Captain Hindsight Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Mahomes and Reid are getting destroyed in the national talk shows this morning. I have a sneaking suspicion the Chiefs miss the playoffs. Watch them lose to a motivated NE team, that was the first team ever flexed out of MNF, this week. Still have Cinci who is playing well despite losing Burrow. The AFC is really muddled now and could see them falling apart Honestly, they look tired to me. They have basically played an entire season extra the last few years. Might finally be catching up to them 1 Quote
Sestak4ever Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Big Blitz said: On Get Up this morning Rex Ryan said in all his years of coaching he was never warned by an official about someone lining up Offside. He mentioned the refs might say an offensive tackle might be pushing the limit one way or the other, but that’s it. Robert Griffin has no clue and this only adds to my take on him as a waste of an NFL talking head. 4 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said: This stuff is to funny , the same bills fans that where disrespecting their team, calling for everyone to be fired , now acting like there the best team in the world because they nearly escaped with a win , a game in which buffalo dominated the chiefs , and the chiefs played pretty bad, and only managed to escape with the win. Hey man... I am pro-McD and never advocated for what you say. It is pretty funny... Because Mahomes is a whiny little self-entitled brat who thinks the rules don't apply to him. For the SuperBowl Champs to be so unbecoming says a lot, especially for a team that caught so many breaks through the years! They are coming unglued! Say what you want about Tom Brady, he pouted and left the field not shaking hands at times... BUT he never pulled this bad of a sore loser act Mahomes and the classless Chiefs organization pulled. Only one thing could get better. Tay Tay & Brittany Mahomes need to defend their baby boys! 😆 Edited December 11, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Quote
Dr. K Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) It's so illogical for Mahommes and the Chiefs and their fans to whine that the official negated a great play. He threw the flag the second the ball was snapped, before Mahommes threw the ball, before Kelsay caught it, before the lateral to Toney and the TD. As far as he was concerned he was calling a five-yard penalty on an egregious offside alignment. What was he supposed to do, say, "Okay, in this last minute I no longer enforce the Offside rule no matter how blatantly the player violates it?" I get that the Chiefs are frustrated that this amazing play was negated because of this flag. If it happened to the Bills I would be suicidal. But the only way the ref could have known this is if he had a time machine. Blame Kadarius Toney for a dumb mistake. And don't blame the ref for not warning him. Toney was lined up in tight, right up against the linemen, inside of the wide receiver. He was miles away from the sideline ref, and only ten feet away from the ball and the center. He didn't need the ref to warn him if he was lined up wrong. He just had to look ten feet to his right, see the ball, and fix it himself. Was the ref supposed to blow his whistle, run onto the field and tell him where to stand? Edited December 11, 2023 by Dr. K 3 2 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said: On Get Up this morning Rex Ryan said in all his years of coaching he was never warned by an official about someone lining up Offside. He mentioned the refs might say an offensive tackle might be pushing the limit one way or the other, but that’s it. Robert Griffin has no clue and this only adds to my take on him as a waste of an NFL talking head. Thank You! I played lineman in high school. They didn't warn sh*t back in the day! Mahomes needs to go back to elementary school... 3 minutes ago, Dr. K said: It's so illogical for Mahommes and the Chiefs and their fans to whine that the official negated a great play. He threw the flag the second the ball was snapped, before Mahommes threw the ball, before Kelsay caught it, before the lateral to Toney and the TD. As far as he was concerned he was calling a five-yard penalty on an egregious offside alignment. What was he supposed to do, say, "Okay, in this last minute I no longer enforce the Offside rule no matter how blatantly the player violates it?" I get that the Chiefs are frustrated that this amazing play was negated because of this flag. If it happened to the Bills I would be suicidal. But the only way the ref could have known this is if he had a time machine. Blame Kadarius Toney for a dumb mistake. And don't blame the ref for not warning him. Toney was lined up in tight, right up against the linemen, inside of the wide receiver. He was miles away from the sideline ref, and only ten feet away from the ball and the center. He didn't need the ref to warn him if he was lined up wrong. He just had to look ten feet to his right, see the ball, and fix it himself. Was the ref supposed to blow his whistle, run onto the field and tell him where to stand? Even the announcer said there was a flag on play the second it was snapped. KC home announcer. Yet, he said it was on the D. 😆 Arrogant little prick! He was in for a rude awakening! Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Guess this makes Kermit a… Krabby Patty 5 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Lost a lot of respect for Mahomes after seeing him whine to Josh in the post game handshake. What a little B. 1 3 2 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, boyst said: what is even more alamrming to me is looking at the RT specfically. many OL do this. they're practiceally in the backfield and they are supposed to be on the LOS.the off ball WR's and split are even aligned ahead of the RT Yeah... They've been getting away with thar for years now on obvious passing plays. Still fundamentally not kosher. Quote
