Bangarang Posted January 8 Posted January 8 39 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: I feel like after the way the Pats lost today, there isn’t a doubt in Krafts mind that he needs to move on from Bill. And he’s right. Jerod Mayo is the reported front runner to replace BB. 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 8 Posted January 8 40 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: I feel like after the way the Pats lost today, there isn’t a doubt in Krafts mind that he needs to move on from Bill. And he’s right. I know a team where he will be welcomed! If only I owned it. 1 Quote
Herc11 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, scuba guy said: No offense but he mite have a heart attack before that. He needs to lose weight and get eating right for heath and welfare Say that again, but this time with some nuggies 7 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 8 Posted January 8 58 minutes ago, djp14150 said: Head coach changes Panthers fired Reich Chargers fired Staley Belicheat leaving Pats ??? Commanders firing Rivera ?? Another name to watch: Mike Vrabel. I feel like he should be back, ownership has said they want him back, but wouldn't shock me if he left for another opportunity. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted January 8 Posted January 8 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: All ready open: Panthers Chargers Raiders All but certain to make a Black Monday move: Patriots Commanders Other spots to watch: Falcons (Arthur Smith) Seahawks (Pete Carroll - retirement) That would be seven openings again. The league can't sustain this level of coaching turnover. The talent pipeline isn't capable of re-stocking at this speed. I mean it doesn't really sustain it there's terrible teams every year. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted January 8 Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, BBFL said: Agreed. Think that 7–10 buys him one more year. For the sake of that franchise I hope if he is retained he takes a long hard look at getting a replacement if the Fields experiment falters again. Do you feel they go QB or ride the pine another year? you have to reset the clock on the qb cap hit while you have the top pick the only way you can pass on a qb is if you are 100% on fields. Otherwise deal him and avoid purgatory 2 1 Quote
BBFL Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Another name to watch: Mike Vrabel. I feel like he should be back, ownership has said they want him back, but wouldn't shock me if he left for another opportunity. He should. Guy has kept them a competitive team and they’re only a year removed from the #1 seed. QB play is the be all-end all and he’s at least trying to get a replacement for Tannehill and looks to be willing to move on from the project if it isn’t up to par. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 8 Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, BBFL said: Agreed. Think that 7–10 buys him one more year. For the sake of that franchise I hope if he is retained he takes a long hard look at getting a replacement if the Fields experiment falters again. Do you feel they go QB or ride the pine another year? Personally I'd have done what they did ladt year, traded out, stocked picks... because there were enough flashes from Fields as a playmaker. He makes out of structure plays at times that probably only Allen, Mahomes and Jackson can match.... but the in structure stuff isn't developing. The bread and butter QB skills are no further enhanced to my eye this year. So I think if I am content Williams checks out personality wise I'd pick him were I the GM and they will still get someone willing to trade for Fields and give them a day 2 pick back possibly. 3 Quote
BBFL Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Personally I'd have done what they did ladt year, traded out, stocked picks... because there were enough flashes from Fields as a playmaker. He makes out of structure plays at times that probably only Allen, Mahomes and Jackson can match.... but the in structure stuff isn't developing. The bread and butter QB skills are no further enhanced to my eye this year. So I think if I am content Williams checks out personality wise I'd pick him were I the GM and they will still get someone willing to trade for Fields and give them a day 2 pick back possibly. I share the same sentiment and is the only reason I’d be moving on if I had some choice in that scenario. Like you said, there isn’t much development there. He has a place but it certainly isn’t one where they are reliant on winning the game by arm talent alone with him. If they feel Williams isn’t the best option, who is next for them in your eyes? Maye? Penix Jr.? Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Drew21PA said: After losing his team siriani potentially It wouldn’t surprise me. They fired Doug Pederson two years after winning the Super Bowl with Nick Foles 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Wow, Saints players decided to call their own play and overruled Dennis Allen to score a TD rather than kneel down. Winston called it a "team decision" and has no regrets. Said they wanted to honor their teammate by getting him a TD for his selfless play all year. That's pretty unusual I would think. 1 1 Quote
DCOrange Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 hours ago, BBFL said: Agreed. Think that 7–10 buys him one more year. For the sake of that franchise I hope if he is retained he takes a long hard look at getting a replacement if the Fields experiment falters again. Do you feel they go QB or ride the pine another year? I think they pretty much have to go QB in the draft due to Fields’ contract status and the relative lack of development in terms of pocket presence/pocket passing. Having said that, I’m halfway through my scouting of Caleb Williams (haven’t hit this most recent season yet but did study his Heisman campaign) and he is not someone I’d be comfortable taking at the top of the draft personally. The physical tools and creativity are extremely captivating though and I generally favor those types of prospects but it’s legitimately rare to see him simply run the play that is called and do it on schedule. We’ll see how it shakes out once I finish his tape but right now I’d probably grade him as a mid to late 1st rounder based purely on his play. I tend to think a lot of the off field stuff people are getting hung up on is overrated but I’ve been shocked by how much I’ve disliked his on field play. 1 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 hours ago, BBFL said: Agreed. Think that 7–10 buys him one more year. For the sake of that franchise I hope if he is retained he takes a long hard look at getting a replacement if the Fields experiment falters again. Do you feel they go QB or ride the pine another year? As tempting as stock piling picks would be, they'd be dumb to pass up Caleb. Unless somehow they can land work out a deal that gets them #2 (Maye) and a top 5 that lands Harrison. Sounds crazy but we saw Houston pick #1 and #2 or something like that recently, so maybe but proli no lol 29 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Wow, Saints players decided to call their own play and overruled Dennis Allen to score a TD rather than kneel down. Winston called it a "team decision" and has no regrets. Said they wanted to honor their teammate by getting him a TD for his selfless play all year. That's pretty unusual I would think. Usually, but jameis is the weirdest dude in the league lol I could see it being his idea, 10 other saying NOOOO and him audibling to the play anyways 😆😆😆 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 8 Posted January 8 5 hours ago, scuba guy said: No offense but he mite have a heart attack before that. He needs to lose weight and get eating right for heath and welfare I mean, you’re not wrong, but this is a guy who put his coaching career ahead of the physical and psychological well being of two of his sons. Why would he put his own physical well being ahead of his coaching career? Quote
chongli Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: Atlanta fired coach… Edited January 8 by chongli Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 8 Posted January 8 The Arthur Smith situation is why you absolutely have to take a big swing on a QB within probably the first 2 years of your tenure, let alone 3. That really has to suck for him knowing he didn’t even give himself a shot with a possible franchise QB. Quote
4merper4mer Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: The Arthur Smith situation is why you absolutely have to take a big swing on a QB within probably the first 2 years of your tenure, let alone 3. That really has to suck for him knowing he didn’t even give himself a shot with a possible franchise QB. At least he set all sorts of records for pouting and whining. Quote
Warcodered Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Wow, Saints players decided to call their own play and overruled Dennis Allen to score a TD rather than kneel down. Winston called it a "team decision" and has no regrets. Said they wanted to honor their teammate by getting him a TD for his selfless play all year. That's pretty unusual I would think. Did he have an incentive I'm guessing? Either way that's still ridiculous, what he ran it in when the other team thought it was an agreed ending of the game yippee, is he an NFL player or a Make a Wish Kid. Quote
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