OT - Isiah Mckenzie and Tony Brown suspended for remainder of the season

[Beck Water]

18 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

seeing that they purposely killed protected wildlife including bald eagle

seeing that they purposely killed protected wildlife including bald eagle

 

I think the guy who started that rumor is a known parody account on "X"

Guy named "Steve Shubin" aka @kc_truthful posted it on the twitters and the colts reddit forum picked it up

[DrDawkinstein]

I've bagged on McKenzie a lot in the past, but mainly because he's more of a scatterbrained clown (which affects his play) than a bad guy.

 

He isnt a drinker, so the bar fight story doesnt make sense. The rare bird stuff isnt anything the team or NFL would care about this much.

 

I'd bet it's for gambling (pun intended). They probably got caught on some app or something and the team is getting ahead of the NFL.

[Beck Water]

17 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Dunne did include a positive quote from Dirty but that doesn’t necessarily mean everything he said was positive.  Dunne could have used the positive quote as red herring.  

 

Regardless, the Bills know what the ceiling of McKenzie is and I think they are looking for more from a WR5/WR6

 

This is it.  They moved on hoping Deonte Harty was an upgrade.  Doesn't seem to be, but that doesn't mean they'll move back.  They need to keep looking.

[Beck Water]

33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I've bagged on McKenzie a lot in the past, but mainly because he's more of a scatterbrained clown (which affects his play) than a bad guy.

 

He isnt a drinker, so the bar fight story doesnt make sense. The rare bird stuff isnt anything the team or NFL would care about this much.

 

I'd bet it's for gambling (pun intended). They probably got caught on some app or something and the team is getting ahead of the NFL.

 

I think if it were for gambling, the Colts would turn the evidence over to the league and let the league act.  Seems like a violation where the league acts rapidly.

 

Someone else pointed out that McK says he doesn't drink, but he could still have been at a club or bar as the dd or just to hang out.

 

An on field fight that went too far or something in the facility are also options.  The NFL pretty well leaves discipline in those matters to the clubs so the club couldn't sit back and let the league handle the appeal from the NFLPA. 

 

I wonder if there will be an appeal?  Can club actions be appealed?

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Beck Water

[Low Positive]

17 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think if it were for gambling, the Colts would turn the evidence over to the league and let the league act.  Seems like a violation where the league acts rapidly.

 

Someone else pointed out that McK says he doesn't drink, but he could still have been at a club or bar as the dd or just to hang out.

 

An on field fight that went too far or something in the facility are also options.  The NFL pretty well leaves discipline in those matters to the clubs so the club couldn't sit back and let the league handle the appeal from the NFLPA. 

 

I wonder if there will be an appeal?  Can club actions be appealed?

 

There is a strip club in Indy that athletes get in trouble at all the time called Club Rio. I would bet pretty good money that if there was an incident at a "bar" it was there.

[Nitro]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

I'm not sure fumbling a punt return in 2 of his last 4 games is what you want from your kick returner. 

No one wants fumbles.  The locals here in Indy think he is a good returner.

[Airseven]

Harty actually made me miss McKenzie this season. Terrible signing.

 

But what a huge missed opportunity for McKenzie’s career last season and now we’re here unfortunately.

[NickelCity]

I'd have loved to see what Harty could do with a full off-season install from Brady instead of Dorsey. 

[davefan66]

5 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Harty actually made me miss McKenzie this season. Terrible signing.

 

But what a huge missed opportunity for McKenzie’s career last season and now we’re here unfortunately.

Sorry, but no. Harty needs to be better utilized and McKenzie was  terrible end of last season.

Edited December 20, 2023 by davefan66

[JohnNord]

4 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Harty actually made me miss McKenzie this season. Terrible signing.

 

But what a huge missed opportunity for McKenzie’s career last season and now we’re here unfortunately.

Did McKenzie do anything Harty doesn’t?   His receiving stats were better but there also was less competition at slot WR last year.  
 

Not that I think Harty was a HR by any means.  It was a bad signing.  But I don’t feel the Bills really miss McKenzie after we saw what he could do in an expanded role last season.  

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think the guy who started that rumor is a known parody account on "X"

Guy named "Steve Shubin" aka @kc_truthful posted it on the twitters and the colts reddit forum picked it up

 

I do not know when BS became parody.

[The Wiz]

 

[JerseyBills]

4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think the guy who started that rumor is a known parody account on "X"

Guy named "Steve Shubin" aka @kc_truthful posted it on the twitters and the colts reddit forum picked it up

lol ya it did sound kind of bizarre,  I got got

[C.Biscuit97]

When you’re not very good, you should probably work harder to not get in trouble. 
 

Hope his restaurant is good because his nfl career is over. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

 

 

It's about this

 

I don't know what standard procedure is when a player is suspended.  If they bring new guys in, I assume the new guys need lockers so.....is this remarkable, or is it unremarkable?

[Mr. WEO]

On 12/19/2023 at 3:10 PM, Roundybout said:

Take this with a grain of salt, but I did some lurking in Colts fan spaces and the rumor is the two were involved in a pretty nasty bar fight last week. 

 

tell me someone made of with their bottle o Pink Champale....

[Dick_Cheney]

Get it done Beane!!!

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Did McKenzie do anything Harty doesn’t?   His receiving stats were better but there also was less competition at slot WR last year.  
 

Not that I think Harty was a HR by any means.  It was a bad signing.  But I don’t feel the Bills really miss McKenzie after we saw what he could do in an expanded role last season.  

 

Have the Bills used Harty much if at all on those jet sweeps and reverses?  The few I've seen they were trying to use Diggs. 

 

The main thing with Harty when I've seen him is he doesn't look either fast or quick to me.  McKenzie legit had speed.

 

Re: suspension Indy Press trying to find out why.  Steichen not spilling any

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

lol ya it did sound kind of bizarre,  I got got

 

You got company in getting got

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Beck Water

[frostbitmic]

Either McKittrick served up some BBQ Eagle or the two of them got into a locker room brawl with each other ... Or something completely different, i think I've covered all bases.

[MJS]

How is he one of our guys? I don't get it. He plays for another team now, and it isn't like he was ever a good player for us. Just a replacement level guy.