When’s the Last Time We Ran a “Real” Screen Pass?

[st pete gogolak]

Like most of the posters here, I hate, hate, HATE the WR screen pass. Especially running it over and over against a D playing man press (KC).  When was the last time we ran a “traditional” screen (OL leaks out after pretending to pass block, RB leaks out and has a couple of blockers in front of him when he gets the ball)?  Cincinnati ran a couple of nice screens against the Colts.  Is it because our OL isn’t athletic?  I thought Morse and Brown were athletic enough to get out on in front on a screen. (Shout out to Brown, whose play seems to be much improved). 
 

One more rant.  Just like Fran Stalinovskovichdavidovitshky is the deadliest woman in the world with a dodgeball, Josh Allen is the deadliest QB in the NFL rolling to his right.  Why not have a couple of designed rollouts?  Worst that happens is a throw OB if nobody’s open.

[JohnNord]

Under Brady the Bills ran a few RB at TE leak patterns.  I would assume a “real” screen is coming up.

 

As far why the never run them, I never understood.  Could it be that Josh isn’t comfortable?

 

This isn’t a new issue.  We asked the same question under Daboll and later Dorsey.

 

I seem to remember that back in 2018, Josh taking off and getting the ball short to a Chris Ivory was one of their big plays

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

Like most of the posters here, I hate, hate, HATE the WR screen pass. Especially running it over and over against a D playing man press (KC).  When was the last time we ran a “traditional” screen (OL leaks out after pretending to pass block, RB leaks out and has a couple of blockers in front of him when he gets the ball)?  Cincinnati ran a couple of nice screens against the Colts.  Is it because our OL isn’t athletic?  I thought Morse and Brown were athletic enough to get out on in front on a screen. (Shout out to Brown, whose play seems to be much improved). 
 

One more rant.  Just like Fran Stalinovskovichdavidovitshky is the deadliest woman in the world with a dodgeball, Josh Allen is the deadliest QB in the NFL rolling to his right.  Why not have a couple of designed rollouts?  Worst that happens is a throw OB if nobody’s open.

Probably CJ Spiller.  The way Thurman used to run them, it was one of the prettiest plays in the game. I would think we would want to have some more plays that take advantage of how aggressive DL are. Screens, reverses etc. 

[WhoTom]

I don't think the Bills have run a good screen game since the Kelly era. At the same time, they also can't seem to defend against it.

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I didn’t hate it in the chiefs game as much as other games…the chiefs were absolutely obliterating the interior of our OL in the second half 

 

feels like a waste of a play when a lot of other stuff is working though.  Diggs has dropped a few in the last couple games that were set up pretty well to be fair to the play caller at the time whether it was Brady or Dorsey 

[QCity]

With Cook's hands and the way he moves in space they need to dial some up ASAP.

 

Our WR screens are so poorly disguised that a pick-6 is a more likely outcome than us getting 10 yards. That's not hyperbole, they are heart-attack inducing.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

2 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

I don't think the Bills have run a good screen game since the Kelly era. At the same time, they also can't seem to defend against it.

 

 

Chan Gailey.

[blacklabel]

1 minute ago, QCity said:

With Cook's hands and the way he moves in space they need to dial some up ASAP.

 

Our WR screens are so poorly disguised that a pick-6 is a more likely outcome than us getting 10 yards. That's not hyperbole, they are heart-attack inducing.

 

Ty Johnson seems like he'd do pretty well on screens too. Guy gets the ball and doesn't waste a step getting vertical. 

[JohnNord]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I didn’t hate it in the chiefs game as much as other games…the chiefs were absolutely obliterating the interior of our OL in the second half 

 

feels like a waste of a play when a lot of other stuff is working though.  Diggs has dropped a few in the last couple games that were set up pretty well to be fair to the play caller at the time whether it was Brady or Dorsey 

There was intent behind the WR versus KC.  Brady was setting the defense for a big shot to Gabe downfield late in the game.  He was WIDE open but Josh rushed a bit and missed him electing to throw a 50/50 ball to Kincaid.  
 

Plus as someone mentioned, Diggs dropped a few screens, the last one which could’ve really hurt the team

[Bad Things]

Can Gaily era

[WhoTom]

7 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Chan Gailey.

 

Fitz to Spiller?

[El_diablo]

When we had the K-gun.  We would fake a screen in one direction and flip the screen pass to the other side.  Quite successful.

[Jauronimo]

Pretty sure we ran one to Cook last weekend.  Pressure slid through, blocking was all setup, and Cook took it for an 8 yard gain.  6:18 remaining in the second half, right before the interception.  It did not look like a dump off to me but I could be mistaken.

[HOUSE]

I agree with this because Pete Gogalak was a great kicker

[Charles Romes]

I heard it explained that screens work better when you have an immobile pocket passer 

[Buffalo Junction]

5 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

I heard it explained that screens work better when you have an immobile pocket passer 

This^^^. Screens often get blown up when there’s a spy. They’re also more difficult against zone coverages where there’s a designated flat defender. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

There was a "real" screen pass in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs on Sunday to Cook. Got 7 or 8 yards

[Roundybout]

We did a couple good ones with John Brown. It was that audible, Gold Rocket or something. 

[Solomon Grundy]

When's the last time they ran a draw? Or a misdirection with the RB?

[SoCal Deek]

I’d settle for the goal line play where the TE pretends to block and slips out the backside to be standing all alone in the end zone. I’ve been waiting FIFTY years for the Bills to run that play instead of some lame fade pattern to the back pylon. Fingers crossed that this is the week. 🤞🏽