FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Im not talking about Josh’s throw, I’m talking about the bad rounded cut made by Diggs. He got wide open. Better ball and it’s 6. Quote
Magox Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: The problem on that play had nothing to do with effort. It was not even close to being contested. The ball was lollipopped a few yards short of Diggs, who had beat his man by 2 steps. There are plays to critique when it comes to Diggs, but that’s not one of them. It is one of them, they showed an overhead view of the play and the replay showed Diggs had a lot of open room and the move and cut he made was telegraphed and rounded, with a good move and cut and with the leverage he had on the defender who was essentially flat footed, if Diggs had been the Diggs of 6 weeks ago he would have had 5 steps on the guy. Just now, FireChans said: He got wide open. Better ball and it’s 6. You’re not listening Quote
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: The problem on that play had nothing to do with effort. It was not even close to being contested. The ball was lollipopped a few yards short of Diggs, who had beat his man by 2 steps. There are plays to critique when it comes to Diggs, but that’s not one of them. Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 I’m betting we find out he’s been dinged. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Magox said: It is one of them, they showed an overhead view of the play and the replay showed Diggs had a lot of open room and the move and cut he made was telegraphed and rounded, with a good move and cut and with the leverage he had on the defender who was essentially flat footed, if Diggs had been the Diggs of 6 weeks ago he would have had 5 steps on the guy. You’re not listening So if it was the Diggs of 6 weeks ago, he would’ve still had to make a miracle contested jumping catch because Josh would’ve still underthrown him a lollipop across his body but Diggs would’ve been even more open for a TD with a good pass? That’s fair, I agree. 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! I’m leaning towards Diggs not being a Bill next year tbh. Just don’t think that was a critiquable play. Quote
Magox Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: So if it was the Diggs of 6 weeks ago, he would’ve still had to make a miracle contested jumping catch because Josh would’ve still underthrown him a lollipop across his body but Diggs would’ve been even more open for a TD with a good pass? That’s fair, I agree. You’re still not listening. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s fair, I agree. I’m leaning towards Diggs not being a Bill next year tbh. Just don’t think that was a critiquable play. I think some are taking my criticism as a test of his effort or character. It’s not. But watching him immediately AFTER the interception he looked more like Von Miller than a guy who can go full speed. He too looks like he’s playing on slippery ice. Edited December 24, 2023 by SoCal Deek Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Are we even having this conversation if Josh sets his feet and doesn't overthrow him on the bomb for a TD? Edited December 24, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg Quote
FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Magox said: You’re still not listening. I am. Diggs could’ve ran a better route and gotten even more open than open. I agree. Quote
Drew21PA Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Amazing where people get their opinions lol what the heck? Only thing is MAYBE Diggs is in a slight slump. Nothing else happens josh under threw 6 - his speed is still there hes made some incredible catches the last couple weeks - he’s engaged and committed Quote
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Amazing where people get their opinions lol what the heck? Only thing is MAYBE Diggs is in a slight slump. Nothing else happens josh under threw 6 - his speed is still there hes made some incredible catches the last couple weeks - he’s engaged and committed He’s not in a slump. I’m certain he’s playing hurt. Unfortunately the Bills put themselves in a position that both he and his coaches feel he has to be on the field instead of resting him for the playoffs. 1 1 Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Like I said above I think he’s dealing with an injury. Looks like we’re rolling with him @ less that 100% because it’s not like we have a ton of other legit options. Quote
DanInUticaTampa Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 He seemed to be on the sidelines a lot last night. Does anyone know his snap count? I'm thinking there is a nagging injury 1 1 Quote
QB Bills Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 He's been on the sidelines a lot more than he should be the last few weeks. He's definitely banged up. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 His stats have been horrible since Brady took over, not sure why. Quote
nedboy7 Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 I guess its time to trade Kincaid. Such a lack of logic on this board. Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! I think all that states is he has bought in to the team mentality if he hadn't in the past. If he had a slightly deeper ball thrown to him, he would have been over 100 yards yesterday and the rout would have been on. No disrespect to Josh because it was a hard throw but that was on Josh. Quote
Toledo Bill Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 He hurt himself putting on one of those “outfits” he’s been wearing. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: He isn’t running full speed on any play right now. His effort anfter he knew it was underthrown was minimal at best. I’m guessing it’s because he can’t cut on that ankle/knee. Our #1 receiver is clearly hurt. His longest catch yesterday was for ELEVEN yards. In previous years that underthrow by Allen wouldn’t have been a pick because Diggs would have fought back for the ball and broken it up. Idk what is up with him, but I’ve noticed he has been getting almost no separation. Every completion his way has been a very tight window throw. The number back it up as well. His numbers have fallen off a cliff after starting the year top 5 in the league. 1 Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: I guess its time to trade Kincaid. Such a lack of logic on this board. So to recap we would have fired McDermott, Beane. We would have cut Sam Martin, Oliver, Hyde, Poyer, Rapp, Cook, Dane, Dodson, Epenesa, and Gabe. Am I missing anyone? These guys are humans and make mistakes but this board tends to overreact. Can you imagine if we lost yesterday? Quote
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