So are we just done expecting Von Miller to do anything?

[colin]

  On 12/13/2023 at 4:16 PM, without a drought said:

He injured his knee on thanksgiving and had surgery Dec 7th. 

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based on my calculations that makes it 42 months, which is a long time for Edmunds to be in his rookie year, but here we are.

[without a drought]

  On 12/13/2023 at 5:01 PM, colin said:

 

 

based on my calculations that makes it 42 months, which is a long time for Edmunds to be in his rookie year, but here we are.

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Edmunds was only 12 years old 42 months ago.

[Buffalo03]

  On 12/13/2023 at 3:22 AM, SCBills said:

I do not understand why anyone would choose this game, of all the games he’s played this year, to convey this message. 
 

He actually affected Mahomes late in the 4th a few times.  Looked like he finally started figuring some things out. 

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The OP is clearly not paying attention. He saw Miller's name and number hit Mahomes on Sunday and didn't know what the hell he was looking at

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[pi2000]

This was his first week without the brace as planned, he mentioned this weeks ago.    He'll continue to get better I have no doubt.

[SoMAn]

The real question is whether his reduced production is temporary and solely attributed to working his way back from the ACL, or is Father Time the real fly in the ointment?  Looking at a hypothetical scenario in which the injury never occurred, would his current production be similar to what we’re now witnessing? 
In a nutshell, how much is it the injury or inevitable age and hitting that wall? 

[BillsShredder83]

  On 12/13/2023 at 5:37 AM, Alpo Chino said:

Damn imagine if he regain 75% of his old form and Daquan comes back.... 

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speaking of Daquan.... what was his injury again? something he can hit the field running from when he comes back, or something wed expect a slow start from? anyone know, been weird how hush his whole thing has seemed

[Rubes]

  On 12/13/2023 at 5:43 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

speaking of Daquan.... what was his injury again? something he can hit the field running from when he comes back, or something wed expect a slow start from? anyone know, been weird how hush his whole thing has seemed

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pectoral tear. Very tough injury to deal with, need to come back pretty carefully, though others have done it. I think he could see the field by the end of the season if we’re still in it.

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

  On 12/13/2023 at 2:47 AM, dayman said:

Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker.

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There is no magic to do anything about this. 

 

His contract makes him unable to get rid of or trade, and now Epenesa is out week to week, so he's going to have to play. 

 

The Bills have no choice but to try and make this work. 

[Mojo44]

  On 12/13/2023 at 5:06 PM, without a drought said:

Edmunds was only 12 years old 42 months ago.

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And yet, inexplicably, he is still 12 years old.

[C.Biscuit97]

As the great Gin Blossoms once said:

 

”And if you don't expect too much from me
You might not be let down”

 

awful contract but sunken cost. Felt weird watching him Sunday but I guess anything he does is a bonus now. It’s such a low bar but he looked better last game. 
 

personally, I kinda wish he could be long term IRed and the young guys would step up. 

[Shaw66]

  On 12/13/2023 at 6:23 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

awful contract but sunken cost. Felt weird watching him Sunday but I guess anything he does is a bonus now. It’s such a low bar but he looked better last game. 
 

personally, I kinda wish he could be long term IRed and the young guys would step up. 

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I just don't get this.   I'm expecting him to be a true difference maker, if not by the end of this season, then certainly next season.   He works hard, he stays in shape, he has unusual (to say the least) talents.   He's motivated.  

 

Bills brought him to Buffalo to pressure the passer in the fourth quarter of big games, and even though by most measures he shouldn't be expected to be fully recovered yet, in the fourth quarter of a big game three days ago, he pressured the passer.   

[Eastport bills]

It seems like Von is either hesitant to bull rush or make the turn when he rushes wide. Maybe he still doesn’t trust the knee. He’s got to put his stamp on one or two of the remaining games in order to be counted on going forward. Otherwise we will be taking a big hit for no production at a vital position.

[Dick_Cheney]

Not sure how people are missing that this was his first game without the brace and it was by far the most impact he's had this season. I fully expect him to be an impact player against Dallas.

[par73]

Strange time to post this, since he did actually have an impact on Sunday.

[Shaw66]

  On 12/13/2023 at 6:33 PM, Eastport bills said:

It seems like Von is either hesitant to bull rush or make the turn when he rushes wide. Maybe he still doesn’t trust the knee. He’s got to put his stamp on one or two of the remaining games in order to be counted on going forward. Otherwise we will be taking a big hit for no production at a vital position.

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I don't get this.  The guy is a first-ballot Hall of Fame player.  Before his injury, he was playing at essentially the same level as in previous seasons (he averaged 10 sacks a season, and playing part-time last season he had 8, he's recovering from an injury that takes 12-18 months for full recovery), and yet you say if he doesn't make an impact in the next four games, he's history.  Makes no sense.  

[Mark Vader]

As usual the OP of this thread has not responded to anyone who has questioned their take.

 

We have plenty of threads like this where someone complains and after they do that, they disappear.

Looks like @dayman just wants attention and is not interested in this discussion.

[first_and_ten]

  On 12/13/2023 at 2:47 AM, dayman said:

Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker.

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He's done this year. WE have to give him until next year because it takes time to get back to normal

[Eastport bills]

  On 12/13/2023 at 6:51 PM, Shaw66 said:

I don't get this.  The guy is a first-ballot Hall of Fame player.  Before his injury, he was playing at essentially the same level as in previous seasons (he averaged 10 sacks a season, and playing part-time last season he had 8, he's recovering from an injury that takes 12-18 months for full recovery), and yet you say if he doesn't make an impact in the next four games, he's history.  Makes no sense.  

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History, never said that. He’s guaranteed 70 million over 5 years and he’s a liability if he gets no sacks or tackles. The problem is Beane signed a 33 year old, with injuries in his history, to a monster contract and it is adversely affecting the roster for minimum 2more seasons.

[Einstein]

  On 12/13/2023 at 2:48 AM, RiotAct said:

He showed signs of improvement in the Chiefs game.  Collapsed the pocket decently on at least a few of his snaps.

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Honest question - When did this happen?

 

I can only think of one play where he (sorta) did this.

[RiotAct]

  On 12/13/2023 at 7:31 PM, Einstein said:

 

Honest question - When did this happen?

 

I can only think of one play where he (sorta) did this.

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a few times, but on the final Chiefs offensive play (the 4th down), he got some pressure on Mahomes and seemed to force the throw a little earlier than he wanted to release it IIRC.