Last 4 games WR's average 107 yards total per game

[Mikie2times]

If you recall we barely threw to the WR's vs KC. Then we had the Dallas game where we barely threw a pass. Last week the Charger game in which Gabe DID have a pretty big day. Then just today.

 

It's a bit crazy to think, our entire unit is at 107 yard average the last 4 games. That is less than what Steph got used to pulling in alone.  

 

Can it work with this level of production? I don't think we can keep expecting to manufacture points like this. What is happening anyway? Yes, easy to say the WR's suck, but isn't it basically the same unit as last year, likely even slightly better? The line did not play well today, but isn't that unit better than last year by a good margin? 

 

Any thought on if you think this is a rut or perhaps something bigger is occurring? 

[Beast]

I think we all know what we will be calling for in round 1 next April.

[yall]

25 minutes ago, Beast said:

I think we all know what we will be calling for in round 1 next April.

An undersized defensive end?

[Einstein]

Josh missed a couple guys today, but overall, everyone was blanketed. 

 

It was sad to see.

 

Just zero separation as far as the eye could see.

 

A barren landscape with skin-and-bones antelope running without food in sight.

[Mynamemike]

34 minutes ago, Beast said:

I think we all know what we will be calling for in round 1 next April.

Another Edge rusher? 

[The Jokeman]

3 minutes ago, Mynamemike said:

Another Edge rusher? 

If Floyd and AJE leave in free agency it's not a crazy thought. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Something is off for sure, the passing offense has taken a step back as a whole, not just Allen. 
 

I would say Brady may not be a shoe in to get the OC job. 

[LABILLBACKER]

Basically our current offense centers around several Josh tush push tds. WR's are getting no separation. Diggs & Josh have lost their chemistry. You know you're in serious trouble when Shakir & Kincaid have to save you. Our WR1/WR2 production is basically zero and we can't realistically expect a deep playoff run with that.

[Bferra13]

Greg Cossell did his weekly OBL thing this week as he does and he brought up how Josh has really looked uncomfortable in the pocket this year and leaves it very prematurely on a regular basis. In doing this, its not giving the WR's proper time to seperate and everyone has to go off script. He's right. This game wasn't the best example because the oline play wasn't great, but bigger picture this is a problem. 

Edited January 1 by Bferra13

[Nextmanup]

Is there a pressing reason why this couldn't have been a post in the "What's wrong with the passing O" thread?  

 

 

[SCBills]

Diggs usage is bizarre and when he’s out there is a whole lotta meh.  Runs a route and then comes off the field for the rest of the series.    
 

Davis is what he is.  A great blocking receiver who is a legitimate deep threat.  Not a reliable go to option / chain mover.  
 

Shakir is solid.  
 

We have nothing else. 
 

Sherfield is contractually obligated to not catch passes. 
 

Harty is a non-factor.  
 

But hey.. we all know Allen likes throwing to shifty separating WR’s, so here’s some Tight Ends.  
 

The neglect at WR has been insane.. called out every single year.. and hopefully it doesn’t doom this team.  
 

Diggs needs to figure out how to become Diggs again.. because lately the dude is basically Emmanuel Sanders of a couple years ago. 
 

Edited January 1 by SCBills

[78thealltimegreat]

My honest opinion is these guys have trouble getting separation teams anymore are jamming the WRs at the line of scrimmage.
In addition Steph Diggs just doesn’t look like the same player. I don’t know if he’s hurt or maybe he’s just starting to wear down or his play is starting to decline faster then anyone thought…but it goes without saying WR is really the biggest priority this off season…that and getting younger on defense. 

[hondo in seattle]

On 12/31/2023 at 3:00 PM, Mikie2times said:

If you recall we barely threw to the WR's vs KC. Then we had the Dallas game where we barely threw a pass. Last week the Charger game in which Gabe DID have a pretty big day. Then just today.

 

It's a bit crazy to think, our entire unit is at 107 yard average the last 4 games. That is less than what Steph got used to pulling in alone.  

 

Can it work with this level of production? I don't think we can keep expecting to manufacture points like this. What is happening anyway? Yes, easy to say the WR's suck, but isn't it basically the same unit as last year, likely even slightly better? The line did not play well today, but isn't that unit better than last year by a good margin? 

 

Any thought on if you think this is a rut or perhaps something bigger is occurring? 

 

Our receivers aren't that bad.   

 

Part of the problem is that Josh hasn't been playing well.  Hurt?  Yips?  Romantic problems?  

 

But mostly I blame Brady.  He's diversified the offense which is good but he's not scheming guys open.  

[mrags]

On 12/31/2023 at 8:29 PM, Beast said:

I think we all know what we will be calling for in round 1 next April.

Yup. A DT or S. It’s a shame we have a defensive minded coach 

[PromoTheRobot]

Let's flip the conversation. The Bills are no longer a pass-only offense. Teams have to worry about defending the run too.

Just now, mrags said:

Yup. A DT or S. It’s a shame we have a defensive minded coach 

 

Is that why we drafted a TE and an OG in the first two rounds?

[HeHateMe]

Josh hasn't been comfortable, his deep ball % has to be awful.  Diggs isn't separating as much and when he does Josh misses him.  It's hard to be confident in Davis since he has stone hands.  Same with Knox.  Kincaid is a bright spot but is still learning the game.  Shakir is OK.  We need a dynamic WR badly.  Diggs should maybe move to the slot after this year..

[mrags]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Let's flip the conversation. The Bills are no longer a pass-only offense. Teams have to worry about defending the run too.

 

Is that why we drafted a TE and an OG in the first two rounds?

Well. We absolutely needed a linemen so I have no doubt about Torrence. But let’s be real, it’s the first offensive first round pick McDermott has ever made other than Allen. Stats are stats. And half of his 2nd and 3rd rounders have been RBs that don’t even play for the team anymore. 

[SCBills]

Would love if the Bills can find a way to keep Jones and one of Floyd/Epenesa.. then I'd honestly go back to back RD1/RD2 WR with how insanely good this Draft is at that position, and the fact we're likely heading into the new league year with only Diggs, Shakir and Shorter.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 12/31/2023 at 9:31 PM, Bferra13 said:

Greg Cossell did his weekly OBL thing this week as he does and he brought up how Josh has really looked uncomfortable in the pocket this year and leaves it very prematurely on a regular basis. In doing this, its not giving the WR's proper time to seperate and everyone has to go off script. He's right. This game wasn't the best example because the oline play wasn't great, but bigger picture this is a problem. 

I don’t think any of the recent bad offensive games have been a good example of that 😂. He does seem to do that a little too much in the games where the interior offensive line isn’t getting blown up though and I think that opening week loss to the jets he did it a good amount too 

[Dopey]

13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Let's flip the conversation. The Bills are no longer a pass-only offense. Teams have to worry about defending the run too.

 

Is that why we drafted a TE and an OG in the first two rounds?

Dude, stop making sense here. Not allowed.