WR’s checking with officials when lining up

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This is the funniest one I remember. McClaurin said the ref said he was good. 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:49 PM, margolbe said:

I thought Andy Reid's comments were quite telling in that he expected a warning from the referee regarding the illegal formation.  Is he kidding or is this evidence of the expectation of a two-tiered system regarding officiating favoring the "darling" teams.  We are luck that we had this ref crew this week.  If we had the one we had in Philadelphia, we would have lost this game.

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Reid is totally in CYA mode…he knows they aren’t getting a warning on a WR close to the formation…he is just covering up that his reclamation project is costing him games.

[Jauronimo]

  On 12/11/2023 at 8:59 PM, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Reid is totally in CYA mode…he knows they aren’t getting a warning on a WR close to the formation…he is just covering up that his reclamation project is costing him games.

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Or he is trying to draw fire from his star QB who just went full meltdown.

[That's No Moon]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:28 PM, LabattBlue said:

Someone clarify…

 

Are the WR’s asking if they are onside, or are they asking about the illegal formation/covering up/not covering up?

 

I believe it is the latter, but not positive. 

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Onside. They do it all the time. Occasionally you see them adjust backwards.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 12/11/2023 at 4:01 PM, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think they would. I think it's one of those, "hey man be careful you are really close to being Offside. Back up." To me that's a warning. If they are lined up Offside, that's a flag. 

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I don’t think they should do that at all honestly. Imagine if a ref warns one player but not the opponent? That’d go over well. 

[schoolhouserock]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:52 PM, SoCal Deek said:

What you are seeing is the WR checking to see if he’s lined up incorrectly so as to be ‘covering up’ the TE or other WR. He’s not checking to see if he’s over the line of scrimmage. The penalty he’s trying to avoid is illegal formation….not offside. 

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I wasn’t clear. I have seen them line up Offside only to check with the ref and have the ref give that little hand signal.

 

The WR is looking over to the ref for the exact reason you highlighted, but I have seen the exchange occur because of the WR’s initial mistake. It wasn’t the intent, but it happens.

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 12/11/2023 at 8:48 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This is the funniest one I remember. McClaurin said the ref said he was good. 

 

 

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Now THIS is an example where the player is right to be pissed. Although he didnt do a good job of looking at the ref to confirm.

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:38 PM, mikemac2001 said:

Haha ya they aren’t even talking about that he runs into kelce defender like 10 yards downfield 

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That's the irony of that whole play. The Offside was egregious but so was his OPI running in the DB.  That was definitely a drawn up play by Reid.

[SoCal Deek]

  On 12/11/2023 at 10:07 PM, schoolhouserock said:

I wasn’t clear. I have seen them line up Offside only to check with the ref and have the ref give that little hand signal.

 

The WR is looking over to the ref for the exact reason you highlighted, but I have seen the exchange occur because of the WR’s initial mistake. It wasn’t the intent, but it happens.

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Also correct. 👍 The odd thing about all of the Chiefs whining is that Toney did the exact same thing multiple times yesterday and the KC coaching staff apparently never told him to check with the refs! That’s on the Chiefs…not on the referees . 

[jkeerie]

  On 12/11/2023 at 8:48 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This is the funniest one I remember. McClaurin said the ref said he was good. 

 

 

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I knew I had seen that happen!  I was trying to remember if it happened to the Bills or another team.  Thank you for posting this!

[Malazan]

  On 12/11/2023 at 4:01 PM, I am the egg man said:

Mahomes cried refs hadn’t been calling that on WR’s is an admission they routinely test the rules.

 

If that’s the case here, boo-hoo, they got caught.

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Reid's comments were rather surprising. He basically admitted they'll cheat until they get a warning. It's why they keep lining their lineman way back because he expects a "warning" about it before they start getting penalized for it.

[daz28]

  On 12/11/2023 at 10:11 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Now THIS is an example where the player is right to be pissed. Although he didnt do a good job of looking at the ref to confirm.

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The ref clearly was showing him where the line was.  He was a yard away, and moved up 6 inches.  

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 12/12/2023 at 1:09 AM, daz28 said:

The ref clearly was showing him where the line was.  He was a yard away, and moved up 6 inches.  

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Yeah, he checked, but checked without really looking at the ref and was looking away when he gave the ref the thumbs up. But damn.

[daz28]

  On 12/12/2023 at 1:23 AM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, he checked, but checked without really looking at the ref and was looking away when he gave the ref the thumbs up. But damn.

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I really like the way that linesman handled it.  He was like, "here's the line, so lineup where you think you should".  It's like Andy Reid wants the ref to guide them in like an air traffic controller on a carrier.  Heck, why not go out on the field, and push him into the right spot.  Better yet, have someone on the sideline, from your own team, doing it.  Doesn't seem like a lineman's responsibility and can even give the appearance of bias.