LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: For the "remarkable performance" standard Isn't making the team, being active, making a tackle, kind of remarkable for where he was at about a year ago I get both sides but I think that constitutes as remarkable performance as it is and should be all relative It's definitely all relative and the NFL is gonna use the award to shed light on a more remarkable story, as well as the people involved. 2 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: he didn't "literally die on the field" Hamlin is going to write a book where he saw a "bright light" on the sidelines and was drawn to the the light. 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Damar was dead. Now he's on an NFL roster. Gets my vote. 1 Quote
BuffBillsForLife Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Damar is a great story but he is not great at football. Joe Flacco is giving the Browns a legitimate shot at the superbowl after being on his couch 5 weeks ago. Give it to Flacco. 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Hamlin is going to write a book where he saw a "bright light" on the sidelines and was drawn to the the light. all are welcome, all are welcome.... 34 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's definitely all relative and the NFL is gonna use the award to shed light on a more remarkable story, as well as the people involved. I think they have been shedding light on that story for a solid year.... 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Damar was dead. Now he's on an NFL roster. Gets my vote. Flacco's career was dead, now he got a team into the playoffs. 1 Quote
julian Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Damar is a story the NFL will milk just as they’re squeezing every ounce outta Taylor Swift. Baker or Flacco more deserving. Quote
nedboy7 Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 I love Damar and his story but I think this has to go to someone who actually made an impact on the team they returned to. 1 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I think they have been shedding light on that story for a solid year.... Exactly Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Flacco deserves it. Hamlin hasn't really come back. He has had near zero impact this year. It's a great story but the award is for having an impact on the field. Hamlin hasn't. 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Warcodered said: In a way he did die, when his heart stopped it wasn't going to start beating on it's own. He was effectively dead but his body was in good enough working order still that they were able to work on him and jump start his heart and he was able to come back. Clinical death means permanent cessation of all circulatory, respiratory and brain activity. He was by no means “dead” on the field. Lack of intervention would have lead to death.. 29 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Flacco deserves it. Hamlin hasn't really come back. He has had near zero impact this year. It's a great story but the award is for having an impact on the field. Hamlin hasn't. Had Damar come back and earned a starting spot on the roster, then there would be no debate here. 1 Quote
Airseven Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Hamlin didn’t die on the field. He was out of the hospital in a week. He became a household name and made plenty of money from the incident. Good for him. He certainly doesn’t need an award for it. Quote
Charles Romes Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Kyle Brandt came out and said that Damar has already received enough accolades. I agree with this take. nonetheless, if he loses at awards night it will be as awkward as when Fitzgerald and Eli were awarded co-man of the year, leaving the third nominee just sitting there. Quote
djp14150 Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Similar to why MVP=best QB. the fact he almost died and didn’t retire, but return to play, speaks much more than stats. Edited December 30, 2023 by djp14150 1 Quote
QCity Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Flacco deserves it. Hamlin hasn't really come back. He has had near zero impact this year. It's a great story but the award is for having an impact on the field. Hamlin hasn't. It's a tough choice. Joe Flacco - sucked last year and was considered washed, now doesn't suck and is leading a playoff push. Damar Hamlin - almost died on field, now currently is not dead. Quote
DCofNC Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Damar is a nice story, but he was and still is a fringe NFL player at best. Were the roster being evaluated/selected purely on ability to contribute, he’s probably out of the NFL. Tua would be my choice, the guy was knocked out several times last year and it looked like his career could be over and he’s back as one of the best in the game without injury this year. Flacco is another obvious choice. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Warcodered said: In a way he did die, when his heart stopped it wasn't going to start beating on it's own. He was effectively dead but his body was in good enough working order still that they were able to work on him and jump start his heart and he was able to come back. A former coworker of mine had his heart stopped [Sudden cardiac arrest (SCA)] while he was in the dentist chair. The dentist had been trained and restarted his heart. He was prohibited from flying (like Poyer) and on Christmas eve I was called and asked if my passport was still valid which I confirmed; I was sent on day after Christmas to Yokota Air Base in Japan to lead install. 1 Quote
chongli Posted December 30, 2023 Author Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: A former coworker of mine had his heart stopped [Sudden cardiac arrest (SCA)] while he was in the dentist chair. The dentist had been trained and restarted his heart. He was prohibited from flying (like Poyer) and on Christmas eve I was called and asked if my passport was still valid which I confirmed; I was sent on day after Christmas to Yokota Air Base in Japan to lead install. Damn...you have had some very interesting and very useful jobs! This, and also at Amazon (mentioned in the other thread). Sounds challenging and rewarding. Very nice. Edited December 30, 2023 by chongli Quote
Punch Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Flacco has turned the ball over 9 times in 5 games. I'm not saying that disqualifies him, but that's a lot. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Saw some on Twitter suggest they rename the award the "Damar Hamlin Comeback Player of the Year" award and give it to someone that had a more impactful comeback in the field. I don't hate that idea. 1 Quote
Brandon Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 If I had a vote, it would be for Baker Mayfield. He was basically discarded as trash by the Browns and two years later has re-emerged as one of the best QBs in the NFC. Quote
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