Donuts and Doritos Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Passing O. has looked off ever since the Philly game (has actually looked off a lot of the season). Philly game is the last game w/ more than 1 passing TD. What's the problem? (Is it Josh, Brady, the Playmakers or something else)? Here's the player game stats (in order of top catchers on the team this season): Josh Allen: Yds. TD. Int NE. 15/30 169 0 1 LA. 15/21. 237. 1. 1 DAL. 7/15. 94. 1. 0 KC. 23/42. 233. 1. 1 PHIL 29/51. 339. 2. 1 1. Diggs: Yds. TD NE. 4/7. 26. 0 LA. 5/8. 29. 0 DAL. 4/5. 48. 0 KC. 4/11. 24. 0 PHIL 6/11. 74. 1 2. Davis: Yds. TD NE. 2/3. 21. 0 LA. 4/6. 130. 1 DAL. 0/1. 0. 0 KC. 0/2. 0. 0 PHIL 6/12. 105. 1 3. Kincaid: Yds. TD NE. 4/7. 87. 0 LA. 1/2. 7. 0 DAL. 0/2. 0. 0 KC. 5/8. 21. 0 PHIL 5/6. 38. 0 4. Shakir: Yds. TD NE. 4/4. 39. 0 LA. 3/3. 45. 0 DAL. 0/1. 0. 0 KC. 1/1. 12. 0 PHIL 3/5. 47. 0 5. Cook: Yds. TD NE. 1/3. -4. 0 LA. 0/0. 0. 0 DAL. 2/3. 42. 1 KC. 5/5. 83. 1 PHIL 6/7. 57. 0 6. Knox: Yds. TD NE. No stats registered LA. 2/2. 26. 0 DAL. No stats registered KC. 3/3. 36. 0 PHIL Didn't play Harty: 1 catch 25 yds KC game Murray: 1 catch 21 yds KC game 3 catch 18 yds Phil game Sherfield: 1 catch 9 yds KC game (Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills) Edited December 31, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 1 Posted January 1 We came into the season knowing that we didn't have a #2 WR on the roster. Now it turns out we don't have a true #1 either. We have no speed, no YAC ability, below average separation and catch ability from our WR corps. That's why our passing offense has looked so inconsistent, there is zero margin for error. 30 13 2 Quote
Bills!Win! Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) The problem is we never replaced Beasley, Brown and Sanders. Sherfield and Harty. Really? We have Mr. Butt punt and a guy who changed his last name Edited January 1 by Bills!Win! 3 5 5 Quote
Peter Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) I was under the impression from some people on this board, Cover 1, and WGR that Dorsey was responsible for anything wrong with the offense, the economy, the Ukraine, and the Middle East. Edited January 1 by Peter 2 11 3 3 Quote
Chugga Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I just posted in another thread Allen and Diggs are close but aren’t clicking 100%. In the last two weeks Allen and Diggs are 1-2 yards short or 1-2 yards long on a few throws that would SIGNIFICANTLY alter their final stat totals. I also think our passing game has suffered with Knox on the field more than Kincaid. Also NFL coaches get paid a ton of money to figure out how to stop the Bills. I think the blueprint is to take away Diggs and hope Allen gets bored taking the easy stuff. And with our skill positions sometimes the “easy stuff” ain’t easy. 4 5 1 Quote
ALG1130 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, HappyDays said: We came into the season knowing that we didn't have a #2 WR on the roster. Now it turns out we don't have a true #1 either. We have no speed, no YAC ability, below average separation and catch ability from our WR corps. That's why our passing offense has looked so inconsistent, there is zero margin for error. Yeah, I get that Diggs is double covered, but he has been shockingly dropping some catches or not coming up with the ones in years past that he was always good for. It has been tossed around that he might be hurt? I don't think NOW is the right time for him to start the cryptic stuff that he is doing right now on SM. He also needs to take some accountability. Really don't want to roll into Miami with him pouting. 2 1 Quote
Bferra13 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I think its Josh. Looks panicky in the pocket. Not going through his progression properly. From my untrained eye. 11 1 1 5 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aimee75 said: I get that Diggs is double covered He hasn't been double covered since at least the Chiefs game. He is just plain getting swallowed up against single man coverage. At least when he was getting bracketed it was opening other things up. As of right now nothing is getting opened up because no one can win their basic 1v1 assignment. Edited January 1 by HappyDays 3 1 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 1 Posted January 1 13 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: The problem is we never replaced Beasley, Brown and Sanders. Sherfield and Harty. Really? We have Mr. Butt punt and a guy who changed his last name Why have they regressed so much off last year? It's the same group, even should be somewhat better. Production has really declined with Diggs and and Gabe is very inconsistent. Brady really hasn't been able to get the WR unit going. Quote
