You Tube ST issue today

[Matt_In_NH]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

So are you saying no one saw the bills game until the Browns game was over? Or did the bills and KC local markets switch over?

I am out of market....I think this just affected out of market.   

[Bookie Man]

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[Matt_In_NH]

10 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

But the Bills game is on ST as are all games.  If I lived in Denver or LA the Denver-LA was on local TV so if I wanted ot watch the Bills game I stil lcould through ST. 

 

I get what you're saying, but the game was on ST.

It was on ST or it was on Youtube TV?   The local markets have games and ST has other rest of the 1PM and 4PM window games that are leftover whatever that is in each market.  Generally that means you can watch whatever game you want.

 

btw I found a way to watch and what really sucked is they chose to broadcast the brown kneeling down which was during the Cook TD.

18 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

there is an easy work around which DTV had for years. If you are paying for Sunday ticket and there is a blackout issue on the local channel (eg, prior local game going long or your local game getting cut because it is a blowout), then DTV would switch to have the game available on the Sunday ticket channel For that game. 
 

you can’t trigger a local blackout and then not show the game on any channel. 
 

I think the local Buffalo and KC markets had it but a chump like me in the Bos market had to resort to other options.

[MasterStrategist]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

CBS might be a little to blame. But YouTube can easily get around it, just like DTV used to. It’s just amateur hour over at YouTube. They clearly weren’t ready for this. No understanding of how NFL broadcasting works.

DirectTV NEVER let you watch a local/blackout game on Sunday ticket.

 

Only exception was the gamemix channel, which I mentioned YTV has botched all season.

 

So I don't necessarily blame YouTube.  I blame CBS, which is carrying the local broadcast and decided they couldn't put a split screen or at least small screen on Bills/Chiefs at end of Browns game.

 

CBS should be embarrassed in the year 2023.  Go back several decades and technology might not have allowed it.  Sunday ticket has AWAYS been clear that local broadcasts are blacked out 

[zow2]

It was a CBS national game.  So for all of us out of market viewers, our Sunday Ticket for this game was blacked out.  I don’t see any way around it.  Browns game just went ridiculously long.

[qwksilver]

7 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I am out of market....I think this just affected out of market.   

The ST is supposed to prevent out of market issues. This never happened with DTV.

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, qwksilver said:

The ST is supposed to prevent out of market issues. This never happened with DTV.

Actually it did.  You could never watch a local/blackout game on Directv ST either.

 

Only exception was the gamemix channel.

 

CBS botched this, plain and simple.  It's easy to put a multiview or split screen feed.

[Jerry Jabber]

I have Direct TV and the Sunday ticket. Currently, Direct TV is not showing CBS due to a dispute and YouTube did not show the game at all since it was supposed to be on local TV. Luckily I had Amazon Prime, but missed most of the first quarter due to the Browns game.

 

Anyone know how to contact YouTube and complain?

Edited December 11, 2023 by Jerry Jabber

[stevestojan]

I couldn’t figure out why I didn’t have this problem on Sunday Ticket. But it seems because I’m in So Cal and that’s one of the few areas where the Bills game WASN’T the local 4:25 game, I got to see it as soon as it started. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

DirectTV NEVER let you watch a local/blackout game on Sunday ticket.

 

Only exception was the gamemix channel, which I mentioned YTV has botched all season.

 

So I don't necessarily blame YouTube.  I blame CBS, which is carrying the local broadcast and decided they couldn't put a split screen or at least small screen on Bills/Chiefs at end of Browns game.

 

CBS should be embarrassed in the year 2023.  Go back several decades and technology might not have allowed it.  Sunday ticket has AWAYS been clear that local broadcasts are blacked out 

on DTV, if a game is a local game (and blackout applies to Sunday ticket) and there was some delay in showing it, DTV would show it on the Sunday ticket channel Feed. I remember this happening on several occasions. One time was when this exact thing happened— the local 1 PM game went long. Another time was when the local game (a bills blowout loss) was a snoozer and CBS shifted to a different game late. You could then see the Bills game on the Sunday ticket channel. 
 

