leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 26 Posted November 26 13 hours ago, 4th&long said: Elections are fair game now. If either side doesn’t try to do what trump did they are stupid. Just tear apart the country and cry like a baby that you won the election They were already fair game, 2016 was all about claims of illegitimate elections. We can go back further to hanging chads and complaints about elections, etc, but that’s just the way it is. Kudos to the democrats for seeing the light here, though part of that may be due to their own internal division and Biden’s dismissal. 13 hours ago, 4th&long said: classified docs? We knew stealing those doesn’t matter, plenty of politicians have stole those and more double agents have sold them to the highest bidder. I agree with you, on politicians anyway. When you treat classified material as an afterthought, where documents are apparently safeguarded like the self-service checkout at Walmart, chaos and confusion surely follow. The good news is that the American people got a real close look at the process, subsequent politicization of the process and sent a pretty strong message in reply. Perhaps safeguards and guardrails will be put in place moving forward.
ChiGoose Posted November 26 Posted November 26 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Chi, you all were fighting to get in line to vote for a guy who disintegrated during a nationally televised debate, stalwart in your belief that a guy clearly in rapid decline was the one true one. That was reality, and it was only one of several absurd positions adopted by your party and why things went the way they did. In the spirit of healing, though, I offer: Dear Mister Fantasy, play us a tune Something to make us all happy Do anything, take us out of this gloom Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy You are the one who can make us all laugh But doing that, you break out in tears Please don't be sad if it was a straight mind you had We wouldn't have known you all these years Elections are binary choices. I didn't want Biden to run for re-election, but I don't get to make that decision. Instead, I had to choose between a buffoon with a long history of crimes and failed businesses; who surrounded himself with criminals, incompetent toadies, and lickspittles; who loves dictators and dislikes our allies; and whose economic plan seems to be designed to raise prices across the board for Americans while sending our economy into the tank, or vote for someone who was not that. Easiest decision in the world. 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I conclude that Smith never really had any intention of bringing Trump to trial on any document handling charges. It was all about creating "optics" for the 2024 Presidential race. If Trump wasn't running for office this would have played out quietly. It was all about politics. The idea was to discredit the former President in the eyes of potential 2024 voters. The made-for-TV drama that was the FBI raid would not have been necessary. Leaking stories and information to create the perception of guilt along the way. Now that he won the election and there are no political points to score its all moot. Smith smartly chose to close out the case. Personally and professionally there's just no upside at this point. If anyone still wants to continue believing it was about the rule of law and the interests of national security pursuant to the handling of confidential and secret information then have at it. That's moot too. Lots of other political figures have gotten away with improper handling of secret and confidential documents, including former Senator Biden, and a consequence of Smith's investigation may be tougher scrutiny and treatment of others in the future. Be careful what you wish for might apply here. This is pure nonsense.
B-Man Posted November 26 Posted November 26 Jack Smith's Pathetic Jihad Comes to a Fitting, Inglorious End Stephen Kruiser FTA: On Monday, the illegally appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith dropped the last of the zombie charges he'd brought against Donald Trump to time with his run for the presidency. The charges for the fedsurrection information operation run by the intelligence community, FBI, Democrats, and others to cause a riot at the Capitol Building and blame Trump for it were dropped. The Democrats may have failed to interfere with the election and keep Trump off the ballot by perverting the law, but that doesn't mean they've lost the appetite for getting crooked judges and prosecutors to go after him — well, judges and prosecutors who aren't employed by the Department of Justice, anyway. Smith and his crew are getting out of Dodge because they know that new sheriff Pam Bondi will not be a fan of theirs. https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2024/11/26/the-morning-briefing-jack-smiths-pathetic-jihad-comes-to-a-fitting-inglorious-end-n4934631
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 26 Posted November 26 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Elections are binary choices. I didn't want Biden to run for re-election, but I don't get to make that decision. Instead, I had to choose between a buffoon with a long history of crimes and failed businesses; who surrounded himself with criminals, incompetent toadies, and lickspittles; who loves dictators and dislikes our allies; and whose economic plan seems to be designed to raise prices across the board for Americans while sending our economy into the tank, or vote for someone who was not that. Easiest decision in the world. Sure, elections offer binary choices, but conversations can go in all sorts of directions. It's interesting that you supported him at all, given your thoughts on tanking the economy. Instead of the lickspittle crew, you preferred a career politician who got really, really confused on how to handle classified documents in spite of his decades in government service, who had a fondness for fondling all sorts of women, who has partnered with everyone from klansmen to Senators known to leave their passengers at the bottom of the bay, who apparently traded influence with our political enemies in exchange for power and money, and who's been a critical cog in pumping up the national debt from roughly $800b in the 1970s to $36 trillion as he prepares to slide into retirement. More Joe probably was the solution. I'm certain there is a world in which one might believe that all of that might have turned around commencing 1/20/25.
