Utah John Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 $37M is a lot to pay a middle-tier QB who's aged well past his prime. They probably figure they can sign a young QB for a third of that amount and get just as good production. Sure there will be a cap hit when they cut him but there would be one sooner or later, so why not just take the hit now and get it over with. The Denver trade with Seattle was a disaster for Denver. Just like the Seattle trade with the Jets for Adams was a disaster for the Seahawks. I think the Broncos went all in on winning last year, have been reeling through a hangover this year, and for a New Year's resolution they're going to be good from now on. 1 Quote
reddogblitz Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: Did. Not. See. that. coming. Is there precedent for a team benching their starter when they are still mathematically alive for the playoffs? I grant that after the last two losses, their odds are apparently very low https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-playoff-picture-broncos-arent-technically-eliminated-yet/ar-AA1m2PHq Not sure but I do know of a team that benched their starter going into the playoffs. 2 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Honestly, we see why they never let Russ cook. Dude is just a game manager. Payton looks very overrated as well though. might be the worst trade in history given the cost and his salary. his ego is too big to not be a problem as a backup. I could see the Steelers kicking the tires on him. He actually might be a good fit there. 2 Quote
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 The Jets are in the washed up QB business…you can always count on them to do something stupid. 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 4 hours ago, peterpan said: What do they mean by “preserving financial flexibility for the off-season” does benching him this season save them money somehow? Yes, if he is injured and fails a March physical, a $39 mill bonus guarantee kicks in Quote
Saxum Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: I see him as a washed QB who has to have the right system to be average. No team is going through all that for a 1-2 year bandaid. Especially with his reputation of being a diva (competing with his wife) and someone who cannot teach his skills to a newbee I cannot see him being resigned unless it is a coach who has worked well with him before. 1 Quote
boater Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Who has a bigger problem? the Broncos with Wilson (5 yrs/$245 mil) or, the Bills with Von Miller (6 yrs/$120 mil) Seems to me that the Broncos have the much bigger problem. Though, neither position is enviable. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 this is pretty wild---force feeding him yet another contract renegotiation all season. he rightly says no, we signed a contract. now they are willing to toss a chance at the playoffs to POSSIBLY save money down the road. Where is the NFLPA? lol 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, boater said: Who has a bigger problem? the Broncos with Wilson (5 yrs/$245 mil) or, the Bills with Von Miller (6 yrs/$120 mil) Seems to me that the Broncos have the much bigger problem. Though, neither position is enviable. Bills deal with Von is essentially a 3 year deal as structured. Was never intended for him to be a Bill past that. With legal issues , maybe he’s gone a year early. Wilson deal is worse. Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They are running a varient of the Shanny offense too. That requires playing WITHIN structue. Right. I forgot to add that as the main reason they wouldn’t consider Wilson as that’s not his strong suit. Quote
transient Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 6 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Let Russ simmer Russell… please pack your knives and go. 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, transient said: Russell… please pack your knives and go. 1 Quote
K D Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Zach Wilson, beats the Bills gets benched Mac Jones, beats the Bills gets benched Russel Wilson, beats the Bills gets benched How is it that the Bills are the highlight of the season for these bums? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Zach Wilson, beats the Bills gets benched Mac Jones, beats the Bills gets benched Russel Wilson, beats the Bills gets benched How is it that the Bills are the highlight of the season for these bums? Broncos are 6-3 after a 1-5 start. Quote
HappyDays Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 So there you go, this was Payton's plan all along. He was just waiting for the right moment. Quote
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) Russ' strength is evading pressure and hitting a guy in the hands long. When he was in Seattle they called the play in the huddle and practiced it in practice. He can't throw over the middle cuz he's too short and can't see over the DLine. Yet Coach Hackett and now Coach Payton have tried to shoehorn him into dink 'n dunk offense with bad results. If you want Russ to be successful on your team, have a good run game. Get him on some roll outs. Practice and then call the scramble drill once every 6 or 7 plays. Edited December 28, 2023 by reddogblitz Quote
Chicken Boo Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 4 hours ago, H2o said: I think Pete Carroll was an absolute genius who was able to mask Russ' deficiencies over the years while in Seattle and then "sold high" while he could. Look at what Carroll turned Geno into after being a career JAG. Give Russ a little more credit than that. It was just 2020 when he threw 4200 yards and 40 TD passes. In 2018, "out of the 5,286 total yards the Seahawks offense accumulated, Wilson accounted for 4,571 of them. Wilson was responsible for an astonishing 86 percent of Seattle’s total offensive output for the season, which is an NFL record." He was great, once upon a time. 2 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: this is pretty wild---force feeding him yet another contract renegotiation all season. he rightly says no, we signed a contract. now they are willing to toss a chance at the playoffs to POSSIBLY save money down the road. Where is the NFLPA? lol A contract he’s wildly underperforming and a playoff shot that is quite slim… 1 Quote
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