I don’t disagree with you that blackout restrictions apply. But I remember DTV being able to get around those when the  local channel wasn’t broadcasting the game it was supposed to. 
 

Blackout restrictions are dumb, but they can’t black out a game and then not show it on the local channel (or claim that that prevents you from seeing it on a Sunday ticket channel). 

[Simon]

43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

So are you saying no one saw the bills game until the Browns game was over? Or did the bills and KC local markets switch over?

 

I'm guessing local markets switched by contractual obligation, but I had to pull up a pirate stream here in Western PA to see most of the 1st qrtr.

[Matt_In_NH]

8 minutes ago, qwksilver said:

The ST is supposed to prevent out of market issues. This never happened with DTV.

Has this scenario ever come up for the bills?   The only way is the bills are in the national window at 4:25 window and the earlier games goes longer than 4:25.  That is not too common of an occurrence.  I cannot recall this ever happening where this scenario would have presented itself.  

[DrDawkinstein]

As someone tangent to the industry, I blame this on CBS.

[MasterStrategist]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

on DTV, if a game is a local game (and blackout applies to Sunday ticket) and there was some delay in showing it, DTV would show it on the Sunday ticket channel Feed. I remember this happening on several occasions. One time was when this exact thing happened— the local 1 PM game went long. Another time was when the local game (a bills blowout loss) was a snoozer and CBS shifted to a different game late. You could then see the Bills game on the Sunday ticket channel. 
 

I don’t disagree with you that blackout restrictions apply. But I remember DTV being able to get around those when the  local channel wasn’t broadcasting the game it was supposed to. 
 

Blackout restrictions are dumb, but they can’t black out a game and then not show it on the local channel (or claim that that prevents you from seeing it on a Sunday ticket channel). 

Im 100% sure you are incorrect, with how Directv handled this.  I've had it for 20+ years previously and It was only the gamemix that allowed blackout feeds to be viewed.  

 

Regardless, I'm in agreement with you on blackout rules.  Alot of out of towner Bills fans (I'm in Pitt too), were robbed out of 1/8-1/4 of a game today.  In the future, NFL and broadcasts need to figure that out 

[Sierra Foothills]

I was watching in the SF Bay Area. I assumed because it was the national game that it would not be available on YouTube TV/Sunday Ticket.

 

I went to Hulu to watch the CBS feed (local affiliate KPIX). Buf-KC was listed but they stayed with the Jax-Cle game. I went over to YouTube TV/Sunday Ticket and they had Buf-KC listed stand alone and as part of their 4 game multi-view. In both instances the feed was Jax-Cle. I was not able to watch the Bills game.

 

It ended up that I had to wait until after Jax-Cle was over. This meant I had to endure Jacksonville's statistically remote attempt at coming back from 2 scores down. I had to watch the Cleveland victory formation. Finally the game ended and after a LONG commercial break joined the Buf-KC with just 3 minutes left in the first quarter. I missed the Epenesa INT and the Cook TD. Interestingly the game was available on Sunday Ticket even though it was on local broadcast TV.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

12 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Im 100% sure you are incorrect, with how Directv handled this.  I've had it for 20+ years previously and It was only the gamemix that allowed blackout feeds to be viewed.  

 

Regardless, I'm in agreement with you on blackout rules.  Alot of out of towner Bills fans (I'm in Pitt too), were robbed out of 1/8-1/4 of a game today.  In the future, NFL and broadcasts need to figure that out 

So, YouTube claimed they did what I said they needed to do— open the Sunday ticket feed. Except they didn’t:

 

 

[gtu100]

54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

So are you saying no one saw the bills game until the Browns game was over? Or did the bills and KC local markets switch over?

I live in Watertown, NY and our local CBS did not switch over until after the Browns game ended.

[pabillsfans]

Since Buf-KC was a National broadcast I was able to bring the game up on NFL+ in real time.  I'm in the Philly/Harrisburg market so the Cle-Jax game was on the local CBS television.

[billsfan714]

I pay for Sunday Ticket to not have this crap happen, its BS.

[K12A17]

I live in Arkansas and have YouTube Tv and ST I’m in the Chiefs market. Mine switched to the Bills game at the start of the game