Patrick Duffy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Just now, Doc Brown said: They like him just because they hated McDaniels and you get that initial bump with the foundation already in place. I can't recall an interm head coach with no prior head coaching experience ever being successful when hired permanently. Really!?! You can't honestly believe that? I couldn't disagree more with you here simply because (with all due respect) it's wildly nonsense mixed with sprinkled in silliness. Absolutely nothing at all to do with McDaniel. They like him because he's shown that whole roster he is the leader they were missing and took advantage of an opportunity proving he can be a HC in this league and it couldn't be more crystal clear. Regarding the rest of your post, I'm not sure about interim HC's stats when hired permanently off top of my head, but since you mention, it makes me have a small interest enough I will look it up. However, doesn't mean a lot either way, just because you can't recall doesn't mean it can't happen, or has happened. Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 9 Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: Really!?! You can't honestly believe that? I couldn't disagree more with you here simply because (with all due respect) it's wildly nonsense mixed with sprinkled in silliness. Absolutely nothing at all to do with McDaniel. They like him because he's shown that whole roster he is the leader they were missing and took advantage of an opportunity proving he can be a HC in this league and it couldn't be more crystal clear. Regarding the rest of your post, I'm not sure about interim HC's stats when hired permanently off top of my head, but since you mention, it makes me have a small interest enough I will look it up. However, doesn't mean a lot either way, just because you can't recall doesn't mean it can't happen, or has happened. It's been done with coaches without any head coaching experience. Frazier with the Vikings. Cable with the Raiders. Singletary with the 49ers. All those teams played better initially but all three would be considered failures once they got the permanent gig. Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) I speculate that Vrabel becoming available will accelerate Kraft's decision regarding BB. If Kraft was on the fence, he needs to make up his mind quickly. Vrabel is the best candidate available and should prefer a Pats job due to his history Edited January 9 by Fan in Chicago 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted January 9 Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Lewan(piece of work that he is) talked about having Henry on his podcast shortly after this interview, Henry was already probably gone, have to think this seals that. 1 Quote
Utah John Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/7/2024 at 6:50 PM, boater said: Yeah, the college system can't produce enough quality QBs and HCs. I'd say there's enough talent for a 28 team league. People, like Goodell, talking expansion are nuts. They're not nuts, they're just greedy. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It's been done with coaches without any head coaching experience. Frazier with the Vikings. Cable with the Raiders. Singletary with the 49ers. All those teams played better initially but all three would be considered failures once they got the permanent gig. So those 3 is enough names for you to conclude it can't happen? Quote
Carmel Corn Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? Quote
Back2Buff Posted January 9 Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? I'm not convinced the get rid of Bill. Kraft is a very cheap owner, and he just signed an extension. They were competitive at end of year. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 9 Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I'm not convinced the get rid of Bill. Kraft is a very cheap owner, and he just signed an extension. They were competitive at end of year. For values of "competitive" equal to "lose 17-3 to the Jets"? 1 Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? Someone is going to overpay for his services. Wouldn’t be surprised if the chargers or raiders do. Quote
DCOrange Posted January 9 Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? I certainly won't be surprised if he ends up in New England, but based on the breakdown in Tennessee where Vrabel wanted to go win now while ownership ultimately decided to rebuild long-term, I'm not sure New England is a good fit either. Obviously plenty of connections there though. Kinda think Vrabel has his eye on the Chargers or Falcons jobs. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 9 Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? They ain't fired Belicheck yet. Got to fire one before you can hire the other. Quote
QCity Posted January 9 Posted January 9 24 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Does anybody NOT believe that Vrabel ends up with the Patriots????? I don't. I think it's lazy analysis by fans/media. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he did wind up in NE, but the QB situation there isn't ideal. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 9 Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, QCity said: I don't. I think it's lazy analysis by fans/media. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he did wind up in NE, but the QB situation there isn't ideal. Not ideal … but a No 3 pick in their back pocket helps Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 9 Posted January 9 33 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: So those 3 is enough names for you to conclude it can't happen? Yes. Quote
Back2Buff Posted January 9 Posted January 9 21 minutes ago, Beck Water said: For values of "competitive" equal to "lose 17-3 to the Jets"? Did you watch the game? He was very ill and it snowed like crazy. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: F*ck taylor lewan, I mean that in all sincerity, what a piece of garbage that guy is 2 1 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. Well, alrighty then. You're entitled to think whatever even if completely wrong. Anywho, I can't take you serious regarding this particular subject at this point so I'm moving on lol Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Patrick Duffy said: Well, alrighty then. You're entitled to think whatever even if completely wrong. Anywho, I can't take you serious regarding this particular subject at this point so I'm moving on lol Thanks Patrick. 1 1 Quote
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