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"We must all be alike. Not everyone born free and equal, as the constitution says, but everyone made equal…"

Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

 

It seems I am stumbling with the term “diversity.” Isn’t that what all the fuss is about these days? Everyone seems to want to be identified and seen as unique, but at the same time they wish to have no uniqueness at all. The culture seems to be wanting to cancel out any thought, thing, idea, concept, skill, culture, biology, gender/sex, that claims uniqueness, a strength or weakness, a difference good or bad, but at the same time wants a unique title for all this as well as a recognized exclusivity. Inclusivity and exclusivity: there seems to be no tolerance for sameness, but also no tolerance for difference. Now THAT’S the formula for a mess.

 

"Cant be a pimp and a prostitute too."

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


Caveat; only if you can afford to be terminated or have old school leadership that doesn’t buy into the BS

When it's a requirement of both the institutional investors (black rock) and Huge political PACS like HRC, that will rank you accordingly. Compliance is not a choice.

 

all the diversity groups parrot the same exact thing as they do the same exact thing, while allowing no alternative viewpoints.  Its not very diverse of thought or idea.

 

it's just the same Robin Deangelo tripe parroted over and over again.

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

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Do you believe the most qualified should be hired no matter the race? Or should under qualified minorities be hired over higher qualified whites?

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27 minutes ago, BillStime said:

LMAO - the cult has moved on from the last boogeyman (CRT) to a new one.

 

Racists fks.

Aw.  Always ad hominem.  

 

They are both kinda tied together.  About revisionist history that can't be argued and make a few a lot of cash.  

 

You actually take a dei class?  Read DeAngelo?  

 

 

 

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People Don't Actually Want Equality. They Want Fairness. - Evonomics

 

Bernie Sanders talks about economic inequality all the time, and it’s a message that resonates. You don’t need to be a socialist to worry about the divide between rich and poor in America. Many Americans across the political spectrum claim to be deeply troubled by economic inequality, and many say they support changes that would yield a more equal distribution of income and wealth.

But in his just-published book, On Inequality, the philosopher Harry Frankfurt argues that economic equality has no intrinsic value. This is a moral claim, but it’s also a psychological one: Frankfurt suggests that if people take the time to reflect, they’ll realize that inequality isn’t really what’s bothering them.

People might be troubled by what they see as unjust causes of economic inequality, a perfectly reasonable concern given how much your income and wealth are determined by accidents of birth, including how much money your parents had, your sex, and the color of your skin. We are troubled as well by potential consequences of economic inequality. We may think it corrodes democracy, or increases crime, or diminishes overall happiness. Most of all, people worry about poverty—not that some have less, but rather “that those with less have too little.”

 

Frankfurt argues, though, that we aren’t really bothered by inequality for its own sake. He points out that few worry about inequalities between the very rich and the very well off, even though these might be greater, both absolutely and proportionately, than inequalities between the moderately well-off and the poor. A world in which everyone suffered from horrible poverty would be a perfectly equal one, he says, but few would prefer that to the world in which we now live. Therefore, “equality” can’t be what we really value.

 

Some of Frankfurt’s arguments get technical, but it’s not hard to think of cases where a mistaken focus on equality makes the world worse. My favorite example here is from the comedian Louis C.K., where he describes how his five-year-old’s toy broke and she demanded that he break her sister’s toy, which would make things equal. “And I did. I was like crying. And I look at her. She’s got this creepy smile on her face.”

Can Frankfurt really be right that people don’t value economic equality for its own sake? Many scholars believe otherwise. The primatologist Frans de Waal sums up a popular view when he writes: “Robin Hood had it right. Humanity’s deepest wish is to spread the wealth.”

 

Fairness

People Don’t Actually Want Equality. They Want Fairness.

The invisible hand of egalitarianism.

By Paul Bloom

Bernie Sanders talks about economic inequality all the time, and it’s a message that resonates. You don’t need to be a socialist to worry about the divide between rich and poor in America. Many Americans across the political spectrum claim to be deeply troubled by economic inequality, and many say they support changes that would yield a more equal distribution of income and wealth.

But in his just-published book, On Inequality, the philosopher Harry Frankfurt argues that economic equality has no intrinsic value. This is a moral claim, but it’s also a psychological one: Frankfurt suggests that if people take the time to reflect, they’ll realize that inequality isn’t really what’s bothering them.

People might be troubled by what they see as unjust causes of economic inequality, a perfectly reasonable concern given how much your income and wealth are determined by accidents of birth, including how much money your parents had, your sex, and the color of your skin. We are troubled as well by potential consequences of economic inequality. We may think it corrodes democracy, or increases crime, or diminishes overall happiness. Most of all, people worry about poverty—not that some have less, but rather “that those with less have too little.”

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Frankfurt argues, though, that we aren’t really bothered by inequality for its own sake. He points out that few worry about inequalities between the very rich and the very well off, even though these might be greater, both absolutely and proportionately, than inequalities between the moderately well-off and the poor. A world in which everyone suffered from horrible poverty would be a perfectly equal one, he says, but few would prefer that to the world in which we now live. Therefore, “equality” can’t be what we really value.

Some of Frankfurt’s arguments get technical, but it’s not hard to think of cases where a mistaken focus on equality makes the world worse. My favorite example here is from the comedian Louis C.K., where he describes how his five-year-old’s toy broke and she demanded that he break her sister’s toy, which would make things equal. “And I did. I was like crying. And I look at her. She’s got this creepy smile on her face.”

Can Frankfurt really be right that people don’t value economic equality for its own sake? Many scholars believe otherwise. The primatologist Frans de Waal sums up a popular view when he writes: “Robin Hood had it right. Humanity’s deepest wish is to spread the wealth.”

In support of de Waal, researchers have found that if you ask children to distribute items to strangers, they are strongly biased towards equal divisions, even in extreme situations. The psychologists Alex Shaw and Kristina Olson told children between the ages of six and eight about two boys, Dan and Mark, who had cleaned up their room and were to be rewarded with erasers—but there were five of them, so an even split was impossible. Children overwhelmingly reported that the experimenter should throw away the fifth eraser rather than establish an unequal division. They did so even if they could have given the eraser to Dan or Mark without the other one knowing, so they couldn’t have been worrying about eliciting anger or envy.

It might seem as though these responses reflect a burning desire for equality, but more likely they reflect a wish for fairness. It is only because Dan and Mark did the same work that they should get the same reward. And so when Shaw and Olson told the children “Dan did more work than Mark,” they were quite comfortable giving three to Dan and two to Mark. In other words, they were fine with inequality, so long as it was fair.

 

Equity is what he has in those mansions he owns.

 

 

 

 

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If there are positions like this in your organization.

 

they are probably fostering illegal hiring practices based on things like RACE, Sex, Orientation and what not.

 

"HR Manager, Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Talent Pipeline Programs"

 

 

 

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On 1/15/2024 at 11:01 AM, aristocrat said:

Do you believe the most qualified should be hired no matter the race? Or should under qualified minorities be hired over higher qualified whites?

Who determines who is most qualified? That's a very subjective term 

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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Who determines who is most qualified? That's a very subjective term 

It's not "very subjective" at all.

 

Education is objective.

Experience is objective.

Testing is objective.

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3 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

It's not "very subjective" at all.

 

Education is objective.

Experience is objective.

Testing is objective.

All education is not the same

All experience is not the same 

All testing is far from objective 

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