LA doesn't care about the Chargers

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

I thought they are passionate about the Lakers and Dodgers. It's not a great football market with the NFL. Maybe college with USC and UCLA.

I'd rank the Dodgers/Lakers 1a/1b.  The Trojans are 2. Then the Rams are a distant 3. If you saw how pathetic that Ram parade was down Figueroa,  you'd realize immediately how inconsequential the NFL is in LA.  The NFL wants the market but besides 100k Raider fans, there's no local dominate fan base. Just a scattering of other teams. Even the 49er fans dominate SoFi like we did v the Chargers. 

 

Sadly my Bruins will be lost at the bottom with the Chargers and Clippers.  The Angels are way down in Anaheim so don't even count.

Edited December 29, 2023 by LABILLBACKER

[C.Biscuit97]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I'd like to see the people of St. Louis made whole.

 

They got screwed and that city should have a team.

 

 

Cali fans are not as rabid as East Coast or Midwest fans but NorCal fans are considerably more rabid than SoCal fans.

 

 

For better or worse, "deserving" has only to do with the degree to which a community is willing to force their politicians to build new multi-billion dollar venues.

 

 

Dodgers fans are notorious for arriving late and leaving early.

 

As someone who loves going late to games and leaving early to beat traffic, I understand this logic. Especially in LA.

 

dodgers and Lakers fans are as diehard as they come. LA loves those teams. The rest are only in demand if they are good. They could care less otherwise, plus there are so many transplants.

[dma0034]

It was dumb bringing two teams to LA imo. St. Louis should still have the Rams. Honestly I would have pushed for a NFL team in Toronto before LA too. LA just doesn't care about any team but the Lakers. Dodgers had to buy the best players before people paid attention

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

pic?

Just google "Chargers OnlyFan" and tiny Asian. I'm sure you'll get some good results. 😂😂

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

To be fair, over twice the number of households saw the game in LA. Buffalo is obviously a loyal market, but the NFL wants eyes on the television, regardless of percentages in any given city. The league reached over 700K households in LA. The sheer size of that market is exactly what they wanted, even if only 12% of the city cared. 

 

Exactly!

 

The NFL only cares about having more TOTAL viewers. LA's 12% household viewership still provided nearly 68,000 more households than if 100% of the Buffalo market had tuned in. 

 

I agree with the OP in that the Chargers would've been better served had they been the ones moving to Vegas, but in reality they had a solid existing fanbase & decent sized market in San Diego to begin with.

 

San Diego is the 30th ranked TV media market in North America (with 1,122,930 households & about 3.1 million viewers), ranking above other markets like Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, New Orleans, etc. and just one spot below Baltimore.

 

Not the largest market, but at least they sold out home games & were a priority to their market.

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I know, shocking, right?

 

The Peacock exclusive ratings are out. Overall the game had an average viewership of 7.2 million viewers. But of that number 1.12 million were from just the over the air simulcasts in Los Angeles and Buffalo.

 

Buffalo, TV market rank #54, has 632,110 TV households, 374,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 59.2%.

 

Los Angeles, TV market rank #2, has 5,838,090 TV households, 746,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 12.8%.

 

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/12/peacock-nfl-ratings-seven-million-bills-chargers-viewership/

the team not going to the playoffs, with a fired coach, missing all their stars and having a buzz saw coming to tear through them 

 

The team is a new move to LA and LA is a transient market

 

surely nothing better to do with your Saturday night in LA 

[Reks Ryan]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The Peacock exclusive ratings are out. Overall the game had an average viewership of 7.2 million viewers. But of that number 1.12 million were from just the over the air simulcasts in Los Angeles and Buffalo.

 

Buffalo, TV market rank #54, has 632,110 TV households, 374,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 59.2%.

 

Los Angeles, TV market rank #2, has 5,838,090 TV households, 746,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 12.8%.

 

And of that 746,000 in LA probably close to half the # were just general NFL fans - Football fans, Josh Allen fans, gamblers, fantasy players, etc who really don't care specifically about the Chargers.   But the overall number of households in LA exceeeding  Buffalonians tuning in, proves the point of exactly why the NFL wanted teams back in LA.   

[DrBob806]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

Thanks. I didn't know that. 

It's one of those things I shouldn't really know lol. 

 

Football fans are  a tad damaged

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

The NFL has too many teams.  LA, and California generally, have too many NFL teams.  

 

The Chargers seem like the perfect relocation team.   

Yes, the NFL has too many teams, the talent pool is too diluted.  They have screwed up the quality of the product, the problem is, nobody cares enough to stop watching.  
 

