julian Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Don’t turn the ball over and the game isn’t close, -3 in turnovers gives you a 5% chance of winning, thankfully we have JA17. That being said, turn the ball over in the playoffs and you go home so hold onto the ball and win a chip. 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Full of excuses. This game shouldn't even have been close. Stop with your non sense. Celebrate the ugly win but stop with the excuses. If the Bills play this quality of football they will be on vacation soon. Let's hope, some AFC teams competing with the Bills playoff hopes lose. Miami, Jags, Denver, Houston, and Indy... Let's hope the Bills execute better and play well down the stretch. All in all it was a huge win! I mean it’s a real thing so I think you went a little too hard on him haha interim coaches have a winning record and they all took over for coaches that got fired And look at someone like Josh Dobbs who went off for a few games before there was film of him in the minny offense then he got absolutely destroyed and promptly benched obviously you’re entitled to call it whatever you want it’s certainly up to personal interpretation 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I mean it’s a real thing so I think you went a little too hard on him haha interim coaches have a winning record and they all took over for coaches that got fired And look at someone like Josh Dobbs who went off for a few games before there was film of him in the minny offense then he got absolutely destroyed and promptly benched obviously you’re entitled to call it whatever you want it’s certainly up to personal interpretation The Chargers were without Herbert, Allen, and Bosa. They were 13 point favorites in the game. This game wasn't supposed to be close. I was expecting a much easier game for the Bills. I think it's safe to say not many here thought of that game script. 1 hour ago, nucci said: No, it wasn't The title of this thread is ridiculous. If anything it was the Bills Super Bowl or at least the playoffs. Edited December 24, 2023 by newcam2012 1 1 Quote
BRH Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: Was just listening to McD’s postgame press conference and he mentioned that the Chargers were doing some things they haven’t done all year. Wasn’t on film. That’s another reason why teams get an interim coach bump. And why Staley was that bad. 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 7 hours ago, JohnNord said: It’s just that Chargers played tough, the Bills had a ton of penalties and turned the ball over twice in the own territory and once near midfield. Still the result of those turnovers were 13 points. My concern is that the offense looked very disjointed again. Bad performance by the OL and Diggs just doesn’t look the same. Diggs may be cooked for the year Quote
UKBillFan Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: Was just listening to McD’s postgame press conference and he mentioned that the Chargers were doing some things they haven’t done all year. Wasn’t on film. That’s another reason why teams get an interim coach bump. The Chargers having a new coach was not the key change behind Harty and Cook fumbling, nor Josh underthrowing for an interception (or being off with his receivers). These have happened against teams who have not changed their HC coming into Bills week. It's a carelessness with the ball which has haunted them for most of the season and, as much as we hoped they would have learned from it, they simply haven't. 1 Quote
Xwnyer Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Hoping the games Sunday help our position. A loss by Fins, Texans and Colts be a great Christmas present 1 1 Quote
JoshAllin Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 The Chargers imaginary Super Bowl vs the Bills actual playoff lives 1 Quote
nucci Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: The Chargers having a new coach was not the key change behind Harty and Cook fumbling, nor Josh underthrowing for an interception (or being off with his receivers). These have happened against teams who have not changed their HC coming into Bills week. It's a carelessness with the ball which has haunted them for most of the season and, as much as we hoped they would have learned from it, they simply haven't. and penalties that wiped out big gains and first downs 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Einstein said: And they lost. Think about it - A team with nothing to lose - 12 point underdogs (feel disrespected) - Just had 8 days off and are playing at home (while we had to fly across the country with only 5 days off) - Get the Interim head coach bump - Fired up players that want to impress for next years coaching staff All of that is a dangerous combo. Most teams wouldn’t have looked their best today against the Chargers. They came out punching, we gave them three extra drives (turnovers), and we still won. how many times did we see the Super Bowl patriots teams over the years pull close wins out of their