Broncos benching Wilson

[Stevie Ray]

  On 12/27/2023 at 7:19 PM, peterpan said:

What do they mean by “preserving financial flexibility for the off-season” 

 

does benching him this season save them money somehow?  

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It saves them from the risk of him being injured and they have to pay a $37 mil guarantee. But it is a strange way to word it.

[Airseven]

A bolder prediction for Wilson would've been that he bounces back to pre-2021 production.

[Draconator]

Why will it not surprise me if it comes out that Peyton benched Wilson without checking with the owner, and the owner overrules Peyton, and a report comes out in the next couple of days that Wilson will start?

[mrags]

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:46 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

26 TDs - 8 INT

3000+ yards

66%
7-8 as a starter

 

Yea he sounds like the problem. 

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  On 12/27/2023 at 6:03 PM, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Arent those Lamar Jackson numbers? 😈

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So what you’re saying is, Wilson is an MVP candidate. Clearly another QB more worthy than Allen. 

[The Frankish Reich]

  On 12/27/2023 at 6:40 PM, WotAGuy said:

Broncos missed a chance to tank for a franchise guy.

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Yep. That (and of course the contract extension) was the real harm of the trade for Russ.

[BuffaloBillyG]

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:25 PM, ganesh said:

I can definitely see them going after Kirk Cousins

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Oddly enough, I see the Vikings being in on Russ Wilson. 

[14774]

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:02 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

Russ has actually had a pretty decent season for the most part even though he's asked to do a lot of things outside his skillet. 

 

Payton was always going to get rid of him after this year and get "his guy".

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Skillet....LMAO

Perfect screw-up.🤣

[Ethan in Cleveland]

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:24 PM, Beck Water said:

 

Did. Not. See. that. coming.

 

Is there precedent for a team benching their starter when they are still mathematically alive for the playoffs?

I grant that after the last two losses, their odds are apparently very low

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-playoff-picture-broncos-arent-technically-eliminated-yet/ar-AA1m2PHq

 

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Lol...Google McDermott Tyrod and Peterman and see what comes up

[dave mcbride]

  On 12/27/2023 at 6:43 PM, Beck Water said:

 

Fair points.  Agree completely on the impact of sacks - some coaches rate them as similar to a turnover.  But, I hadn't watched enough Broncos games to have a sense of whether Wilson was at fault or whether they were expecting him to operate behind scraps and turnstiles on OL.  

 

I had the impression, the latter, but there may well be designed hot reads Wilson isn't taking, as well - he certainly had a pattern as a Seattle QB of ignoring the hot read to try to extend plays and create.  (As Allen has done at times)

 

He does have 10 fumbles, only 5 fumbles lost FWIW.

 

The thing is, if they're going to bite the bullet, eat the massive dead cap next year, and move on from Wilson, What's the Plan at QB?  They've been a bit too successful to draft a QB high.  They still owe the Saints their 2nd round pick this year as part of the trade for Sean Payton so their maneuvering room in the draft will be limited.

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No argument from me! If I wanted to win the next two games, I'd have started him. But maybe they think the season is effectively over given all of the 8-7 teams, the Bills, and Browns. 

 

The one intriguing QB option would be signing Kirk Cousins, who is a FA and is the definition of an efficient system qb.

[DaggersEOD]

  On 12/27/2023 at 6:17 PM, H2o said:

This is one of those deals where the stats don't tell the whole story. Russ is a vet. He should be able to pick up on things fairly quick at this point as there isn't much he has not seen. He's having a problem running Sean Payton's offense the way Sean wants it run. He also misses wide open WR's on the field an awful lot, and has since he arrived in Denver. Can't tell you how many times he's had guys wide open for what would have been drive extending plays, chunk plays, or TD's and he just doesn't see them. He's also holding onto the ball, A LOT, and it's led to him being sacked 3 times a game on average. This doesn't count how many other pressures or hits he takes because he's back there looking clueless at times. 

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Makes you wonder if, like an old boxer, the hits are starting the catch up with Russ 😕

[John from Riverside]

I’m trying to feel bad for Russell Wilson, but then I remember that he can fill up a swimming pool with money and go diving
 

Payton can’t stand the guy sitting there screaming at you starting QB like that like a little child

[Chicken Boo]

I wonder how this is sitting with the locker room?

 

Gotta say, I had high hopes for the Broncos with Wilson and again when Payton was hired.  

 

I was dead wrong.  

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:25 PM, ganesh said:

I can definitely see them going after Kirk Cousins

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Cousins is going to have a very hot market for his services.  

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

  On 12/27/2023 at 7:52 PM, Chicken Boo said:

I wonder how this is sitting with the locker room?

 

Gotta say, I had high hopes for the Broncos with Wilson and again when Payton was hired.  

 

I was dead wrong.  

 

Cousins is going to have a very hot market for his services.  

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They actually achieved more than I thought possible this season … they had a respectable shot at a playoff berth prior to last week’s debacle.  And yes, Cousins will be the biggest veteran name available-couldn’t stand him until I watched “Quarterback”.  Now I’m pulling for a nice comeback from injury 

[H2o]

  On 12/27/2023 at 7:48 PM, DaggersEOD said:

Makes you wonder if, like an old boxer, the hits are starting the catch up with Russ 😕

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I think Pete Carroll was an absolute genius who was able to mask Russ' deficiencies over the years while in Seattle and then "sold high" while he could. Look at what Carroll turned Geno into after being a career JAG. 

[Blackbeard]

Jets bringing in for backup to Rogers.

 

😁

[Irv]

Wilson has an obvious calcium deposit on his Medulla Oblongata. Career threatening.  

[Doc Brown]

  On 12/27/2023 at 7:27 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

Oddly enough, I see the Vikings being in on Russ Wilson. 

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No.  They really like Kirk Cousins because he runs that system very well.  He can't play out of structure like Wilson but they seem to be willing to live with that with Cousins.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

 

[ganesh]

  On 12/27/2023 at 5:40 PM, RoyBatty is alive said:

They didnt hire Sean Peyton and pay him up to  $100 million to get 26 TD/8 int season out of Wilson, it was a grand slam contract, either he gets  the Broncos to  win playoff game or two or not.  He likely wont even make the playoffs.  Hiring Payton was, a disaster imo.

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This is his first year to fix the team.  Give him a few years and a stable QB and he will figure out how to compete with the Chiefs

[GunnerBill]

  On 12/27/2023 at 8:38 PM, Doc Brown said:

No.  They really like Kirk Cousins because he runs that system very well.  He can't play out of structure like Wilson but they seem to be willing to live with that with Cousins.

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They are running a varient of the Shanny offense too. That requires playing WITHIN structue.