NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I’ve always seen the heart of NFL fandom being the Midwest. The west coast doesn’t care, the south is all about college ball, and the northeast has fair weather fans imo. I couldn’t agree more about the west coast, but I think sports just aren’t all that important in most of the larger cities. I dunno, growing up in Western Pa, just like Buffalo those folks lived and died by how the Steelers game had gone that week—but I totally agree with you on college ball in the South—these people are nuts about it! 2 Quote
SirAndrew Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Gregg said: I thought they are passionate about the Lakers and Dodgers. It's not a great football market with the NFL. Maybe college with USC and UCLA. True, but people always give the east coat props, and I’ve always seen the Red Sox and Yankees as being more meaningful to those areas. 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I dunno, growing up in Western Pa, just like Buffalo those folks lived and died by how the Steelers game had gone that week—but I totally agree with you on college ball in the South—these people are nuts about it! Absolutely, I guess I was including Pittsburgh in my idea of Midwest types though, although I suppose it’s not really the Midwest. 2 Quote
BearNorth Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) San Antonio/Austin [The Metropolitan areas abut - 5 MM people] would likely love to have them, but suspect Jerrah would never allow that. Edited December 29, 2023 by BearNorth Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: To be fair, over twice the number of households saw the game in LA. Buffalo is obviously a loyal market, but the NFL wants eyes on the television, regardless of percentages in any given city. The league reached over 700K households in LA. The sheer size of that market is exactly what they wanted, even if only 12% of the city cared. I don't know the numbers on other large markets but is 700,000 a good number with a city the size of LA? What does NYC, Chicago, Boston and Dallas do for household viewership? 1 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: True, but people always give the east coat props, and I’ve always seen the Red Sox and Yankees as being more meaningful to those areas. Absolutely, I guess I was including Pittsburgh in my idea of Midwest types though, although I suppose it’s not really the Midwest. If you polled Western Pa people, they all consider the Ohio border to be the starting gateway to the Midwest--they still consider themselves to be northeasterners, even if barely across the line. 😀 Edited December 29, 2023 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 No one cares about the Chargers. Except that one tiny Asian female that was paid to be a fan. 3 Quote
Fleezoid Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 L.A. has had the Rams, the Raiders, the Rams, the Raiders, the Rams (I think that's too many, but you get the point) and now the Chargers. Quote
stevestojan Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Having now lived in California for just over a year, I can tell you this goes for sports in general out here. It isn’t uncommon to meet people who just don’t care about sports in general; rarer still to find die hard fans of any CA team (most die hard are transplants like myself, rooting for other teams). I’m convinced even lakers fans are there for the merchandise. Of the 7 cities/areas of the country I’ve lived in, it’s not even close for lack of true fanatics. That said, I’m about to go for a nice long walk with my dog; might need a light jacket since it’s only expecting a high of 65 today. 1 Quote
Gugny Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Besides playing in a stunning yet loud stadium, the Charger experience felt like a minor league baseball game. I'm surprised there weren't sausages running across the field. They should've figured it out and made it work in SD. Shoving the Chargers in LA with little fan base is pathetic. There were 22 sausages on the field all game long! Quote
dpberr Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 The NFL has too many teams. LA, and California generally, have too many NFL teams. The Chargers seem like the perfect relocation team. Quote
peterpan Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 The nfl is stupid. Rand should have stayed in St Louis Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 San Diego didn't care about them either, so they should feel right at home. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Charger fans much more successful in their boycott against Peacock than us Bills fans. Quote
Marv Levy Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Wish The Chargers never left San Diego. It was a terrible decision to do so. 1 Quote
DrBob806 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: When all of these teams were moving a few years back. St. Louis Rams to the LA Rams. The Oakland Raiders to the Vegas Raiders. The San Diego Chargers to the LA Chargers. If the league wanted two teams in LA (which isn't a great NFL market to begin with) then it should have been the Rams and Raiders in LA. The Rams have a long history in LA, and they do have a fanbase there. The Raiders also have some history in LA and also have a fanbase there. The Chargers have neither a history with LA nor a fanbase there. The Chargers would have been better off in Vegas and building a fanbase in that market as they would be the only team representing Vegas. Basically, starting over in the sin city. Actually the Chargers started out in LA in the original AFL in 1960. They only played one season there and moved to San Diego in 1961. Here's another weird thing to me....Stan Kroenke moves the Rams to LA, his wife is a Walmart heiress. The Denver Broncos were bought by another Walmart group. How in the hell is that legal to have two Walmart-owned NFL teams? 1 1 1 Quote
Gregg Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, DrBob806 said: Actually the Chargers started out in LA in the original AFL in 1960. They only played one season there and moved to San Diego in 1961. Here's another weird thing to me....Stan Kroenke moves the Rams to LA, his wife is a Walmart heiress. The Denver Broncos were bought by another Walmart group. How in the hell is that legal to have two Walmart-owned NFL teams? Thanks. I didn't know that. 1 Quote
foreboding Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, stevens273 said: True. I was there. SoFi could be the 8th wonder of the world, with a AAA baseball team experience. Very few Charger fans, horrendous PA announcer. If only they showed replays on the $40,000,000 Jumbotron. They didn’t. I’ve been to two Bills games in San Diego. Crap stadium, excellent experience. San Diego deserves them back. Crazy that a beautiful place like SD can't have a team. Too bad. Quote
Saxum Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: No one cares about the Chargers. Except that one tiny Asian female that was paid to be a fan. pic? Quote
K-9 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: To be fair, over twice the number of households saw the game in LA. Buffalo is obviously a loyal market, but the NFL wants eyes on the television, regardless of percentages in any given city. The league reached over 700K households in LA. The sheer size of that market is exactly what they wanted, even if only 12% of the city cared. The league may be ok with the number of eyes, but the advertisers who pay a premium rate during NFL broadcasts certainly aren’t. For advertisers, it’s all about the percentage of viewers tuned in during a particular broadcast in a particular market. LA has never been strong in that regard and the local affiliates have never been too happy about it, either. It’s a tough pill to swallow when Sunday matinee movies and reruns of Gilligan’s Island draw more eyes for advertisers paying far cheaper ad rates. Edited December 29, 2023 by K-9 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Wait, you’re telling me that 5-9 Chargers, coming off giving up 63 points; starting Easton Stick; coached by a guy named Giff; without Keenan Allen, weren’t in demand on a Saturday night in LA??? Shocked I tell you!!! 1 2 Quote
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