Once the Saudis get done destroying the balance of the golf world, they should take a swing at the NFL.   If they could pull off what they did to the PGA and pull a handful of top QBs to an alternate league, the NFL could crumble the way it deserves to.   Imagine for a second if they pulled Mahomes and Allen to an alternate league and then landed some of the top college guys, who wouldn’t have to enter the NFL draft and can get paid more.  It could disrupt the NFL faster than it did golf.   All it would take is a well timed strike, catch a year when a couple of big QBs are hitting FA and there’s a solid young crop in college.   Think about last year, they could have poached Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud, possibly Rodgers, Brady, and had Herbert and Burrow in their sites, pulled in guys like Flacco etc as other guys.  The league would blow up quick.

[chongli]

The Chargers are opening a brand-new training facility in El Segundo next May as they are trying to improve their image:

 

The Chargers will also pursue Jim Harbaugh to help improve the team, according to Colin Cowherd:

 

https://fox5sandiego.com/sports/sports-illustrated/arena-nfl/si-los-angeles-chargers-nfl/47c4f534/chargers-news-colin-cowherd-states-bolts-will-pursue-jim-harbaugh/

 

"Chargers News: Colin Cowherd States Bolts Will Pursue Jim Harbaugh"

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

To be fair, over twice the number of households saw the game in LA. Buffalo is obviously a loyal market, but the NFL wants eyes on the television, regardless of percentages in any given city. The league reached over 700K households in LA. The sheer size of that market is exactly what they wanted, even if only 12% of the city cared. 

 

this.

 

The OP completely misses the point--no one cares about any one city's viewing numbers---they have nothing to do with the TV contracts, which obviously are sold based on overall TV ratings.

[Don Otreply]

LA is a basketball town always has been, SoCal really doesn’t give much of a sh-t about football as a whole. 

[billsfan89]

San Diego to LA is a three hour or so drive with some traffic. But it takes about 45 minutes to an hour to get out of lots in and around SoFi stadium. So that’s likely 8 how’s hours worth of driving for a game if you live in San Diego.
 

99% of fans just aren’t doing that. So the Chargers pretty much lost their old fanbase (in terms of live attendance) and the market they moved to cares more about the Rams who have more history in the market and have been more successful on field. And even the Rams are still struggling a bit to gain traction.

 

They should have never left San Diego. I know San Diego wasn’t willing to build a new stadium but they probably could have worked out a deal with the city (similar to what Seattle did with their new hockey/basketball arena) where they could have stayed and gotten the renovations to the stadium they needed 

[Just Jack]

5 hours ago, QB Bills said:

Is it weird that I read the thread title in Kanye's voice?

 

Well now you got me doing it.  

[ProcessTruster]

4 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

It had the 5th lowest viewership numbers of the season ahead of only 3 overseas games and a Saints/ Panthers Monday night game.

 

The earlier game between the Bengals/Steelers had twice the viewers.

 

I'm guessing that the majority of people that signed up for peacock to see this game will dump peacock after the playoff game (which I'll bet is this seasons lowest rated playoff game)

I'll be dumping it as soon as the NFL is off of it.   don't need any more reruns of the partridge family to choose from

[Just Jack]

46 minutes ago, chongli said:

The Chargers are opening a brand-new training facility in El Segundo next May as they are trying to improve their image:

 

I've got to wonder if that facility will be closed at times to the general public when they are training before games, so no one will see some of the plays they are trying out.  

[JohnNord]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I know, shocking, right?

 

The Peacock exclusive ratings are out. Overall the game had an average viewership of 7.2 million viewers. But of that number 1.12 million were from just the over the air simulcasts in Los Angeles and Buffalo.

 

Buffalo, TV market rank #54, has 632,110 TV households, 374,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 59.2%.

 

Los Angeles, TV market rank #2, has 5,838,090 TV households, 746,000 of which were tuned into the game. That's 12.8%.

 

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/12/peacock-nfl-ratings-seven-million-bills-chargers-viewership/

This totally makes sense.  Over the few years, the share in the local Buffalo market has been insanely high.  Unfortunately at #54, that viewership is a fraction of the audience that bigger markets get . 

Edited December 29, 2023 by JohnNord

[Ray Stonada]

In Buffalo, even people who hate football can't help but be aware anytime the Bills are playing, no matter how unimportant a game. 

 

In New York, no one has a clue that the Jets or Giants are on unless it's the Super Bowl.

[Saxum]

5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

To be fair, over twice the number of households saw the game in LA. Buffalo is obviously a loyal market, but the NFL wants eyes on the television, regardless of percentages in any given city. The league reached over 700K households in LA. The sheer size of that market is exactly what they wanted, even if only 12% of the city cared. 

 

Games are not just shown in primary markets.  Bills fans are known for travelling across the country and even the world not just from WNY.

The bar which I am president of Bills Backers Group has 300 regularly.

I do think I have seen a Chargers bar within 100 miles of here.

12 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

I've got to wonder if that facility will be closed at times to the general public when they are training before games, so no one will see some of the plays they are trying out.  

 

They could have situation which WTF had where scouts could legally attend and record practices.

[LeGOATski]

Always trying to upgrade depth