Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” but he ran a 4.6 , however he had great hands and could separate. Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59. Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 . Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 I can’t think of any other tall AND fast WRs . Can you help me list all 6’4” or taller WRs that also ran at least a 4.4 or faster. As of now, this metric appears perfect in determining success. If you are 6’4”+ and run fast, just draft them with confidence. After you help me list all the NFL players, can you help find me some of the tallest and fastest people that don’t play football. Usain Bolt is 6’5” and can run a 4.22 (Super Bowl, retired and in street clothes) . Imagine if he could have trained to be a football player. I wonder if it’s possible to be much taller than 6’5” and being able to run a 4.4 or faster. THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE INPUT! Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 (Elite) Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish (Elite) DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 (Elite) Christian Watson was 6’4” and ran a 4.36 (Good) Marquez Valdez-Scantling was 6’4” and ran a 4.37 (Meh) Stephen Hill was 6’5” and ran a 4.39 (Bad) Keyshawn Johnson was 6’4” and ran a 4.41 (Elite) Miles Boykin was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Bad) Chase Claypool was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Meh) Nico Collins was 6’4” and ran a 4.45 (Good?) Jalen Hurd was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad) AT Perry was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad-Meh?) Equanimeous St. Brown was 6’5” and ran a 4.48 (Meh) James Harty was 6’6” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Dorian Green Beckham was 6’5” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Limas Sweed was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Bad) AJ Green was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Elite) Michael Pittman Jr was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Good) Quentin Johnston was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Meh?) Mike Evans was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Elite) Mike Strachan was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Bad) Courtland Sutton was 6’4” and ran a 4.54 (Good) Allen Lazard was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (meh) Mack Hollins was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh) Justin Shorter was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh?) Donald Hayes was 6’4” and ran a 4.57 (Bad) Drake London was 6’4” and ran a 4.58 (Good?) Tee Higgins was 6’4” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” and ran a 4.6 (Good) Sean Dawkins was 6’4” and ran a 4.61 (Good) Kelvin Benjamin was 6’5” and ran a 4.61 (Bad-Meh) Justyn Ross was 6’4” and ran a 4.64 (Bad?) Irvin Charles was 6’4” and ran a 4.66 (Bad?) Ed McCaffrey was 6’5” and ran a 4.69 (Good) Lil Jordan Humphrey was 6’4” and ran a 4.75 (Bad) Jake Bobo was 6’4” and ran a 4.99 (Bad) It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 2 meh/bad 4 good/elite Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse 1 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. 4 3 Quote
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Calvin Johnson was a cheat code. The best WR I’ve ever seen play and it’s not even close. I don’t care what the arguments are for Rice. Johnson would have destroyed every Rice record if he played 17 years. Which would have been 4 years less than Rice. Dude was a monster. Edited December 19, 2023 by mrags 5 3 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Calvin Johnson was a cheat code. The best WR I’ve ever seen play and it’s not even close. I don’t care what the arguments are for Rice. Johnson would have destroyed every Rice record if he played 17 years. Which would have been 4 years less than Rice. Dude was a monster. I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Mike Evans is 6’5” but he only ran a 4.53 Justin Shorter is 6’4” but runs a 4.55 I’d be curious to see where the statistical success rate for height starts to really tip the scales. I’d definitely consider Evans a success , but is obviously taller and faster than Shorter. Maybe I will try and list all 6’4” + wr and their respective 40 time. Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse Quote
MJS Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 The reason you can name those players is because they were successful. You wouldn't be able to name the bad receivers who were big and fast. 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 Collin Johnson (Giants) is 6’6” but runs a 4.65 , so it’s pretty obvious that anything slower than 4.53 is a danger zone potentially. 1 minute ago, MJS said: The reason you can name those players is because they were successful. You wouldn't be able to name the bad receivers who were big and fast. That’s what I’m asking for you all do to. Help me list all WRs that meet the requirement. Good or Bad Quote
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Yeah that cannot add to. I’ll say this, as a former track athlete and huge fan of Usain Bolt. That man was a freak. It’s not usual to have a man with that height to be that fast/quick. But he was. He just gobbled up the track with his long legs. He was not always the fastest starter out of the blocks but his legs just ate up the track. Usually it’s shorter sprinters that have the quicker movement in their legs. Bolt was something special. Had everything. But that’s why his 200m WR is more impressive than his 100m WR. The 100m records have historically gotten faster and faster over time. But with the exception of Michael Johnson (another long legged freak) the 200m WR has stood since the 1970s. 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 Wanted to draft Equanimeous St. Brown the year we picked Allen. He's almost 6'5" and ran a 4.48 40. We passed on him for Ray-Ray in the 6th. Guess it didn't matter. 2 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Wanted to draft Equanimeous St. Brown the year we picked Allen. He's almost 6'5" and ran a 4.48 40. We passed on him for Ray-Ray in the 6th. Guess it didn't matter. So far that is one good example of a meh player with criteria I asked for. Can you help list some more. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 Stephen Hill was 6'5 210 and ran a 4.39 And he sucked 1 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Stephen Hill was 6'5 210 and ran a 4.39 And he sucked Nice, keep them coming. I’m genuinely curious of all sample sizes, good or bad. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 DGB ( Dorial Green Beckham) #1 HS player in his class Was 6'5 240 .. 4.49 40 Insane physical freak .. didn't care enough about football so he sucked Still drafted high solely on his skillset Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Araiza Curse said: So far that is one good example of a meh player with criteria I asked for. Can you help list some more. Christian Watson. Ran a 4.36 at 6'4". Was fine with the Elam pick at the time but he was my draft crush. 2 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 (Elite) Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish (Elite) DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 (Elite) Christian Watson was 6’4” and ran a 4.36 (Good) Stephen Hill was 6’5” and ran a 4.39 (Sucked) Equanimeous St. Brown was 6’5” and ran a 4.48 (Meh) Dorian Green Beckham was 6’5” and ran a 4.49 (Sucked) Mike Evans was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Elite) Justin Shorter was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Sucked-Meh?) Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” and ran a 4.6 (Good) It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 1 bad 4 good Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 Keep em coming guys, thanks this is fun. Quote
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 He doesn’t meet your criteria of being 6’5” but Brashad Perriman ran something like a 4.25. He’s 6’2” I think. He is like the perfect size and speed package. Seemed to always be nursing something. Or not giving his all. Similar to Sammy boo-boo foot Watkins as far as desire to play the game. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, mrags said: He doesn’t meet your criteria of being 6’5” but Brashad Perriman ran something like a 4.25. He’s 6’2” I think. He is like the perfect size and speed package. Seemed to always be nursing something. Or not giving his all. Similar to Sammy boo-boo foot Watkins as far as desire to play the game. 6’4” or taller. But yeah he is talented, and I don’t mind discussing it, just trying to compile a list of all samples. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 Chris collinsworth was 6'5 with a 40 in the 4.50s Make of him what you will ... Lmao But he could play for a stint Quote
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 38 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Pull a CSV file from pro football reference. 2 Quote
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