Alaska Darin Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I have been thinking. 357281[/snapback] You're giving yourself alot of undue credit.
VABills Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 You're giving yourself alot of undue credit. 357285[/snapback] You're so cute when your angry. Go gaffe a baby seal, you'll feel much better.
Alaska Darin Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 You're so cute when your angry. Go gaffe a baby seal, you'll feel much better. 357296[/snapback] I'm stepping on a cat right now.
erynthered Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 Stay out of it before you get hurt. 357284[/snapback] Well, quit punching me in the shins
VABills Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I'm stepping on a cat right now. 357301[/snapback] That's better. Seal don't squeal as much. Just to hear that hissing and spitting makes it better.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 14, 2005 Posted June 14, 2005 I would jump in VA... But, God knows you wouldn't want that. The stigma of agreeing with would be too much! Go easy on him people... We disagree on a lot... Or, do we?
Bill from NYC Posted June 14, 2005 Posted June 14, 2005 A legal action, as it were. 357166[/snapback] UPDATE: Gov. Pataki came out against this legislation. He claims to be not comfortable telling people what to do and not do behind closed doors. Sounds good, but for about a decade, he was against the current smoking ban.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 14, 2005 Posted June 14, 2005 UPDATE: Gov. Pataki came out against this legislation. He claims to be not comfortable telling people what to do and not do behind closed doors. Sounds good, but for about a decade, he was against the current smoking ban. 358123[/snapback] What seems to be the problem with telling people what to do? It happens everyday in this country... Watch next time a cop pulls over a car, the searches are ridicules... But that is okay? I simply view it as, if you are harming somebody else with your actions, the burden is ON YOU to correct your action. The victimizer CAN'T be the victim. Nothing is perfect in this world, we are all harming somebody, one way or another. Comes down to common courtesy... Unfortunately, they try to legislate that... It doesn't have to be that way. My father-in-law tells a story when he was young and lit up a cigar after a meal while out eating... Well, some lady made a loud proclaimation: "Who, the HELL lit up a cigar!"... Not that my father-in-law considered it, he didn't, he was clueless to the effect he had on others... To make a long story short, he was never that "clueless" again... He would show courtesy to others from that point on. And no he WASN'T GIVING IN... He was showing common courtesy. Think that happens in today's "in your face" society? Ha!
Alaska Darin Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Well, some lady made a loud proclaimation: "Who, the HELL lit up a cigar!"... 358745[/snapback] Uh, it sounds like the woman of yesteryear would fit in just fine in today's "In Your Face" society.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Uh, it sounds like the woman of yesteryear would fit in just fine in today's "In Your Face" society. 358823[/snapback] No. I don't consider it that way. She was correcting an individual with total lack of regard for others. Call that in your face if you want. I call it speaking out to correct someone's lack of common courtesy. Remember here, the cigar smoker wasn't just minding his business... He was being a nusance. That nusance just so happens to be a health risk for others. "In your face", would have been to puff away. It all comes down to power. Nobody has the power to harm another arbitrarily.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Why is it unlawful to smoke in a theater? Fill your gasoline in an unapproved container? Etc... etc... Do things gotta burn or blow up before your eyes to realize it is wrong and may harm others?
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 It also comes down to being a person of honor. When told to stop doing something that is harming another, they stop. Unfortunately, we don't live in a society that likes to yield to anyone. I wonder why? Then, in a half-hearted attempt, legislative acts start to take over in place of that honor. I am not saying it (the laws) work but, they (the laws) attempt to fill the void left by the shortcomings of society at a personal level.
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