All_Pro_Bills Posted April 16 Posted April 16 15 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Do you all remember the GOP complaints that the left demanded and launched too many regulations, too many rules. Well, welcome to Harvard, who is resisting rules, regulations and standards set by...the GOP. An independent school. Take away the money, wtf does a university do with $9 billion per yr grant, but let them run their business. They are breaking no laws. I said it before. Harvard has a $53 billion endowment fund. They have the option of funding their activities independent of grants and subsidies from the US taxpayer. My dad used to say financial independence will buy you a lot of freedom. I think that's true. Harvard should follow that advice and buy freedom to do as they please rather than presenting themselves as a victim of government censorship. A rich victim with the means to support their activities that instead chooses to mooch off the taxpayer while demanding autonomy from any conditions of that funding. Like any financial arrangement, don't like the conditions, don't take the money. Problem solved. 1 1
Niagara Bill Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I said it before. Harvard has a $53 billion endowment fund. They have the option of funding their activities independent of grants and subsidies from the US taxpayer. My dad used to say financial independence will buy you a lot of freedom. I think that's true. Harvard should follow that advice and buy freedom to do as they please rather than presenting themselves as a victim of government censorship. A rich victim with the means to support their activities that instead chooses to mooch off the taxpayer while demanding autonomy from any conditions of that funding. Like any financial arrangement, don't like the conditions, don't take the money. Problem solved. Let's see if trump can let go, or does he have ulterior motives. My guess is there is more to his direction.
Taro T Posted April 16 Posted April 16 8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Let's see if trump can let go, or does he have ulterior motives. My guess is there is more to his direction. Pretty sure 47 found out the resistance to his rightful and glorious annexation of the 51st state was being formulated ENTIRELY at Harvard U and that is the REAL reason he's coming after them so hard. 😒 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 16 Posted April 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Taro T said: Pretty sure 47 found out the resistance to his rightful and glorious annexation of the 51st state was being formulated ENTIRELY at Harvard U and that is the REAL reason he's coming after them so hard. 😒 I suspect for the moment Trump is only interested in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Ontario, with Toronto and British Columbia, with Vancouver are populated by Chinese Triad gangs running drug and money laundering operations with the consent of the government in Ottawa. Edited April 16 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 16 Posted April 16 (edited) 29 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I said it before. Harvard has a $53 billion endowment fund. They have the option of funding their activities independent of grants and subsidies from the US taxpayer. My dad used to say financial independence will buy you a lot of freedom. I think that's true. Harvard should follow that advice and buy freedom to do as they please rather than presenting themselves as a victim of government censorship. A rich victim with the means to support their activities that instead chooses to mooch off the taxpayer while demanding autonomy from any conditions of that funding. Like any financial arrangement, don't like the conditions, don't take the money. Problem solved. Yes, the endowment is for their general fund. The government helps fund research. Things like assistantships for grad students and money for scientific instruments and supplies to promote knowledge that will help everyone. Maybe they should pay themselves and sell the knowledge to everyone who opposes public funding. 16 minutes ago, Taro T said: Pretty sure 47 found out the resistance to his rightful and glorious annexation of the 51st state was being formulated ENTIRELY at Harvard U and that is the REAL reason he's coming after them so hard. 😒 You sound like a Maoist Edited April 16 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
JDHillFan Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yes, the endowment is for their general fund. The government helps fund research. Things like assistantships for grad students and money for scientific instruments and supplies to promote knowledge that will help everyone. Maybe they should pay themselves and sell the knowledge to everyone who opposes public funding. Is it not possible to divert some of the 50B in the general fund to the purchase of critical scientific instruments? If it’s not possible, shouldn’t Harvard work to change that shortcoming? Surely the donors would approve as it will promote knowledge that will help everyone.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Is it not possible to divert some of the 50B in the general fund to the purchase of critical scientific instruments? If it’s not possible, shouldn’t Harvard work to change that shortcoming? Surely the donors would approve as it will promote knowledge that will help everyone. I said it was. Then they can. Sell the acquired knowledge to those who oppose public funding
JDHillFan Posted April 16 Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I said it was. Then they can. Sell the acquired knowledge to those who oppose public funding They are elites and therefore superior to all others. Why don’t they just share the acquired knowledge? Wouldn’t that be the right thing to do? That 50B won’t be drying up anytime soon.
