ChiGoose Posted January 11 Posted January 11 40 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: If the Bears aren't totally sold on Fields, they should draft a QB with the top pick. Doubling down is better than hitching the entire wagon to Fields and missing on a rare chance of drafting #1 The Bears completely blew it by keeping Eberfluss. They should have fired the coaches to give them maximum flexibility to either keep Fields or draft a new QB considering how poorly the offense has been handled. 3 2 Quote
DCOrange Posted January 11 Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Yep, I missed Gannon, but Steichen has always been offense. I thought Harbaugh was Special Teams, but since he was a defensive assistant at times and in his final year before getting the Ravens job, I'll concede that one too. So 2/3. Oh that’s my bad. Steichen has worked both sides but he did move over to offense awhile ago. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 11 Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The Bears completely blew it by keeping Eberfluss. They should have fired the coaches to give them maximum flexibility to either keep Fields or draft a new QB considering how poorly the offense has been handled. Classic case of "staying the course" and firing the guy halfway through the next season 2 Quote
ChiGoose Posted January 11 Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Classic case of "staying the course" and firing the guy halfway through the next season It’s the exact same mistake they made with Nagy. 2 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 11 Posted January 11 58 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: If the Bears aren't totally sold on Fields, they should draft a QB with the top pick. Doubling down is better than hitching the entire wagon to Fields and missing on a rare chance of drafting #1 I get it. I just think they have a rare opportunity to accumulate a ton of young talent. Only one QB taken #1 or #2 overall in the last decade has definitively proven to be worth it (although CJ Stroud is likely going to be the second). For my money the top 4 QBs this year - Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Prescott - were drafted later than that. So do you throw away the opportunity to get an almost for sure game changing #1 WR plus a boatload of picks, for a QB that is statistically unlikely to be worth it? If you hit on the QB it's of course worth it in the end. But it's a gamble. And it's not like they're trotting EJ Manuel out there next year. Fields could be as good as Hurts IMO. 1 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I get it. I just think they have a rare opportunity to accumulate a ton of young talent. Only one QB taken #1 or #2 overall in the last decade has definitively proven to be worth it (although CJ Stroud is likely going to be the second). For my money the top 4 QBs this year - Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Prescott - were drafted later than that. So do you throw away the opportunity to get an almost for sure game changing #1 WR plus a boatload of picks, for a QB that is statistically unlikely to be worth it? If you hit on the QB it's of course worth it in the end. But it's a gamble. And it's not like they're trotting EJ Manuel out there next year. Fields could be as good as Hurts IMO. Goff and Mayfield are in the playoffs. the Bears started 0-4. only 3 games were true loses. Early gb, at kc, at chargers. they went 7-7 after first 3 games In 3 of those loses loses ( in 7-7 stretch) they had 9+ pt 4th quarter leads tied in 4th with another. Other 3 were one score down in the 4th confidence is a dangerous thing in the nfl. They held onto one of those 3 blown 4th quarter games then they are going into the packers game tied at 8-8 and likely a winner gets the WC spot game. 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted January 11 Posted January 11 41 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I get it. I just think they have a rare opportunity to accumulate a ton of young talent. Only one QB taken #1 or #2 overall in the last decade has definitively proven to be worth it (although CJ Stroud is likely going to be the second). For my money the top 4 QBs this year - Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Prescott - were drafted later than that. So do you throw away the opportunity to get an almost for sure game changing #1 WR plus a boatload of picks, for a QB that is statistically unlikely to be worth it? If you hit on the QB it's of course worth it in the end. But it's a gamble. And it's not like they're trotting EJ Manuel out there next year. Fields could be as good as Hurts IMO. Those are good points. To invest the #1 in a QB, they have to be absolutely convinced that he is worth it (and do the e v a l like the org did for Trubisky). 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: The Bears completely blew it by keeping Eberfluss. They should have fired the coaches to give them maximum flexibility to either keep Fields or draft a new QB considering how poorly the offense has been handled. The available slate of HC candidates and the demand could have influenced their decision to keep Eberflus. They must have thought "omg we could end up with bottom of the barrel choices and end up in a worse situation out of desperation" 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 11 Posted January 11 49 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I get it. I just think they have a rare opportunity to accumulate a ton of young talent. Only one QB taken #1 or #2 overall in the last decade has definitively proven to be worth it (although CJ Stroud is likely going to be the second). For my money the top 4 QBs this year - Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Prescott - were drafted later than that. So do you throw away the opportunity to get an almost for sure game changing #1 WR plus a boatload of picks, for a QB that is statistically unlikely to be worth it? If you hit on the QB it's of course worth it in the end. But it's a gamble. And it's not like they're trotting EJ Manuel out there next year. Fields could be as good as Hurts IMO. Hurts isn’t that good and this is year 4 for Fields. that organization is in drought era Bills doomed land. Hanging onto a lame duck defensive HC so they can just fire him next season. Every QB in the playoffs currently has proven they can play great in spots. Fields, who was just given another good WR weapon this past offseason, saw his passing yardage go from 150 to 197 per game. Yuck. If they try to build around Fields now, they will end up winning 7 games next year, firing Eberflus, and then have an ugly QB room to attract HC candidates, who won’t want anything to do with them. They have the #1 pick. They should have canned everyone and waved it around to actually get some good coaches in there. If the new coach believes in Fields, cool. If they want Caleb or to trade down, cool. Half measures in the NFL don’t work. The Bears have been one of the worst teams in football because of it. Keeping Nagy to waste a pivotal year of Fields’ development set them up to do it all again this year and continue their cycle of pitiful, miserable football. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 11 Posted January 11 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: Five years ago I would have said take a QB no matter what. But I've changed my tune on this. I think QBs like Hurts and Tua and Purdy have shown that having a good QB plus elite weapons is maybe the best path to a Super Bowl. Especially if the QB is mobile which naturally increases the margin for error. You need a great defense too, and the Bears are close. They could trade down for a boatload of picks, draft MHJ (giving them arguably two #1 WRs with DJ Moore already there), build up the OL and defense, and head into 2024 ready to make waves in a relatively average division. I sincerely think they could compete for a Super Bowl next year if they have a great draft, and they'll likely still have several high picks in the 2025 draft from the trade down. Not an easy decision but I'd ride with Fields and try to build the most elite possible team around him. Take the Quarterback. I think they were right to give Fields another run last year. But there is no progress as a passer from the pocket. Move him (you will get a mid round pick), draft Williams (as long as you are satisfied with the person). 3 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 12 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Salah went 7-10 without a functioning QB. If the Jets' chef just put more saltpetre in the cooking, maybe young Mr. Wilson could concentrate on beating Jaguars instead of chasing cougars. 1 Quote
CNYfan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 The Bears improved significantly over the course of the season and their defense was rather good. Defense is Eberfluss' concentration. I do not wholly agree that it was a mistake to keep him. The Bears have a real chance to soar with that defense and the cornucopia of draft picks coming up this year and next. The problem I have with Caleb, besides what the "person" might be, is that he didn't win. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Carroll, Saban, Belichick all gone within 24 hours. It really is the end of an era. 2 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Wow is this an insane coaching cycle! What a time to be looking though Quote
stuvian Posted January 11 Posted January 11 hopefully we can still watch Steve Belichick's mullet and runny nose 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 11 Posted January 11 30 minutes ago, mannc said: So Saleh is going to survive? Is that certain now? Yes I believe they confirmed it before week 18. Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 11 Posted January 11 42 minutes ago, mannc said: So Saleh is going to survive? Is that certain now? He got a vote of confidence late in the season, honestly as a Bills fan I hope they keep him. 1 Quote
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