PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 I just read this and while I laughed out loud at the fact that the refs did not properly inflate both teams kicking balls (they were 2 pounds under the limit) I also got to thinking.. How could they mess it up that badly on both teams Kicking balls? They said that caused the poor punts and FG attempts in the first half as well as poor kickoffs. They fixed it at half time when both teams complained. 2 Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 I wonder what the betting line was at on Butler missing his first kick of the year... 3 1 Quote
Saxum Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I just read this and while I laughed out loud at the fact that the refs did not properly inflate both teams kicking balls (they were 2 pounds under the limit) I also got to thinking.. How could they mess it up that badly on both teams Kicking balls? They said that caused the poor punts and FG attempts in the first half as well as poor kickoffs. They fixed it at half time when both teams complained. Cheats complained about under deflated balls? Br*dy love(d/s) soft balls. My how things have changed. 4 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Every time I turn around the refs are screwing something else up. 3 Quote
Success Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 The Patriots will always be the team I have the most disdain for - in any sport, and for all time. 1 3 2 Quote
Saxum Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Success said: The Patriots will always be the team I have the most disdain for - in any sport, and for all time. I have as much distain for Bills fans who continue praising them after number of times they cheated playing us. They are just too embarrassed to admit they changed allegiance. 1 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2023 Author Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Cheats complained about under deflated balls? Br*dy love(d/s) soft balls. My how things have changed. Kicking balls and I THINK those are preferred harder than softer.. but I am not sure. 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: Remember! If you think it’s foul play you are conspiracy theorists. No way could humans keep secrets. I thought it showed how truly inept the refs really are. That and how hilarious it was that they screwed up so amazingly for BOTH teams on the same type ball! Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Kicking balls and I THINK those are preferred harder than softer.. but I am not sure. I thought it showed how truly inept the refs really are. That and how hilarious it was that they screwed up so amazingly for BOTH teams on the same type ball! Oh no, kicking balls that are a bit softer have more recoil. They travel much further. I'm sure a pressure exists in which it's too soft, but about the worst thing for a kicker is a very hard max inflated ball. It's like kicking a rock. 1 1 Quote
MJS Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Oh no, kicking balls that are a bit softer have more recoil. They travel much further. I'm sure a pressure exists in which it's too soft, but about the worst thing for a kicker is a very hard max inflated ball. It's like kicking a rock. Kicking them in cold weather hurts, too. The leather gets all hard and I'm pretty sure you can't kick as far. 2 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Brady was the "Pats legend at the game"? 1 Quote
Andrew Son Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Did they hire The Deflator? They only call him that because he lost weight!!! 1 Quote
mykidsdad Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Brady's balls are pretty soft. That's why Giselle left him for the equipment manager. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 Apparently our favorite, Shawn Hochuli, was heading up this crew: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39168591/belichick-says-kicking-balls-chiefs-patriots-underinflated Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 On 12/21/2023 at 12:42 PM, Mikie2times said: Oh no, kicking balls that are a bit softer have more recoil. They travel much further. I'm sure a pressure exists in which it's too soft, but about the worst thing for a kicker is a very hard max inflated ball. It's like kicking a rock. Apparently not. That sounded wonky to me, so I looked it up. "Basically, a little bit of air removed from the ball makes it easier to kick accurately because you get more ball surface in contact with the toe," Timothy Gay, physics professor at the University of Nebraska, told NBC News. "The more air you remove the shorter the range because the ball behaves more like a mattress and less like a stiff spring, so that the kicker expends more energy deforming the ball and less giving it velocity." https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/super-bowl-xlix/pigskin-physics-whats-big-deal-about-deflated-footballs-n290466 Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Apparently not. That sounded wonky to me, so I looked it up. "Basically, a little bit of air removed from the ball makes it easier to kick accurately because you get more ball surface in contact with the toe," Timothy Gay, physics professor at the University of Nebraska, told NBC News. "The more air you remove the shorter the range because the ball behaves more like a mattress and less like a stiff spring, so that the kicker expends more energy deforming the ball and less giving it velocity." https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/super-bowl-xlix/pigskin-physics-whats-big-deal-about-deflated-footballs-n290466 That sounds right. You could really feel the difference. I recall in my high school days asking if we could use our practice balls for kickoffs in games because I could kill those things. You could feel it off your foot right away vs the brand new more heavily inflated balls. Quote
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