Niagara Bill Posted April 16 Posted April 16 11 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I suspect for the moment Trump is only interested in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Ontario, with Toronto and British Columbia, with Vancouver are populated by Chinese Triad gangs running drug and money laundering operations with the consent of the government in Ottawa. Now this is funny. You prove you can spell. Yes we have Chinese, Mafia, Costa Nostra, no MS 13, in Canada, but lots of illegal guns from Americans. The day trump attacks Canada or Greenland is the day you will know your dictatorship is official. Control of military, check Control of spending, check Control of national cultural center, check Control of internal police forces, check Control international relations check Separation from world allies check Control of education and education processes, almost check Relationship formed with likeminded dictators check Support from countries rich and elite, check Ability to punish political enemies, both personal and corporate, check Ignoring internal justice rulings, Control of outcomes, check Internal enemy identified and punished check Fear put into outspoken enemies, check, Punishment and control of media, check Elected officials and approval processes unnecessary, uncontrolled actions, check Ability to take military action and engage in war without government approval.... 29 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yes, the endowment is for their general fund. The government helps fund research. Things like assistantships for grad students and money for scientific instruments and supplies to promote knowledge that will help everyone. Maybe they should pay themselves and sell the knowledge to everyone who opposes public funding. You sound like a Maoist I must add, It is impossible to imagine what research can be done for $9billion funding per year. There are countries who don't have $9b.
BillsFanNC Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 (edited) There are plenty of other research institutions that adhere to federal civil rights law that would be glad to take up the research slack and funding if Harvard wants to continue allowing harassment of Jewish students on their campus. In fact send it to Hopkins and I'll sell them a few more instruments. Edited April 16 by BillsFanNC 1
B-Man Posted April 16 Posted April 16 EVERY RECORD HAS BEEN ALTERED: At Harvard-Hosted ‘Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon,’ Law Students Target the Pages of Firms That Criticized School’s Response to Anti-Semitism. Anti-Israel Harvard Law School students organized a workshop on the Ivy League campus earlier this month to edit the Wikipedia pages of more than a dozen prominent law firms, singling out some that threatened to stop recruiting at the school over its failure to rein in anti-Semitic activity. Harvard’s National Lawyers Guild chapter, a left-wing legal advocacy group, hosted the “Wikipedia Edit-A-Thon” on April 2 at Harvard Law’s WCC student center, according to an announcement on Harvard Law’s website. Third-year Harvard Law student Corinne Shanahan, an organizer with Harvard Out of Occupied Palestine, organized the clinic for students to “gather data to edit the Wikipedia pages of Big Law firms to reflect cases they have recently argued.” Two days later, Harvard Law student Aashna Avachat edited the Wikipedia pages of 14 law firms, mostly to add details of their representation of clients that the activist students deemed to be unsavory, according to a Washington Free Beacon review of Wikipedia edit logs. Avachat edited the pages for the firms Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, and Simpson Thacher & Bartlett to soften the language about anti-Semitic activity on college campuses. Amid a wave of anti-Semitic protests following the Hamas attack on Israel, the two firms warned Harvard Law and others that they would cut back on recruiting on their campuses for failing to rein in anti-Semitic incidents. The edit logs show Avachat changed the term “antisemitic incidents” to “pro-Palestine protests,” and reworded references to “incidents targeting Jewish students” to incidents that the law firms “described … as antisemitic.” Avachat herself was involved in one incident at Harvard in which her law school classmate, Ibrahim Bharmal, accosted and shoved a Jewish student during an anti-Israel “die-in.” Avachat said she witnessed the incident and claimed Bharmal was protecting “peaceful protesters” against an “aggressive” Jewish student. Both Bharmal and another student activist, Elom Tettey-Tamaklo, were charged in connection with the “die-in,” a case that Harvard delayed by refusing to cooperate with local prosecutors. https://freebeacon.com/campus/at-harvard-hosted-wikipedia-edit-a-thon-law-students-target-the-pages-of-firms-that-criticized-schools-response-to-anti-semitism/
