JA17 postgame on-field interview

[boyst]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, Logic said:

Did you also see the post-game presser he did, though?

Said something like "you can question coaching decisions, or my decision as a player, but you can't question coach McDermott as a person. He's one of the better humans on this planet".

 

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That is speaking personally of McDermott as a human. Not a coach. 

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, Logic said:

Did you also see the post-game presser he did, though?

Said something like "you can question coaching decisions, or my decision as a player, but you can't question coach McDermott as a person. He's one of the better humans on this planet".

 

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Sounds like they’ve turned on him 

[blacklabel]

One classy mofo. 

 

If anyone had any reason to go ballistic on the officials like Mahomes did, it was Josh when he was practically strangled by an Eagles defender and didn't get the flag for a horse collar. 

[mannc]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, Logic said:

Did you also see the post-game presser he did, though?

Said something like "you can question coaching decisions, or my decision as a player, but you can't question coach McDermott as a person. He's one of the better humans on this planet".

 

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In other words, Sean’s a crappy coach, but a nice guy.😀  Real strong endorsement ….

[JohnNord]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:09 PM, pocoboy said:

 

Yeah listening to Schopp & Bulldog postgame, I was surprised they didn't latch onto that. To me it was a rather interesting phrasing, lending credence to my general belief that most of this season's strife is related to an organizational power struggle between JA17 and McDermott.

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If you read the Dunne article it said nothing about a struggle.  Just that Josh was very confrontational and that one of the anonymous sources which he spoke up against McDermott more often

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:22 PM, mannc said:

In other words, Sean’s a crappy coach, but a nice guy.😀  Real strong endorsement ….

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You guys are reading into this way too much.  The issue with the Dunne article was that the Bills felt his character was questioned.  They never took issue with Dunne thinking he was a lousy coach.  
 

This is Josh’s way of defending him. 

[mrags]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, Logic said:

Did you also see the post-game presser he did, though?

Said something like "you can question coaching decisions, or my decision as a player, but you can't question coach McDermott as a person. He's one of the better humans on this planet".

 

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This has always been my issue with it. Nobody ever said McD isn’t a good person. I have no doubt in that. I do however have doubts about his in game decisions 

[Southern_Bills]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, Logic said:

Did you also see the post-game presser he did, though?

Said something like "you can question coaching decisions, or my decision as a player, but you can't question coach McDermott as a person. He's one of the better humans on this planet".

 

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Yeah, I'm in camp "Fire McDermott" but admittedly he hasn't lost the locker room. 

 

The players genuinely love their coach, they may question some calls just like us, but they love him no doubt.

[Beck Water]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, WotAGuy said:

Well, there was a lot going on last week and it could be he was thinking about Von as much as Sean’s situation. Maybe he was coached to not be specific about any of it, especially on national TV?

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Yeah, when in doubt, can't go wrong with falling back on the old "this is a group of guys who really love each other and play for each other" standard.

[Southern_Bills]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:22 PM, mannc said:

In other words, Sean’s a crappy coach, but a nice guy.😀  Real strong endorsement ….

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I don't think that's what he meant.

 

But I will say if you ask about one of my colleagues and I say "he's a good man", that means he sucks at his job, I have nothing else to say. 🤣

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Josh is so good at saying the right thing. Even after 13 seconds when people were complaining about the OT rule he took the high road and said they'd be celebrating just as much if they got the ball first and won. 

 

There's guys that get a ton of media training that aren't this good at it. 

 

I don't like McD at all, but Josh isn't going to throw him or anyone on the team under the bus publicly. And there is something respectable about that. 

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[WotAGuy]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:31 PM, Beck Water said:

 

Yeah, when in doubt, can't go wrong with falling back on the old "this is a group of guys who really love each other and play for each other" standard.

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Josh is truly a humble man. She gave him an opportunity to talk up his incredible sideline throw and he basically said he did a lousy job on first and second down, and didn’t say anything about the third down play. 

