Bills/Cowboys early line opens at Bills -2

[DCofNC]

  On 12/11/2023 at 1:51 PM, Bob Jones said:

If he's got a 10-15mph tailwind, he probably could punch it through from 70 with a good hit. Did you see how far up the posts that 60 yarder was last night....with zero wind? Guy's got a cannon leg, for sure.

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Umm yeah, that ball was good from 70 or close to it.  If he gets a chance I think he can break the all time record with distance to spare.

[Dick_Cheney]

  On 12/11/2023 at 5:46 PM, DCofNC said:

Umm yeah, that ball was good from 70 or close to it.  If he gets a chance I think he can break the all time record with distance to spare.

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I had the same thought last night. Was probably the most impressive kick I have seen in recent memory.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:53 AM, Toyo321 said:

Dallas will be favored after they win tonight.  That line will shrink if they blow out Philly.

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I doubt it moves much…they have been Jekyll and Hyde home vs road this season.  If they blew out the eagles in Philly maybe the story is a little different 

[DCofNC]

  On 12/11/2023 at 5:16 PM, dave mcbride said:

Just looking at the offensive and defensive numbers across the board, the Cowboys are effing good. This is a tougher game than KC in certain respects. At least it's at home: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2023.htm.

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It’s a tougher game than KC in ALL respects.  The Cowboys are better on every front minus Mahomes, but Dak is playing just as well as Mahomes right now and has 4x the weapons. If the SB Champion doesn’t come from the NFC this year, something went really weird bc there’s nobody in the AFC on par with the Cowboys, Eagles or 9ers.   As stupid as it sounds, the best chance for the AFC is probably Baltimore because their D is really good and they can run the ball enough to control the clock, if Jackson can find a way to not choke, they could be the team in the AFC.  Besides them?? The Bills have every bit as good of chance to win as any other team in the AFC and probably will miss the playoffs completely to multiple back up QBs, it’s a bizarre year.

[zow2]

I'm just glad the game is in Orchard Park.  Feels like we have a decent shot.  If the game was at Big D, I don't think the Bills would walk out of there with a W.

[dave mcbride]

  On 12/11/2023 at 5:55 PM, DCofNC said:

It’s a tougher game than KC in ALL respects.  The Cowboys are better on every front minus Mahomes, but Dak is playing just as well as Mahomes right now and has 4x the weapons. If the SB Champion doesn’t come from the NFC this year, something went really weird bc there’s nobody in the AFC on par with the Cowboys, Eagles or 9ers.   As stupid as it sounds, the best chance for the AFC is probably Baltimore because their D is really good and they can run the ball enough to control the clock, if Jackson can find a way to not choke, they could be the team in the AFC.  Besides them?? The Bills have every bit as good of chance to win as any other team in the AFC and probably will miss the playoffs completely to multiple back up QBs, it’s a bizarre year.

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Well, the game is at home, and the Bills are a good home team: 24-6 since 2020. The only game they lost this year was one they should have won (Denver). 

 

As for the SB winner, assuming SF stays healthy, I expect them to steamroll all opponents in the postseason, including Baltimore. 

Edited December 11, 2023 by dave mcbride

[MJS]

  On 12/11/2023 at 5:55 PM, DCofNC said:

It’s a tougher game than KC in ALL respects.  The Cowboys are better on every front minus Mahomes, but Dak is playing just as well as Mahomes right now and has 4x the weapons. If the SB Champion doesn’t come from the NFC this year, something went really weird bc there’s nobody in the AFC on par with the Cowboys, Eagles or 9ers.   As stupid as it sounds, the best chance for the AFC is probably Baltimore because their D is really good and they can run the ball enough to control the clock, if Jackson can find a way to not choke, they could be the team in the AFC.  Besides them?? The Bills have every bit as good of chance to win as any other team in the AFC and probably will miss the playoffs completely to multiple back up QBs, it’s a bizarre year.

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The NFC is super top heavy while the AFC is deep and beating up on each other.

[JerseyBills]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:53 AM, Toyo321 said:

Dallas will be favored after they win tonight.  That line will shrink if they blow out Philly.