butt? Many, many times. I know a lot of you probably feel a little down after that performance. Don’t. We are nine and six, and we control our own destiny. GO BILLS!!! HEY EY EY EY. Agreed it was a dangerous combo, and they had nothing to lose and were able to have approaches nobody had seen on film. It was a tough game for us and a big game for them. But IMO it's really really overstating it to say that was their Super Bowl. It wasn't. It was a very important game for them. But "players want to impress next year's coaching staff"? That's every player, every game, every year. Overall I agree. If we'd lost, those excuses wouldn't have held up. Having won, they do, they are legit reasons the Chargers were able to keep it close. Edited December 24, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 1 Quote
nucci Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Agreed it was a dangerous combo, and they had nothing to lose and were able to have approaches nobody had seen on film. It was a tough game for us and a big game for them. But IMO it's really really overstating it to say that was their Super Bowl. It wasn't. It was a very important game for them. But "players want to impress next year's coaching staff"? That's every player every year. Overall I agree. If we'd lost, those excuses wouldn't have held up. Having won, they do, they are legit reasons the Chargers were able to keep it close. and most pro athletes just want to win games whenever they play 1 Quote
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: The Chargers were without Herbert, Allen, and Bosa. They were 13 point favorites in the game. This game wasn't supposed to be close. I was expecting a much easier game for the Bills. I think it's safe to say not many here thought of that game script. The title of this thread is ridiculous. That's always the trap with the Bills. We all become emotionally invested and it typically ends with bitter disappointment. The story, win against the Chargers and Pats, Miami, loses 1 of 2, and beat Miami in week 18 and the Bills are AFCE champs again. A wonderful end to an up-and-down challenging regular season as the team enters the playoffs as the hot team. And the bookies set the line at Bills -12.5. What could go wrong? But all long time Bills fan knows better having the experience of falling this type of set-up many times in their life. What experienced skeptic among us expected this game to play out exactly like it did last night? All of us. The Bills a big favorite on the road against a team that just fired their HC comes into the game with an interim HC and a back-up QB. But you knew it was going to be a struggle. They'd make their share of mistakes, turn over the ball, and the possibly of a disappointing loss was hanging in the air all night long. The great thing is they won. A W is a W and there's no extra credit or style points awarded in the standings. And the story lives for next week. And now we can relax watching the remainder of the games Christmas Eve and Day. Go Bills! Edited December 24, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills Quote
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Agreed it was a dangerous combo, and they had nothing to lose and were able to have approaches nobody had seen on film. It was a tough game for us and a big game for them. But IMO it's really really overstating it to say that was their Super Bowl. It wasn't. It was a very important game for them. But "players want to impress next year's coaching staff"? That's every player, every game, every year. Overall I agree. If we'd lost, those excuses wouldn't have held up. Having won, they do, they are legit reasons the Chargers were able to keep it close. The excuses shouldn't fly whether the Bills won or lost Thurman. This was a much bigger game for the Bills than the Chargers. Let's get real here. Not seeing looks, schemes, or formations from the opponent is no excuse not to execute and make proper adjustments. I'm not buying this hogwash either. The Chargers had a B team offense on the field. A nobody QB and a bunch of mediocre WRs. Eckler whose having a down year was their only legit weapon. The Chargers D is nothing special especially against the run. This Bills team should have steamrolled the Chargers. They were 13 point favorites for a reason. In such a critical game the Bills played sloppy. Three turnovers to zero. The Chargers jumped off to a 10- 0 lead before we could blink. The biggest reason for the win was the Bills defense forced five FGs. They made big stops when they had to. The Bills offense made some key plays to get the go ahead FG. Overall, this was a very poor performance by the Bills. Good enough to beat a bad LA team who is worse than closing out games than Buffalo. Let's take the W and hope the Bills execute and play better. 