Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 You have a game with as complex rules as this one … and the officials are going to make mistakes from time to time…actually make that regularly… They stuff up in soccer too which is about 100 times simpler … Quote
Gman10 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wrestling is rehearsed. The opponents rehearse before shows to get it right. When did the Lions and Cowboys rehearse? At some point in the week, the Bills and Pats have rehearsed for what is going to happen in the game? Lol watch that video. Im just messing around...ya'll need to lighten up a bit..this is the internet after all! BTW, great username! Edited December 31, 2023 by Gman10 Quote
gordong Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I love the balls on Campbell. I’d take him 10 times out of 10 over McDermott sorry but not kicking the extra point to tie the game was dumb after they line up wrong,,, that as bad as having 12 guys on defense for a kick. 1 3 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 if andy reid did the same thing and the officials didn't screw up who was eligible the national media would be rubbing one out tonight in unison to the genius of Andy Reid. Instead this will somehow by the middle of the week turn into a mistake by Campbell and the lions. Quote
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: A breakdown: he doesn't want to talk about it all right. AKA he doesn't want to incur a Big Fat FINE. If the officials screwed the pooch on that they deserve every bit of consternation coming their way. ugly Ugly UGLY 3 Quote
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, sullim4 said: The ref didn't call it because they thought the lineman was ineligible. If that lineman was indeed eligible, it would have been an illegal formation flag. This article explains it well: https://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2012/5/10/3012755/inside-the-clemson-offense-tackle-eligible-formation#:~:text=Covered and uncovered are as,eligible to receive forward passes. You’re not interpreting the article correctly. If Decker was covered by a WR, it would have made him an ineligible WR. He wasn’t covered though, so if he reported as the replay seems to indicate, he would have been an eligible receiver and no illegal formation would have occurred. 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: A breakdown: Ref just doing what he wants. No need to actually pay attention to detail when your responsible for enforcing rules at the highest level of a sporting event 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said: Ref just doing what he wants. No need to actually pay attention to detail when your responsible for enforcing rules at the highest level of a sporting event Exactly this. Ref needs to make sure who’s reporting. He rushed it. 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The Lions could've been flagged 15 yards on that 2 pt conversion and Campbell would've still gone for it. There's a fine line between aggressive and stupid. Oh I fully believe that line is exactly Dan Campbell wide. I thought he was going to cry (again) or scream at that presser. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, zow2 said: We don’t know what the Detroit Olinemen said but it’s weird he would walk up to the ref and not report. Three lineman walk up to the ref and we don’t know what any of the three say. Lions could have avoided all of this by only having one lineman walk up to the ref. Then we would no for certain who reported even without audio. Quote
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Don’t hold your breath on accountability. ESPN has been busy making excuses since it happened. protect the SHIELD what a huge crock of baloney. I'm pretty livid and it's not even my team. Just UGH 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Can we also just remove officiating experts from explaining stuff to us during the game? I swear they’re wrong half the time. 2 Quote
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: But we’re all assuming stuff. 70 also goes to the ref. The ref you can see looks right at 70. Why did 3 lineman go to the ref? What did 70 say to the ref? It sounds like 70 ran over to the ref to trick the defense into thinking he was the one reporting, but Campbell had warned the ref in advance that it would be 68 actually reporting and you can see 68 is the one actually speaking to the ref. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Can we also just remove officiating experts from explaining stuff to us during the game? I swear they’re wrong half the time. Post of the day 👍 Quote
Punch Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Don’t hold your breath on accountability. ESPN has been busy making excuses since it happened. Scott Van Pelt pushed back hard against officiating analyst John Parry when Parry blamed Taylor Decker during ESPN's post-game discussion. Quote
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: that doesn't really make sense though because they announce the player who is eligible and i think if i remember correctly they said skipper before the snap. The Schwartz brothers (former OL guys) were tweeting about this after the game. Basically said offenses do this because between the adrenaline and the crowd noise, players can’t hear/willfully don’t listen to who they’re announcing as eligible so if you’re slick about it, you can trick them. They should be able to tell based off the formation anyways but Detroit motioned Sewell over to the line late in the pre-snap to cause confusion on that front too. Quote
JROC INTEL Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Seriously so many games come down to refs or rules, how many times are we going to have these conversations without just admitting it’s a major flaw of the sport itself. These conversations are beyond predictable. 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 What’s funny is that play wasn’t even the Lions top play!!! McCarthy called timeout right before the snap before they could run their top play. 1 Quote
mikemac2001 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It sounds like 70 ran over to the ref to trick the defense into thinking he was the one reporting, but Campbell had warned the ref in advance that it would be 68 actually reporting and you can see 68 is the one actually speaking to the ref. Then that sounds like a smart play and don’t they announce who reports Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It sounds like 70 ran over to the ref to trick the defense into thinking he was the one reporting, but Campbell had warned the ref in advance that it would be 68 actually reporting and you can see 68 is the one actually speaking to the ref. We don’t know exactly what Campbell said pre game but that was 3-4 hours earlier. He probably should’ve reminded him before the drive or during a timeout. 1 Quote
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