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: There are plenty of other research institutions that adhere to federal civil rights law that would be glad to take up the research slack and funding if Harvard wants to continue allowing harassment of Jewish students on their campus. In fact send it to Hopkins and I'll sell them a few more instruments. Hopkins is already #1 in government grants. over $3 billion in 2022. But I think Harvard should just put patents on any research discoveries not publicly funded. trump wants to monetize everything. why shouldn't the elite universities do the same. If harvard does well perhaps all of the top research institutions will do the same. The public can obtain their discoveries from the local open admissions crappy school for free. https://hub.jhu.edu/2024/01/05/nsf-higher-education-research-spending-2022/
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 16 Posted April 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I must add, It is impossible to imagine what research can be done for $9billion funding per year. There are countries who don't have $9b. it's 2.2 b this year. The approx 8 billion being threatened is from multi year contracts and grants.... https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/1/trump-review-harvard-funds/ Edited April 16 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
B-Man Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Noem Opens Third Front in War On Haahvaahd: Student Visas Ed Morrissey FTA: Just how long can the elitists hold out on the front lines of Harvard? Kristi Noem threatened a gut punch to their financial model today as the fight escalated between the school and the Trump administration: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem threatened to revoke Harvard University’s ability to enroll international students, the latest broadside from the Trump administration against the Ivy League school. Noem ordered the university to submit records on what she says is “illegal and violent activities” from international students by April 30, or Harvard would suffer the “immediate loss of Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification,” according to a DHS press release released late Wednesday. The certification program is what allows institutions to enroll foreign students. Noem also announced the canceling of two department grants worth over $2.7 million to the university, “declaring it unfit to be entrusted with taxpayer dollars.” “Harvard bending the knee to antisemitism — driven by its spineless leadership — fuels a cesspool of extremist riots and threatens our national security,” Noem said in the press release. In the meantime, Harvard's still sticking with its "independence" defense while demanding access to billions in federal funding https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/04/17/noem-opens-third-front-in-war-on-haahvaahd-student-visas-n3801886
The Frankish Reich Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Noem Opens Third Front in War On Haahvaahd: Student Visas Ed Morrissey FTA: Just how long can the elitists hold out on the front lines of Harvard? Kristi Noem threatened a gut punch to their financial model today as the fight escalated between the school and the Trump administration: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem threatened to revoke Harvard University’s ability to enroll international students, the latest broadside from the Trump administration against the Ivy League school. Noem ordered the university to submit records on what she says is “illegal and violent activities” from international students by April 30, or Harvard would suffer the “immediate loss of Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification,” according to a DHS press release released late Wednesday. The certification program is what allows institutions to enroll foreign students. Noem also announced the canceling of two department grants worth over $2.7 million to the university, “declaring it unfit to be entrusted with taxpayer dollars.” “Harvard bending the knee to antisemitism — driven by its spineless leadership — fuels a cesspool of extremist riots and threatens our national security,” Noem said in the press release. In the meantime, Harvard's still sticking with its "independence" defense while demanding access to billions in federal funding https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/04/17/noem-opens-third-front-in-war-on-haahvaahd-student-visas-n3801886 Notice that there's nothing here but "We're the Feds and if you don't do what we say we'll punish you." There's no analysis of any sort. Just "we have the power to break you if you don't comply." These are the people who said they believed the federal government had too much power. 1
JDHillFan Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Hasn't Harvard suffered enough ? I’m trying to imagine the group of people at Harvard where one of them says “do you know what would really drive our message home? An appearance from Joe Biden” and the others nod along and say “yessss”. 1
Homelander Posted April 17 Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Hasn't Harvard suffered enough ? Where’s stevestojan when you need him most? Oh right, probably busy fine-tuning his “I hate Trump but” routine for maximum performative neutrality.
JDHillFan Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Homelander said: Where’s stevestojan when you need him most? Oh right, probably busy fine-tuning his “I hate Trump but” routine for maximum performative neutrality. Do you see yourself coming a little unwound? Everyone else does. Might be time to check in with your care team. 1
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