NewEra Posted December 25, 2023 Author Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:41 AM, John from Riverside said: If you bring him back, then draft a wide receiver in the first round With any kind of luck, the draft will push Gabe Davis to the third wr Expand I don’t think this is an option. Our resources are limited this offseason. We can’t afford to spend the money on Davis and our top offseason asset on the same position. unless we can get gabe for a bargain contract- I’d pass on him and use the 1st on a WR. Spend the money on Edge and DT. The majority of our DL are FA. 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 If you can re sign him for 5-9 million you do, that's nothing for a wr these days The problem is he is going to get closer to 16-20 per from a desperate team 1 Quote
Brian Higgins hair Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) Want a run game? Then you need receivers who can do both run block, and catch.. Sign Gabe. . Edited December 25, 2023 by Brian Higgins hair 1 Quote
loyal2dagame Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 He's not worth what another team will surely pay. Big NO for bringing him back 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:44 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: If you can re sign him for 5-9 million you do, that's nothing for a wr these days The problem is he is going to get closer to 16-20 per from a desperate team Expand I don't think he comes anywhere CLOSE to that. Draft is deep at WR. The FA market right now is projected deep at WR. Teams won't have to overspend on middle of the road WRs. I think he comes in right about at the Allen Lazard level contract. At the $11M-ish level I wouldn't bring him back...but I bet Brandon Beane does. 2 Quote
BBFL Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:38 PM, NewEra said: I don’t think this is an option. Our resources are limited this offseason. We can’t afford to spend the money on Davis and our top offseason asset on the same position. unless we can get gabe for a bargain contract- I’d pass on him and use the 1st on a WR. Spend the money on Edge and DT. The majority of our DL are FA. Expand I think that’s the most likely option however I feel that some of those guys on the DL are coming back on cheap contracts. Floyd is the only concern I have in terms of retention and dollars for that. What happens if there’s a massive run on WRs again like last year? Do they then dip into defense again? Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:04 AM, Limeaid said: Which means it is a good idea for Bills to sign him again. Absolutely not. Somehow you think you are some sort of leper which makes thread untouchable once you say it is over. I bet you cannot follow your own advice and will continue posting on it. Expand Lol...excellent post Quote
Saxum Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:32 PM, BearNorth said: Spotrac says he could get $13.5 AAV in Free Agency. If he does that Diggs will probably have his agent speed dialing Beane. Expand Bye Davis if you get some offer like that. Hope it is a NFC team. Quote
NewEra Posted December 25, 2023 Author Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 7:26 PM, BBFL said: I think that’s the most likely option however I feel that some of those guys on the DL are coming back on cheap contracts. Floyd is the only concern I have in terms of retention and dollars for that. What happens if there’s a massive run on WRs again like last year? Do they then dip into defense again? Expand 🤷🏻♂️ - but I don’t think we do both. I also think this years WR class is much better. Better high end talent as well as better options late rd 1 into rd 2 1 Quote
Saxum Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 5:25 PM, Brian Higgins hair said: Want a run game? Then you need receivers who can do both run block, and catch.. Sign Gabe. Expand Agree but not at 8 figures. 1 1 Quote
NewEra Posted December 25, 2023 Author Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 7:48 PM, Limeaid said: Bye Davis if you get some offer like that. Hope it is a NFC team. Expand I hope an afc team pays him that or more! Quote
JaCrispy Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) On 12/25/2023 at 4:44 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: If you can re sign him for 5-9 million you do, that's nothing for a wr these days The problem is he is going to get closer to 16-20 per from a desperate team Expand I find this hard to believe…It’s not like he has untapped potential, due to athletic ability…Davis has basically reached his ceiling as an unreliable, unathletic #3/#4 receiver… No smart team would pay him #2 money…They would sooner take their chances on an upgrade WR in the draft…👍 As for the Bills, the mentality of our front office should be to draft a #2 receiver, that they see as a potential replacement for Diggs…That is not Davis… Edited December 25, 2023 by JaCrispy 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 This is how I see it. Orange, I would take over Gabe. Green, is basically two #1's. Red, these teams just don't have legitimate WR cores and they're bad teams. We could say, sure, see, Gabe is better than these, but being better than the worst isn't how we become better. Gabe has an average depth of target and catch% as a result of his ADOT that is among the worst in football. It makes him a one trick pony. If we had the other ingredients like a big body possession WR with a very low ADOT perhaps his profile would balance it out. But we don't have that. Keeping Gabe has prevented us from developing a WR core that is more diverse. It's a big part of what leads to our inconsistency. Perhaps another team will pay for Gabe's skill set. That shouldn't be our concern, he is unquestionably holding us back by being slotted in as a starter which has prevented us from upgrading. 1 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 8:11 PM, JaCrispy said: I find this hard to believe…It’s not like he has untapped potential, due to athletic ability…Davis has basically reached his ceiling as an unreliable, unathletic #3/#4 receiver… No smart team would pay him #2 money…They would sooner take their chances on an upgrade WR in the draft…👍 As for the Bills, the mentality of our front office should be to draft a #2 receiver, that they see as a potential replacement for Diggs…That is not Davis… Expand A lot of dumb teams out there He will sign a contract for that money but could very well never see it in my opinion A team will structure his contract as a 3 or 4 year deal at 60ish but the guaranteed will be about 20 or less and really be just a two year deal. Which I honestly think a good amount of teams will line up to offer Gabe coming off his first contract where he put up alright numbers is young enough where he will be looking to max his potential in my opinion which will lead to a low guarantee but a large total contract Quote
Saxum Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 3:46 AM, Cheektowaga Chad said: A lot of dumb teams out there He will sign a contract for that money but could very well never see it in my opinion A team will structure his contract as a 3 or 4 year deal at 60ish but the guaranteed will be about 20 or less and really be just a two year deal. Which I honestly think a good amount of teams will line up to offer Gabe coming off his first contract where he put up alright numbers is young enough where he will be looking to max his potential in my opinion which will lead to a low guarantee but a large total contract Expand Gabe has been prepared each season working out and studying. He has intelligent advisors. He will not accept a contract which is for a fool as you describe sacrificing guaranteed for potential big money. Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/gabriel-davis-47723/market-value/ Spottrac has him at 13.5 a year simply for his receiving ability, and his blocking has real value. If he signs for less than $50 million total I would surprised unless Buffalo wins the SB and he takes $40 for 4 years so he can keep winning Quote
ganesh Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 I see Kincaid as the WR2 in this offense, split with James Cook. I assume the Bills will move Shakir up in the depth chart and then draft a speedy WR especially to stretch the defense. The Bills still have significant weapons on offense and are unable to use them to their advantage. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:44 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: If you can re sign him for 5-9 million you do, that's nothing for a wr these days The problem is he is going to get closer to 16-20 per from a desperate team Expand God Bless America! if he gets close to 16-20 million. I see him getting like a 2 year deal for 20-24 million. Quote
Since1981 Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) It’s time to spin the wheel on a proper WR2. If not for me, do it for our hero Josh. NFL GMs are smart people. They know that Gabe is a WR3/WR4. Edited December 27, 2023 by Since1981 Quote
Kaenon Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Gabe is on pace for his best season yet, despite not being a part of the offense 30% of games, sans blocking. He's 800 yards and 7 TDs a year. I'm not sure what market value is there, but who knows, maybe there is a team out there that wants to showcase him as a #1? Diggs and Davis's stats over there first 4 seasons aren't all that different. Quote
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