Around the NFL Week 17

[Gunsgoodtime]

Finhave froze, on lock down for the inevitable 

[Scott7975]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, dhgold said:

I don't feel like wading through this entire thread to see which way the wind is blowing, so I'll just ask: are you, Bills fan, rooting for the Chiefs or the Bengals?

 

I'm rooting for the Bengals. My logic: I don't want the Bills weasling into the playoffs as a six seed, but if the Bengals win, the #2 seed is just a win over the Dolphins away.

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Bengals. F the Chiefs.

[HappyDays]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:22 PM, Aussie Joe said:

He has been terrible for months 

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I find it interesting that this is the conclusion a lot of people are drawing, instead of what I think is the obvious conclusion - his poor weapons and average OL give him a very low margin for error. Every missed pass or bad play is magnified tenfold because nobody else on their offense is making plays for him. I'd like to think I'm somewhat of an expert on this topic having watched every snap Josh Allen has ever taken.

[stevestojan]

Chiefs turn stupid just when we need them to be not stupid. 

[dma0034]

Chiefs punt returner loss about 15 yards of field position there

[stuvian]

Seahawks D is flat today 

[letsgoteam]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, dhgold said:

I don't feel like wading through this entire thread to see which way the wind is blowing, so I'll just ask: are you, Bills fan, rooting for the Chiefs or the Bengals?

 

I'm rooting for the Bengals. My logic: I don't want the Bills weasling into the playoffs as a six seed, but if the Bengals win, the #2 seed is just a win over the Dolphins away.

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weasel? you get in the playoffs however you can take it, the sooner the better

[BRH]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, dhgold said:

I don't feel like wading through this entire thread to see which way the wind is blowing, so I'll just ask: are you, Bills fan, rooting for the Chiefs or the Bengals?

 

I'm rooting for the Bengals. My logic: I don't want the Bills weasling into the playoffs as a six seed, but if the Bengals win, the #2 seed is just a win over the Dolphins away.

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We get the 2 seed by beating the Dolphins no matter what happens in any other game. 

[Aussie Joe]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:30 PM, HappyDays said:

 

I find it interesting that this is the conclusion a lot of people are drawing, instead of what I think is the obvious conclusion - his poor weapons and average OL give him a very low margin for error. Every missed pass or bad play is magnified tenfold because nobody else on their offense is making plays for him. I'd like to think I'm somewhat of an expert on this topic having watched every snap Josh Allen has ever taken.

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A lot of throws look off to me 

[HappyDays]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, Draconator said:

Pickens shows the effort Diggs should have had 

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It's tough to hit a deep pass to a WR with average speed and average catch radius. Very low margin for error on that throw.

[RobbRiddick]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Steelers are gonna win. I don't see how it's possible to bring McD back if they make the playoffs over us with their revolving door at QB. 

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Let's be honest, there's zero chance McD gets canned

[Tulsabillsfanz]

I’m glad I’m not a Seattle fan.  What a weak defensive team. 

[zow2]

Steelers fans must be pretty irate over wasting a couple games with Trubisky when the answer was in the building.

[stevestojan]

Does just one of the two happening (Chiefs OR Seahawks winning) help us for next weeks odds, or was it all or nothing today? 
 

Literally might be playing for the 2 seed or missing the playoffs next week. Brutal. 

[UKBillFan]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:33 PM, zow2 said:

Steelers fans must be pretty irate over wasting a couple games with Trubisky when the answer was in the building.

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I think they were irate whilst it was happening.

[Draconator]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:32 PM, HappyDays said:

 

It's tough to hit a deep pass to a WR with average speed and average catch radius. Very low margin for error on that throw.

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I see your point

[dhgold]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:31 PM, BRH said:

We get the 2 seed by beating the Dolphins no matter what happens in any other game. 

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Good point

[HappyDays]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:31 PM, Aussie Joe said:

A lot of throws look off to me 

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I've watched a ton of Chiefs games over the past few years. Mahomes has always had some ball placement issues over the years, that has never been his strength. He just can't get away with it because his pass catchers are giving him zero help. It is the year of the playmaker and a couple AFC contenders are falling awfully short on that front.

[letsgoteam]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:33 PM, stevestojan said:

Does just one of the two happening (Chiefs OR Seahawks winning) help us for next weeks odds, or was it all or nothing today? 
 

Literally might be playing for the 2 seed or missing the playoffs next week. Brutal. 

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no, teams can lose (or tie) next week too, for the Bills to qualify. 

[Thrivefourfive]

  On 12/31/2023 at 11:29 PM, dhgold said:

I don't feel like wading through this entire thread to see which way the wind is blowing, so I'll just ask: are you, Bills fan, rooting for the Chiefs or the Bengals?

 

I'm rooting for the Bengals. My logic: I don't want the Bills weasling into the playoffs as a six seed, but if the Bengals win, the #2 seed is just a win over the Dolphins away.

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Chiefs, of course. Get in the tournament by any means possible. Weasel is a fine mammal.