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That's always the trap with the Bills. We all become emotionally invested and it typically ends with bitter disappointment. The story, win against the Chargers and Pats, Miami, loses 1 of 2, and beat Miami in week 18 and the Bills are AFCE champs again. A wonderful end to an up-and-down challenging regular season as the team enters the playoffs as the hot team. And the bookies set the line at Bills -12.5. What could go wrong? But all long time Bills fan knows better having the experience of falling this type of set-up many times in their life. What experienced skeptic among us expected this game to play out exactly like it did last night? All of us. The Bills a big favorite on the road against a team that just fired their HC comes into the game with an interim HC and a back-up QB. But you knew it was going to be a struggle. They'd make their share of mistakes, turn over the ball, and the possibly of a disappointing loss was hanging in the air all night long. The great thing is they won. A W is a W and there's no extra credit or style points awarded in the standings. And the story lives for next week. And now we can relax watching the remainder of the games Christmas Eve and Day. Go Bills! I was foolish enough to think the game wouldn't be very close. I didn't envision that kind of game. Maybe I'm just not that smart. 1 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Or we just accept the fact this team struggles on the road…. That said next week is our last home game and if the bills have Super Bowl dreams they will need to win 5 straight road games. Edited December 24, 2023 by CEN-CAL17 Quote
colin Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Keep in mind after this game, the chargers are 0-6 in games decided by 3 points or less. That's insane, we have our own bad single score game stats, but even with injuries that team has a ton of talent. They are 42 over the cap next year. This is how 6 of 10 chargers losses went this season. Quote
dave mcbride Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Einstein said: And they lost. Think about it - A team with nothing to lose - 12 point underdogs (feel disrespected) - Just had 8 days off and are playing at home (while we had to fly across the country with only 5 days off) - Get the Interim head coach bump - Fired up players that want to impress for next years coaching staff All of that is a dangerous combo. Most teams wouldn’t have looked their best today against the Chargers. They came out punching, we gave them three extra drives (turnovers), and we still won. how many times did we see the Super Bowl patriots teams over the years pull close wins out of their butt? Many, many times. I know a lot of you probably feel a little down after that performance. Don’t. We are nine and six, and we control our own destiny. GO BILLS!!! HEY EY EY EY. Good post, but I qualify it by saying the Bills effectively had four turnovers. The series with the tripping, holding, and false start penalties plus the deep sack (resulting in 4th and forever) ended up giving the Chargers a much shorter field than expected and they cashed in with a FG. Quote
eball Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Josh didn’t have his best stuff. He inexplicably missed two wide open guys on 3rd downs that ended drives. And yet, when it was needed, he brought them back and his receivers made some great plays. The defense was very solid despite being put in terrible situations, and they actually closed out another game. I’m not going to boo-hoo over this victory. All goals are still in play. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: The excuses shouldn't fly whether the Bills won or lost Thurman. This was a much bigger game for the Bills than the Chargers. Let's get real here. Not seeing looks, schemes, or formations from the opponent is no excuse not to execute and make proper adjustments. I'm not buying this hogwash either. The Chargers had a B team offense on the field. A nobody QB and a bunch of mediocre WRs. Eckler whose having a down year was their only legit weapon. The Chargers D is nothing special especially against the run. This Bills team should have steamrolled the Chargers. They were 13 point favorites for a reason. In such a critical game the Bills played sloppy. Three turnovers to zero. The Chargers jumped off to a 10- 0 lead before we could blink. The biggest reason for the win was the Bills defense forced five FGs. They made big stops when they had to. The Bills offense made some key plays to get the go ahead FG. Overall, this was a very poor performance by the Bills. Good enough to beat a bad LA team who is worse than closing out games than Buffalo. Let's take the W and hope the Bills execute and play better. Oh, bull####. Seriously. When you win, you don't need excuses. Cause you won. When you lose, that's when the excuses don't stand up well. Honest to God, you guys absolutely crack me up. When we win big, you say, "yeah, sure they can win big, but they can't win the close ones." The Bills go win a few close ones and now you're complaining they should have won big. There's no way to win with you folks. There's absolutely always more to complain about. It's nonsense. Quote
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