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We're currently 1.5 point favorites

[Murdox]

One thing is for sure - we will need to keep the Cowboys offense on their side of the field.  As soon as they get to our 42-44 yard line, they have 3 points absent a loss of yardage.  Aubrey may be the best kicker the NFL has ever seen, and we've seen some great ones like Tucker.

[Marcus Aurelius]

  On 12/11/2023 at 1:57 PM, buffalobillswin said:

Who is else is ready for 3 hours of “Yeahhhhhh here we go”!

 

kill me now 

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We had a Vietnamese technician working in our gang. Good natured guy, barely spoke English though. When we joked around and played practical jokes with him, he'd say ... HERE WE GO.

So this brings back memories.

We miss you Bahn Huyn ...

[Pete]

  On 12/11/2023 at 6:17 AM, Araiza Curse said:

 Not exactly intimidating. 

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That is what Bills Mafia is for!  
LFG BUFFALO!

LFG BILLS MAFIA!

[wppete]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:48 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

Don’t underestimate the power of the 12th man.  These boys usually bring some extra juice at home.

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Cold weather and Bills mafia. Going to be a challenge for The Cowboys. 

 

[Scott7975]

  On 12/11/2023 at 1:57 PM, buffalobillswin said:

Who is else is ready for 3 hours of “Yeahhhhhh here we go”!

 

kill me now 

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Thats the best part about it being home... he will have to use the silent count with our crowd

  On 12/11/2023 at 2:40 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

But 11 should get us a home game on wildcard weekend

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No, wildcard weekend we would play a division winner. It would be away.  

[appoo]

Probably the worst match up of the season for Buffalo. Dak is playing at an extremely high level, the Cowboys WRs are all cooking, and the Bills have a bunch of zone corners, fairly average backers in coverage, and outside of 43 straight up BAD cover backers, and precariously on the edge of washed safeties. 

 

Like if the Cowboys play well that's pretty much 35+ and there's nothing McDermott can do about that. 

 

Gonna be down to Allen putting up 350 and 4

Edited December 11, 2023 by appoo

[timekills17]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:04 PM, Dan Darragh said:

This might help you remember:

 

If you came from work, it was Monday.  If you came from church, it was Sunday.

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But what if he's a priest? 

[wppete]

Any word on AH Epanesa injury? We need him to play. Von is worthless out there, also think Kincaid has a shoulder injury, any word? 

[Southern_Bills]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:34 PM, wppete said:

Any word on AH Epanesa injury? We need him to play. Von is worthless out there, also think Kincaid has a shoulder injury, any word? 

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Von actually showed something against the Chiefs. Maybe he's finally getting it back, probably get suspended if he does just to spite the Bills lol.

[appoo]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:34 PM, wppete said:

Any word on AH Epanesa injury? We need him to play. Von is worthless out there, also think Kincaid has a shoulder injury, any word? 

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funny, Von finally had his "moment" this season. And it was massive. 

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:35 PM, Southern_Bills said:

 

Von actually showed something against the Chiefs. Maybe he's finally getting it back, probably get suspended if he does just to spite the Bills lol.

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Not gonna happen anytime soon. Legal process will take months. And with both alleged victim and Von saying nothing of the sort happened, neither the Bills nor NFL have any basis for suspending him without a lot more hard evidence. 

 

More than likely these charges are going to be dropped 

 

(which doesn't preclude fans from thinking Von is toxic...this is his 3rd public gross moment that may or may not be illegal)

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[wppete]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:35 PM, Southern_Bills said:

 

Von actually showed something against the Chiefs. Maybe he's finally getting it back, probably get suspended if he does just to spite the Bills lol.

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He a a fraction of what AJ is. We need AJ back in there and Von can come in and give AJ a breather. There is no comparison. 

[appoo]

  On 12/11/2023 at 7:37 PM, wppete said:

He a a fraction of what AJ is. We need AJ back in there and Von can come in and give AJ a breather. There is no comparison. 

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Von is basically a broken toy. He has one move, run really fast and hope the tackle doesn't catch him. That's how he got to Mahomes actually - the LT couldn't catch up. 

 

I've yet to see Von make a move that requires any kind of cut. Until he can do that he's purely a situational player