B-Man Posted November 26 Posted November 26 WE ALREADY KNEW: Jack Smith’s End Of Lawfare Charges Against Trump Proves It Was A Political Witch Hunt. Special Counsel Jack Smith said on Monday that the evidence against now President-elect Donald Trump in the 2020 election case is rock-solid and that no one is “above the law” — but that he’d nonetheless drop the charges against Trump. But if that’s the case, why bail out now? Surely if Trump is really the criminal mastermind Smith alleges he is, there’s no conscionable way he could drop the charges. The reality is that Smith knows this was never about the law. It was about leftists using lawfare to prosecute and ideally jail their political opponent. Smith still made sure to add a throw-away-line that the decision to drop the case did not “turn on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of the Government’s proof, or the merits of the prosecution, which the Government stands fully behind.” But, Smith added, the Department of Justice concluded that pursuing the case would hinder Trump’s ability to lead. https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/25/jack-smiths-end-of-lawfare-charges-against-trump-proves-it-was-a-political-witch-hunt/
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 26 Posted November 26 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I conclude that Smith never really had any intention of bringing Trump to trial on any document handling charges. It was all about creating "optics" for the 2024 Presidential race. If Trump wasn't running for office this would have played out quietly. It was all about politics. The idea was to discredit the former President in the eyes of potential 2024 voters. The made-for-TV drama that was the FBI raid would not have been necessary. Leaking stories and information to create the perception of guilt along the way. Now that he won the election and there are no political points to score its all moot. Smith smartly chose to close out the case. Personally and professionally there's just no upside at this point. If anyone still wants to continue believing it was about the rule of law and the interests of national security pursuant to the handling of confidential and secret information then have at it. That's moot too. Lots of other political figures have gotten away with improper handling of secret and confidential documents, including former Senator Biden, and a consequence of Smith's investigation may be tougher scrutiny and treatment of others in the future. Be careful what you wish for might apply here. I get your perspective, but am not convinced on this thought process. I certainly believe there was a coordinated attempt by the democrats to destroy Trump, and perhaps the initial plan was just to derail. However, at some point, it seems they believed that the opportunity to completely crash the GOP was afoot, and decided to go full speed ahead. To be fair, half the country was completely on board with all that, and bought into the notion of slippage and laws about classified documents that wobbled and most of the msm outlets were as well. Given the opportunity, I believe they would have put Trump away for life.
Pokebball Posted November 26 Posted November 26 17 hours ago, 4th&long said: Elections are fair game now. If either side doesn’t try to do what trump did they are stupid. Just tear apart the country and cry like a baby that you won the election classified docs? We knew stealing those doesn’t matter, plenty of politicians have stole those and more double agents have sold them to the highest bidder. Fair game NOW? Have you lived under a rock for the past decade or two? 2
BillsFanNC Posted November 30 Author Posted November 30 This will work. Totally. Because those walls be closing! 1
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