pocoboy Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I played lineman in high school. They didn't warn sh*t back in the day! At high school games, it's pretty clear that if you're an end and ask the line judge if you're position is acceptable under the rules, they'll tell you. That doesn't mean that Toney even thought to ask. But I do think the officials will oblige if asked. 10 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah... They've been getting away with thar for years now on obvious passing plays. Still fundamentally not kosher. The NFL needs to start clamping down on the OL movement as far as I'm concerned. Period. These hand motions, swiveling the head around, up and down crap. Just stop it. The rule is that you're supposed to come set, and you know the snap count. Deal with it. If the DL gets an advantage, be better. This is right up there with these "bang bang" (which always means 1/2 to 1 second early, never a fraction of a second late) plays that always used to be DPI. They'll call BS hand fouls that have no bearing on the play all day, but let a DB wrap up a receiver without any real chance to catch the ball and nothing. 2 1 Quote
Murdox Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pocoboy said: At high school games, it's pretty clear that if you're an end and ask the line judge if you're position is acceptable under the rules, they'll tell you. That doesn't mean that Toney even thought to ask. But I do think the officials will oblige if asked. The receivers should be able to tell where the ball is and adjust accordingly. Suddenly the world of Chiefs' fans want to imply that this is rocket science. Toney made a mistake and it was a penalty. That's exactly how it's supposed to be. Edited December 11, 2023 by Murdox 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) You probably need to be logged in to see the thread, though you can log in with Google on a browser, you don't need a special account or the app Do it. It will rest your Bills fans soul. Edited December 11, 2023 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 When we play them in the playoffs this year (yet again in Burrowhead) it's going to be about "time for payback, Bills won't be able to count on the refs, can't beat us when it matters" etc. So it will be even better to see the reaction postgame after we end their season! 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, Murdox said: The receivers should be able to tell where the ball is and adjust accordingly. Toney made a mistake and it was a penalty. That's exactly how it's supposed to be. Yeah, because he was sooo way off. He was on Bills side of ball practically! Quote
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Just saw it called The Patty Melt online and I can't stop laughing. 9 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Just saw it called The Patty Melt online and I can't stop laughing. Love it! 😆 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, pocoboy said: At high school games, it's pretty clear that if you're an end and ask the line judge if you're position is acceptable under the rules, they'll tell you. That doesn't mean that Toney even thought to ask. But I do think the officials will oblige if asked. They will, at the college and at the NFL level. Now, that said...it's happened that the official near the player will signal OK, the LJ on the opposite side will call a penalty, and it will stand. But that's relatively rare when the player checks their position. And Cheffers said Toney didn't. Quote
Success Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Emotions get the best of many players. And Mahomes has had 2 weeks in a row of game-deciding calls. The thing is, LAST week is the one he should have complained about. Not the one that was actually a correct call. The worst part was his comment to Allen. I don't think I've seen a player do that before. 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Success said: Emotions get the best of many players. And Mahomes has had 2 weeks in a row of game-deciding calls. The thing is, LAST week is the one he should have complained about. Not the one that was actually a correct call. The worst part was his comment to Allen. I don't think I've seen a player do that before. That bothered me more than anything. Allen is the closest thing to a peer physically in the NFL and supposedly a good friend of his and that was very disrespectful. I hope he calls Josh to apologize 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Success said: Emotions get the best of many players. And Mahomes has had 2 weeks in a row of game-deciding calls. The thing is, LAST week is the one he should have complained about. Not the one that was actually a correct call. The worst part was his comment to Allen. I don't think I've seen a player do that before. IMO this is being overblown. Allen is actually friends with Mahomes. Who knows what was said before the camera caught what it did. Allen may have said something like "what a crazy play with Kelce lateral!" and Mahomes was just responding to that. It was still poor yes.....but we don't know the full context. If the players were not legit friends, then yes it would be much worse and disrespectful Edited December 11, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
LabattBlue Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Lost a lot of respect for Mahomes after seeing him whine to Josh in the post game handshake. What a little B. I agree. I know it is a sport where players are making millions of dollars, but at the end of the game there should still be sportsmanship. Be a good winner, and be a good loser. Reid and Mahomes deserve all the criticism they receive. 2 Quote
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