchise QB, Drake Maye)


Chargers - Ben Johnson (they miss out on Harbaugh but get the next best offensive coach for Herbert)


Raiders - Antonio Pierce (easy)


Falcons - Bill Belichick (seems like the guy Blank would want)


Titans - Bobby Slowik (stealing a rival OC to help mold Levis)


Panthers - Ejiro Evero (who else besides Eric Bienemy are going to want this job)

Slowik and Evero would be unwise to take those jobs. Both are lose/lose situations. 

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5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

The Bears can move down a very small number of spots and pick up an absolute haul.  If they can’t make it work with Fields they will have mega ammo to try again in 2025.  No way should they stay at 1 and pick anything other than QB though….I agree about that.

I also agree that the #1 pick should be used on a QB. Else, just in the top 10, there are teams who need a QB and will give a king's ransom for the #1 pick - Commanders, Patriots, Giants, Falcons. 

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31 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

My early predictions for coaching hires. This changes a bit if any playoff teams fire coaches.
 

Patriots - Mike Vrabel (easy)


Seattle - Dan Quinn (easier)


Washington - Harbaugh (near his bro in opposite conference with owners who have a lot of money and get to mold the new franchise QB, Drake Maye)


Chargers - Ben Johnson (they miss out on Harbaugh but get the next best offensive coach for Herbert)


Raiders - Antonio Pierce (easy)


Falcons - Bill Belichick (seems like the guy Blank would want)


Titans - Bobby Slowik (stealing a rival OC to help mold Levis)


Panthers - Ejiro Evero (who else besides Eric Bienemy are going to want this job)

Gotta think Pete Carrol going to end up someplace.

Has LA history with USC

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21 minutes ago, Olliemets said:

Gotta think Pete Carrol going to end up someplace.

Has LA history with USC

Ya probably not the chargers first choice since he’s about to be 73 but definitely an option

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Shefty today was saying his sources around the league are saying there may just be a mystery opening come next week if a team doesn’t make it to next weekend in the playoffs.

People are automatically thinking it’s Dallas and McCarthy but word is it might be the Eagles. 

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7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Shefty today was saying his sources around the league are saying there may just be a mystery opening come next week if a team doesn’t make it to next weekend in the playoffs.

People are automatically thinking it’s Dallas and McCarthy but word is it might be the Eagles. 

Why not both.

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1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

My early predictions for coaching hires. This changes a bit if any playoff teams fire coaches.
 

Patriots - Mike Vrabel (easy)


Seattle - Dan Quinn (easier)


Washington - Harbaugh (near his bro in opposite conference with owners who have a lot of money and get to mold the new franchise QB, Drake Maye)


Chargers - Ben Johnson (they miss out on Harbaugh but get the next best offensive coach for Herbert)


Raiders - Antonio Pierce (easy)


Falcons - Bill Belichick (seems like the guy Blank would want)


Titans - Bobby Slowik (stealing a rival OC to help mold Levis)


Panthers - Ejiro Evero (who else besides Eric Bienemy are going to want this job)

 

For extra credit which coordinators and assistant coaches are kept and where do the coaches dumped go.

 

I think Eric Bienemy stays in Washington no matter which head coach they choose.

Players seem to like him.

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20 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Shefty today was saying his sources around the league are saying there may just be a mystery opening come next week if a team doesn’t make it to next weekend in the playoffs.

People are automatically thinking it’s Dallas and McCarthy but word is it might be the Eagles. 

 

Some may be waiting for coaches from playoff teams to become available,

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/heres-how-long-it-might-take-for-the-seahawks-to-replace-pete-carroll/#:~:text=That last sentence means college,round%2C or Jan. 22.

  • The league has gotten increasingly prickly the past few years about assistants employed by teams that are still in the playoffs being distracted by interviews to become head coaches elsewhere.

  • So, this year the NFL further adjusted the rules for the head-coach-hiring process.

  • As part of the most recent changes approved in October, and as stated on the league’s website, teams are prohibited “from conducting in-person Head Coach interviews with candidates who are employed by other NFL clubs until after the conclusion of all Divisional Playoff games. Before the conclusion of Divisional Playoff games, hiring clubs are permitted to conduct in-person Head Coach interviews with candidates who are employed by the hiring club or who are not employed in the NFL.”

    • That last sentence means college coaches or anyone not on a current NFL staff can be interviewed anytime.
  • But if a candidate is still with an NFL team, nothing in person can happen until the week after the divisional round, or Jan. 22.
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3 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

My early predictions for coaching hires. This changes a bit if any playoff teams fire coaches.
 

