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Score the most number of TDs as a QB… be an alternate. The turnover storyline has really done a number on Josh. Bet Mahomes has still made it, despite his count not being that much lower. Jackson is obvious. Who’s the third? Tua?

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2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Score the most number of TDs as a QB… be an alternate. The turnover storyline has really done a number on Josh. Bet Mahomes has still made it, despite his count not being that much lower. Jackson is obvious. Who’s the third? Tua?

 

If you throw out the goal line runs for Allen, his play this year definitely a peg below his prior years. His entire MVP candidacy has essentially been his ability to score inside the 5 yard line. Tons of bad games on the year. Which has been true across the league with QBs. Defenses definitely punched back this year in a major way.

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4 minutes ago, Coldfronts said:

hard to believe Josh has only 2 pro bowl seasons....ridged 

Pretty laughable....

Just now, ganesh said:

Ed Oliver as a 3rd alternate is really stupid !

Also disgraceful 

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2 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

If you throw out the goal line runs for Allen, his play this year definitely a peg below his prior years. His entire MVP candidacy has essentially been his ability to score inside the 5 yard line. Tons of bad games on the year. Which has been true across the league with QBs. Defenses definitely punched back this year in a major way.

 

Why would anyone "throw out" his goal line runs? Just FYI, he was the number one fantasy player in my league.   He's a total stud, period, and should be a pro bowler.

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Just now, beebe said:

 

If you throw out the goal line runs for Allen, his play this year definitely a peg below his prior years. His entire MVP candidacy has essentially been his ability to score inside the 5 yard line. Tons of bad games on the year. Which has been true across the league with QBs. Defenses definitely punched back this year in a major way.


Josh generally turns up in the 4th and puts the Bills in a winning position. Whether the defense can then hold on to that is a coin flip. Had they done so against the Pats and the Broncos (more on ST), had the Eagles kicker not managed a freak, he’d probably be right up there without doing anything differently. As you say, QB play has been pretty poor all round this year and, even trying to take my Bills tinted spectacles off, I can’t name two other QBs who have done more for their team in the AFC, Jackson aside.

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6 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

If you throw out the goal line runs for Allen, his play this year definitely a peg below his prior years. His entire MVP candidacy has essentially been his ability to score inside the 5 yard line. Tons of bad games on the year. Which has been true across the league with QBs. Defense definitely punched back this year in a major way.

Allen only has 5 goal line TDs. The rest of his rushing TDs are from 3+ yards. He has by far the most non-“tush push” rushing TDs by a QB this year.

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Major snubs for Oliver and Douglas.   You could probably consider Josh a snub, kind of odd the guy who leads the league in total touchdowns isnt a pro bowler, but Lamar is the darling of the NFL right now.   NFL needs to do away with the Pro Bowl and just do the All Pro List. 

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6 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Ed Oliver as a 3rd alternate is really stupid !

 

We could see a particularly angry Ed on Sunday.

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12 minutes ago, Coldfronts said:

hard to believe Josh has only 2 pro bowl seasons....ridged 

 

This stuff all goes on post career resume. Josh get nothing.  Meanwhile with 2 MVPs Lamar is probably being fitted for his gold jacket regardless of whether they win a SB or not

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I think I remember from 2 years ago when Lamar Jackson inexplicably got the pro bowl over Allen, it came out that the big difference was the player portion of the vote.

 

Basically the players hate Josh Allen’s guts and won’t vote for him. They all seem to be buddies with Lamar Jackson, so he got the nod (despite not deserving it at all).

 

I have to imagine something similar happened this year. My conspiracy theory is he hasn’t been able to shake the reputation from the pre-draft tweets.

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Just now, thenorthremembers said:

Major snubs for Oliver and Douglas.   You could probably consider Josh a snub, kind of odd the guy who leads the league in total touchdowns isnt a pro bowler, but Lamar is the darling of the NFL right now.   NFL needs to do away with the Pro Bowl and just do the All Pro List. 


Have they changed it? Is it just one QB from each conference to the pro-bowl now as I thought it was three? If just the one I can fully understand why Jackson (presumably) has been picked ahead of Josh. If it is three, I think I’ll be unimpressed with whoever the other two are. Mahomes isn’t far behind in TOs and has fewer TDs and Tua is reliant on his receiving corps. Perhaps Stroud has got in because of the fairytale storyline they’ve placed on him, despite him looking a shadow of himself when he lost Dell.

 

Completely agree with you and others about Oliver. I suppose Douglas’ issue is he joined the Bills mid season. Not sure how he’d performed for the Packers before then.

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