frostbitmic Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 I was surprised he returned for the second half last night. Down 42-nuthin at the half he had to know he'd be canned today. At least he got a free flight back to LA. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Belichick doesn't have time for that. Not does he have the player personnel acumen to build a team. Look at the Patriots. That team is the end result of Bill and his dog drafting and free agency. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 5 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Chargers fans should be rejoicing at this news. For the Panos family to make another stupid decision. I’d have no confidence in that franchise. Mind you, I have no issues with LAC, and like Herbert. 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I was surprised he returned for the second half last night. Down 42-nuthin at the half he had to know he'd be canned today. At least he got a free flight back to LA. I was surprised the announcer team was openly calling for him to be canned at halftime 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 58 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Agreed, but if he has Herbert he could probably take care of the rest. I mean I would hope he would fail, but with a good QB his goofy system works. Herbert is no GOAT like Brady was.. Quote
JohnNord Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 5 hours ago, bills6969 said: https://x.com/chargers/status/1735707955541225938?s=46&t=10Oplb_WrqSrrnmb75e13A The media swooned over this guy’s press conferences a few years ago. To be fair, I think he was onto something based on how often he went for it on 4th down. It was something that made him different and won some games his team should have lost. But that philosophy backfired a few games including the loss to the Raiders that cost them a playoff spot. From there his approach was much more conservative on 4th down the next 2 year. I think he was ordered to stop by ownership. The past two season, it seemed like he was in over his head Quote
BullBuchanan Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 He clearly should have been fired last season. They wasted another year of Herbert and maybe Keenan Allen's last great year for nothing. 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JohnNord said: The media swooned over this guy’s press conferences a few years ago. To be fair, I think he was onto something based on how often he went for it on 4th down. It was something that made him different and won some games his team should have lost. But that philosophy backfired a few games including the loss to the Raiders that cost them a playoff spot. From there his approach was much more conservative on 4th down the next 2 year. I think he was ordered to stop by ownership. The past two season, it seemed like he was in over his head Since McVay there was a run on hiring young thirty something coaches. Many of have worked out, some haven’t, but I think fans, owners, and media started to falsely assume that every hot new coaching candidate would be a smashing success. Edited December 15, 2023 by SirAndrew 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: He clearly should have been fired last season. They wasted another year of Herbert and maybe Keenan Allen's last great year for nothing. Just wondering if one could make a similar argument in the Bills situation? Of course not on the same level of the Chargers. Not trying to imply this. As noted before, the likelihood of a head coach to go to a SB with a franchise QB is somewhere around 6 years. Do the math... The window has elapsed. 1 1 Quote
Riverboat Ritchie Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Surprised that the GM was fired. That roster seems really good. The coaching was terrible. GM, a Buffalo native and protege of Polian. 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: But he was so young, smart and innovative. This is one of the reasons I don't want McD fired. I don't want to see him replaced by someone, "young, smart, and innovative." 1 1 1 Quote
Rocky Landing Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Belichik to LAC is so obvious and might be the perfect offseason match in years. If it does happen the Chargers will be an instant SB contender next year. You never fail to entertain. 5 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I wonder if he'll bring JC Jackson back with him lol Maybe he'll bring Mac & Cheese Jones-- just to punish him for ruining his legacy in NE. Edited December 16, 2023 by Rocky Landing Quote
Saxum Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Is MLFootball willing to bet on it? 🤔 Is there a way to bet on new coach and GM? Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: The media swooned over this guy’s press conferences a few years ago. To be fair, I think he was onto something based on how often he went for it on 4th down. It was something that made him different and won some games his team should have lost. But that philosophy backfired a few games including the loss to the Raiders that cost them a playoff spot. From there his approach was much more conservative on 4th down the next 2 year. I think he was ordered to stop by ownership. The past two season, it seemed like he was in over his head he was a fraud from the get go. I was beating that drum for years. He was totally unqualified to be a HC. His claim to fame was basically stealing Fangio’s defense and taking credit for it, but running an inferior version. Then he became some bizarre media darling, like you said. I remember when Gruden was fired and he made some comments about it, and was hailed a genius. Or when he basically made the simple comment about how running is important to keep defenses honest, and he was hailed a genius. his career trajectory was one where he needed another 3-4 years as a defensive coach. He had no business being hired. 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 6 hours ago, FireChans said: They wasted their season keeping him after the playoff collapse. I’d be so mad as a Chargers fan Is there such a thing as a chargers fan? 6 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I'd be worried about the fired coach/interim coach play bump if they still had Herbert but they don't They got Easton Stick Big deal. Both my kids had Easton Sticks when they played hockey Quote
newcam2012 Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: This is one of the reasons I don't want McD fired. I don't want to see him replaced by someone, "young, smart, and innovative." This kind of fear prevents the Bills from advancing further. I believe this is the incorrect mindset to have. Often change is needed way before change is made. Case in point the Chargers. I'd argue with confidence McD and the Bills are applicable here. McD would actually be a great coach for the Chargers. He would instill a winning attitude and culture. The defense would be very solid and they'd likely make multiple playoff appearances. They would unlikely advance far but he would turn around the team and get them over the hump sort of speak. The team would be solid under his guidance. There are coaching candidates that are creative and innovative. McD has had plenty of time to make a SB appearance with his elite QB. This is just another failed year. How many more can and will this fan base accept? A failed playoff appearance is clearly realistic this year. How much more do we need to see? Let's stay with McD because he's safe and a great guy. No thanks for this fan. Get an assertive offensive minded coach. Can you imagine what Peyton would be doing with this team? Quote
JohnNord Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: he was a fraud from the get go. I was beating that drum for years. He was totally unqualified to be a HC. His claim to fame was basically stealing Fangio’s defense and taking credit for it, but running an inferior version. Then he became some bizarre media darling, like you said. I remember when Gruden was fired and he made some comments about it, and was hailed a genius. Or when he basically made the simple comment about how running is important to keep defenses honest, and he was hailed a genius. his career trajectory was one where he needed another 3-4 years as a defensive coach. He had no business being hired. His comment about running the football wasn’t exactly rocket science. I honestly thought he was at his best when he was making the YOLO 4th down calls. That really kept defenses off balance and gave the offense a lot of confidence. But his other horrendous coaches didn’t help matters 1 Quote
Reks Ryan Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 8 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: To be fair, the Chargers had 5 turnovers and the Raiders had 2 defensive touchdowns. And four of their offensive touchdown drives started on the Chargers side of the field. Only gave up 386 yards total. This wasn't the Denver defense against the Fins. The Chargers offense handed this game to the Raiders. Giimme a break. The Raiders scored 6 offensive TDs in the 1st half. It was 42-0 at halftime against a team that was shut out last week. How much worse could the Chargers D possibly play. It’s hard to put up yards on Offense when you start at midfield or in the 2’nd half your defense keeps scoring and kicking off. The Raiders scores TDs on 7 of their first 9 Posesaions Quote
TBBills Fan Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Hey, “it’s hard to win in this league!” 😁 They do punt well 1 Quote
Behindenemylines Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Staley should have pulled an Antonio Brown at halftime. Ripped off his shirt and awkwardly danced off the field at half time Quote
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