[Cray51]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:27 PM, mrags said:

This has always been my issue with it. Nobody ever said McD isn’t a good person. I have no doubt in that. I do however have doubts about his in game decisions 

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Dunne's article clearly had quotes talking about Sean being a "me" guy and a narcissist...  There were absolutely questions about him as a person.

[boyst]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:45 PM, Cray51 said:

Dunne's article clearly had quotes talking about Sean being a "me" guy and a narcissist...  There were absolutely questions about him as a person.

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anyone who raises to that type of level is generally a narcissist, psychopath or sociopath. sometimes all 3

[mrags]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:45 PM, Cray51 said:

Dunne's article clearly had quotes talking about Sean being a "me" guy and a narcissist...  There were absolutely questions about him as a person.

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You can be a me guy and a narcissist and still be a good human being. It just means you are looking out for your self and want to continue to keep your job. I have no doubt he is a good person. I do also believe he is a micromanaging narcissist. I can believe both 

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:50 PM, boyst said:

anyone who raises to that type of level is generally a narcissist, psychopath or sociopath. sometimes all 3

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Right. I wouldn’t expect much less out of an nfl head coach 

[BigAl2526]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:37 PM, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Somewhat smaller audience, but true.  Also only references that he's a good guy, not that he's a good coach.

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I think the "person" comment in his post-game pressor has more to do with seeing McDermott's 9/11 comment less as a symptom of coaching acumen and more as a question of his character.  I don't think he meant to imply whether McDermott is either a good or bad coach.

[Virgil]

I think people forget that Josh has a lot of respect and a good relationship with Kelce and Mahomes.  People are getting on Mahomes for the post game handshake, but I believe their friendship goes beyond being impacted by that.  I think Mahomes was just venting to a friend in the moment and they will talk after.

[ExWNYer]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:41 PM, JohnNord said:

The odd thing I saw online was that Wolfson and another reporter claimed they saw Toney check with the official before the ball was snapped to make sure he was onside.

 

They both later deleted that with zero explanation.  

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  On 12/11/2023 at 6:44 PM, ChevyVanMiller said:

I’m sure they deleted it because the All- 22 angles clearly show that Toney never looked the officials way.

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Tasker & Brown said today that Reid and Toney both admitted that Toney never checked with the officials to make sure that he was not offside. Reid acknowledged that Toney was lined up offside but only "by inches" which is false. The blue line on TV is actually beyond the line of scrimmage and Toney's toes were on that line in the visual. He was blatantly offside. Reid's admission was akin to a "yeah but..." half-arsed apology, IMO. He and Kermit have gotten borderline calls in their favor for years, including in the Super Bowl. That offside was not a subjective call, it was a letter of the law infraction and they have been enforcing it more this year. Just sour grapes by these asshats and a no class handling of the situation on their part. 

[CodeMonkey]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, WotAGuy said:

Well, there was a lot going on last week and it could be he was thinking about Von as much as Sean’s situation. Maybe he was coached to not be specific about any of it, especially on national TV?

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D1 athletes take classes on how to deal with press and interviews.  So certainly possible. But across the entire team the support for McD has been universal as  witnessed with the 9/11 thing.

[Beck Water]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:32 PM, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

 

Given a chance to back his coach on national TV when Tracy Wolfson teed up the "what did this team show after the tumultuous week you guys had to deal with?" question, Josh instead was all about how the players "rallied behind each other, played for each other".

 

Probably reading too much into it, but still...

 

 

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To be exact, having listened to this now, he said "we rallied behind each other, played for each other".  There was nothing in there limiting it to "players" or talking about "players".

[BRH]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:41 PM, JohnNord said:

The odd thing I saw online was that Wolfson and another reporter claimed they saw Toney check with the official before the ball was snapped to make sure he was onside.

 

They both later deleted that with zero explanation.  

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A sideline reporter making things up?  That never happens.