Patriots - Mike Vrabel (easy)


Seattle - Dan Quinn (easier)


Washington - Harbaugh (near his bro in opposite conference with owners who have a lot of money and get to mold the new franchise QB, Drake Maye)


Chargers - Ben Johnson (they miss out on Harbaugh but get the next best offensive coach for Herbert)


Raiders - Antonio Pierce (easy)


Falcons - Bill Belichick (seems like the guy Blank would want)


Titans - Bobby Slowik (stealing a rival OC to help mold Levis)


Panthers - Ejiro Evero (who else besides Eric Bienemy are going to want this job)

Caroll will take up one of these jobs, especially if the Chargers are willing to hire him

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3 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Some may be waiting for coaches from playoff teams to become available,

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/heres-how-long-it-might-take-for-the-seahawks-to-replace-pete-carroll/#:~:text=That last sentence means college,round%2C or Jan. 22.

  • The league has gotten increasingly prickly the past few years about assistants employed by teams that are still in the playoffs being distracted by interviews to become head coaches elsewhere.

  • So, this year the NFL further adjusted the rules for the head-coach-hiring process.

  • As part of the most recent changes approved in October, and as stated on the league’s website, teams are prohibited “from conducting in-person Head Coach interviews with candidates who are employed by other NFL clubs until after the conclusion of all Divisional Playoff games. Before the conclusion of Divisional Playoff games, hiring clubs are permitted to conduct in-person Head Coach interviews with candidates who are employed by the hiring club or who are not employed in the NFL.”

    • That last sentence means college coaches or anyone not on a current NFL staff can be interviewed anytime.
  • But if a candidate is still with an NFL team, nothing in person can happen until the week after the divisional round, or Jan. 22.

Why don’t they just make a rule that no hiring or interviewing can be done until after the Super Bowl is over?

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11 minutes ago, Zag20 said:

Why don’t they just make a rule that no hiring or interviewing can be done until after the Super Bowl is over?

 

t impacts colleges including recruiting, scouting and the whole NFL schedule.  Pluses and minuses.  It is in thread,

Posted
4 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Shefty today was saying his sources around the league are saying there may just be a mystery opening come next week if a team doesn’t make it to next weekend in the playoffs.

People are automatically thinking it’s Dallas and McCarthy but word is it might be the Eagles. 

 

Yea I have heard that Siriani is on a sticky wicket if this weekend goes badly.

31 minutes ago, Zag20 said:

Why don’t they just make a rule that no hiring or interviewing can be done until after the Super Bowl is over?

 

We have done this to death.... it is because of the rest of the schedule. The Superbowl is only 4 weeks before Free Agency. That isn't enough time to shortlist, interview, 2nd interview, hire a coach. Then hire a staff. Then do all the self scouting and evaluation. Then work out who you might want to target in FA. You'd have to push FA and the Draft back and other than going into the one month off a year that coaches and personnel guys have mid June to July there is no space. 

 

The NFL has created a year round calendar. And it now means there is minimal flex to push stuff.

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53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I saw a rumor that there’s a team in the playoffs secretly ready to go after Belichick. I’m 99% sure it’s the Bills. 

 

Zero percent chance McD is gone

 

Less than zero percent chance The Hoodie ends up in Buffalo

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9 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

IMO and based on what I’ve read in other places MHJ doesn’t always track the ball as well as he should and although that didn’t burn him in college, it may in the NFL.  Again, not in any way calling him a bad player or bust, just likely to not live up to his ultra high pick.

 

Im not sure I agree about kicking Fields to the curb.  It feels abrupt.  The Bears can move down a very small number of spots and pick up an absolute haul.  If they can’t make it work with Fields they will have mega ammo to try again in 2025.  No way should they stay at 1 and pick anything other than QB though….I agree about that.

 

I dunno if it is abrupt. I think he needed to show more growth this year as a passer. I think Fields can be a serviceable starter because he will find ways to move the chains but at this point I think his chance to really grow into a true franchise guy is very small. I wouldn't be saying the Bears have to pick a QB if they were selecting 20th in the draft. But they are 3 years in with a guy who still struggles to diagnose defenses and process from the pocket and they are sitting here with the 1st overall pick and another top 10 pick in a draft with some intriguing Quarterback prospects. I'd stay at #1 and as long as I have met the kid and got good reports about him and am comfortable with the character I'd select Caleb Williams. 

 

On MHJ I might be slightly where you are in that I don't know I share the "he is the best wide receiver prospect ever" type hype. He is comparable with the best guys I have evaluated, the likes of Ja'Marr Chase, CeeDee and Jerry Jeudy (appreciate Jeudy hasn't shown it in the same way at the NFL level but he was a hell of a prospect) but he isn't light years ahead of those guys. However, I do think he is the best receiver in this class. He isn't a perfect prospect. I don't think he is as dominant against man coverage as I'd want to see for a sure fire top 5 pick but you can't guard him in zone. He is too smooth, too good in his release and too precise in his route running. He will find the spot in your zone and exploit it. 

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