BlazinBill Posted January 1 Posted January 1 We just need weapons- we keep swinging and missing with mediocre players based off salary cap - need to draft talent period - just need to make sure we hit on that talent 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Why have they regressed so much off last year? It's the same group, even should be somewhat better. Production has really declined with Diggs and and Gabe is very inconsistent. Brady really hasn't been able to get the WR unit going. Because Diggs just isn't very good right now. I see a lot of Bills fans are afraid to say it out loud. Everyone sees his production has gone down and is grasping for answers. The simplest answer is the correct one. I'm not sure there are 20 WRs he is out playing right now. It's a massive concern heading into the playoffs. 3 1 3 6 1 Quote
Success Posted January 1 Posted January 1 My biggest memories of Sherfield from this season will be of him kind of getting open over the middle for a 15-20 yard gain, but getting kind of interfered w/ and not being able to complete the play. Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 1 Posted January 1 49 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Passing O. has looked off ever since the Philly game (has actually looked off a lot of the season). Philly game is the last game w/ more than 1 passing TD. What's the problem? (Is it Josh, Brady, the Playmakers or something else)? Here's the player game stats (in order of top catchers on the team this season): Josh Allen: Yds. TD. Int NE. 15/30 169 0 1 LA. 15/21. 237. 1. 1 DAL. 7/15. 94. 1. 0 KC. 23/42. 233. 1. 1 PHIL 29/51. 339. 2. 1 1. Diggs: Yds. TD NE. 4/7. 26. 0 LA. 5/8. 29. 0 DAL. 4/5. 48. 0 KC. 4/11. 24. 0 PHIL 6/11. 74. 1 2. Davis: Yds. TD NE. 2/3. 21. 0 LA. 4/6. 130. 1 DAL. 0/1. 0. 0 KC. 0/2. 0. 0 PHIL 6/12. 105. 1 3. Kincaid: Yds. TD NE. 4/7. 87. 0 LA. 1/2. 7. 0 DAL. 0/2. 0. 0 KC. 5/8. 21. 0 PHIL 5/6. 38. 0 4. Shakir: Yds. TD NE. 4/4. 39. 0 LA. 3/3. 45. 0 DAL. 0/1. 0. 0 KC. 1/1. 12. 0 PHIL 3/5. 47. 0 5. Cook: Yds. TD NE. 1/3. -4. 0 LA. 0/0. 0. 0 DAL. 2/3. 42. 1 KC. 5/5. 83. 1 PHIL 6/7. 57. 0 6. Knox: Yds. TD NE. No stats registered LA. 2/2. 26. 0 DAL. No stats registered KC. 3/3. 36. 0 PHIL Didn't play Harty: 1 catch 25 yds KC game Murray: 1 catch 21 yds KC game 3 catch 18 yds Phil game Sherfield: 1 catch 9 yds KC game (Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills) We got some sugar high after Cowboys game and think were some ground and pound team 1 1 2 Quote
Drew21PA Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Well to be fair answer is easy on two of them 1 rbis patriots defense is actually REALLY GOOD 2 Dallas game we didn’t need to throw we ran all over them. josh was off out west but we never travel out west and win so I’ll take it 2 Quote
FireChans Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Josh isn’t playing well + offensive skill pieces aren’t playing well + Dorsey’s crappy playbook. Edited January 1 by FireChans 1 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) The decision for OC is critical. I hope McD isn’t complacent with Brady because he’s the easy choice and actually considers other legit options. When it was time to replace Daboll, we interviewed Dorsey, Hall (I think. Maybe not), and Tee Martin. Not a single person with OC experience was considered that I can recall. It’s probably time for an outsider to come and in shake things up on offense. Edited January 1 by Bangarang 3 3 1 Quote
Captain_Quint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Diggs looks hurt. His cuts are rounded off, and has little separation. The short passes on the bubble screens are Brady trying to get him an easy one. But that's not really what Diggs does. The rush today, and the quick throw to the left was another example of trying to get him going. The long pass to him over the top today looked like he was running fast, but not sprinting. I think he's got a lingering injury where he can go, but can't cut like he could in the early part of the year. 4 3 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 1 Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Aimee75 said: Yeah, I get that Diggs is double covered, but he has been shockingly dropping some catches or not coming up with the ones in years past that he was always good for. It has been tossed around that he might be hurt? I don't think NOW is the right time for him to start the cryptic stuff that he is doing right now on SM. He also needs to take some accountability. Really don't want to roll into Miami with him pouting. Uh-oh, what’s Diggs posting now? Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, Drew21PA said: josh was off out west but we never travel out west and win so I’ll take it Remember the season opener against the Rams last year? He was off today back east .. Edited January 1 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote
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