Chiefs WR Justyn Ross suspended 6 games, but back with the team Monday?

[Beck Water]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chiefs-wr-gets-handed-a-6-game-suspension/ar-AA1le7g1?cvid=117b54795d684d39a11e1609a4773c32&ei=24

 

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Ross, who went undrafted out of Clemson University, has missed the team’s last five games after being placed on the Commissioner Exempt List, and he will be suspended by the NFL for violating its personal conduct policy, per Adam Schefter.

Luckily for the Chiefs, games missed by a player while on the Commissioner Exempt List count toward his suspension, and thus he will be able to rejoin his team on Monday.

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So he's been on the commissioner's exempt list, getting paid to sit out while his domestic violence investigation took place

 

Now that he's been suspended for 6 games, subtract his time on the exempt list and...Voila!  He will miss 1 more game

 

How does this work as far as his salary?

 

-gets paid while on exempt list

-doesn't get paid/loses pro-rated signing bonus while suspended

 

So does he have to pay back the salary he was paid while exempt?

Or does the team "eat it" to get the player back?

[90sBills]

Not sure KC’s 7th WR deserves a thread around here. lol 

[NoSaint]

  On 12/9/2023 at 3:55 AM, Beck Water said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chiefs-wr-gets-handed-a-6-game-suspension/ar-AA1le7g1?cvid=117b54795d684d39a11e1609a4773c32&ei=24

 

 

So he's been on the commissioner's exempt list, getting paid to sit out while his domestic violence investigation took place

 

Now that he's been suspended for 6 games, subtract his time on the exempt list and...Voila!  He will miss 1 more game

 

How does this work as far as his salary?

 

-gets paid while on exempt list

-doesn't get paid/loses pro-rated signing bonus while suspended

 

So does he have to pay back the salary he was paid while exempt?

Or does the team "eat it" to get the player back?

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I don’t know the salary implications but if putting guys on the list before figuring out the outcome, that should count against their suspension as time served.

[Beck Water]

  On 12/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, 90sBills said:

Not sure KC’s 7th WR deserves a thread around here. lol 

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I'm not sure the 7th WR deserves a thread

 

It's more the info about time on the exempt list being subtracted from his suspension

 

And the question to which I don't know the answer - since exempt list games are "paid to sit out" but suspension games are "forfeit pay and prorated bonus", how does that work in this situation?

 

At least, that's what interested me, and seemed like it might get more attention, maybe an answer from someone who knows, in its own thread.

  On 12/9/2023 at 4:15 AM, NoSaint said:

I don’t know the salary implications but if putting guys on the list before figuring out the outcome, that should count against their suspension as time served.

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The "time served" aspect makes sense to me, it's how is the salary handled? that I question.

 

Edit: I just found a possible answer.   Per this article which references Schefter, he has to pay the salary back:

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-nfl/news/nfl-hands-down-ruling-on-former-clemson-wr-justyn-ross-43405

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The NFL ruled a six-game suspension for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy, per ESPN's Adam Schefter. Since Ross has already been on the league's Exempt List for five games, he will sit out one more and have served the punishment.

According to Schefter, Ross must also pay back the six game checks he would've received in that period.

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Edited December 9, 2023 by Beck Water

[NoSaint]

Pft says the same

[BuffaloBillyG]

So, in October Ross was arrested for misdemeanor DV and placed on the exempt list. That appears to have been upgraded to a felony DV. Then served with a suspension....without a conviction in court? Very interesting considering current events with a player on our team. 

[pkwwjd]

I read this morning that he will have to pay back the five game checks for time served

[H2o]

  On 12/9/2023 at 1:47 PM, pkwwjd said:

I read this morning that he will have to pay back the five game checks for time served

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Yeah, that alone could mess him up bad being he's not making that much in the first place. Good thing UPS is hiring. 

[Doc]

Who?

[YoloinOhio]

  On 12/9/2023 at 1:45 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

So, in October Ross was arrested for misdemeanor DV and placed on the exempt list. That appears to have been upgraded to a felony DV. Then served with a suspension....without a conviction in court? Very interesting considering current events with a player on our team. 

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Was he charged? If so that’s why he went on the exempt list. I remember reading that Roger wasn’t  going to put von on the list until/unless he got charged

Edited December 9, 2023 by YoloinOhio

[Big Turk]

He was on the Exempt List for 5 weeks, which count towards his suspension, meaning he only has 1 more game left.

 

He does, however, have to pay back the 5 weeks of game checks he got while on the Exempt List.

[mannc]

  On 12/9/2023 at 2:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Was he charged? If so that’s why he went on the exempt list. I remember reading that Roger wasn’t  going to put von on the list until/unless he got charged

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But Von was/has been charged with a felony assault. Not sure about Ross.

[Mango]

  On 12/9/2023 at 2:45 PM, mannc said:

But Von was/has been charged with a felony assault. Not sure about Ross.

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Ross was charged with a misdemeanor.  

[mannc]

  On 12/9/2023 at 2:50 PM, Mango said:

Ross was charged with a misdemeanor.  

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Upgraded to a felony…

[BuffaloBillyG]

  On 12/9/2023 at 2:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Was he charged? If so that’s why he went on the exempt list. I remember reading that Roger wasn’t  going to put von on the list until/unless he got charged

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From what I understand they are waiting to see if formal charges are filed. Not sure if the CBA comes into play with that timeline or not. 

 

However, it's interesting (to me at least) to see the kind of timeline and what scope we could see could/should expect should there be a filing. 

[YoloinOhio]

  On 12/9/2023 at 2:45 PM, mannc said:

But Von was/has been charged with a felony assault. Not sure about Ross.

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Was he actually charged?  I’m reading that he has not been and won’t go on the list until he is

Edited December 9, 2023 by YoloinOhio

[mannc]

  On 12/9/2023 at 3:12 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Was he actually charged?  I’m reading that he has not been and won’t go on the list until he is

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He’s been charged, arrested and posted bail.  Who said he hasn’t been charged?

[YoloinOhio]

  On 12/9/2023 at 3:21 PM, mannc said:

He’s been charged, arrested and posted bail.  Who said he hasn’t been charged?

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He’s facing charges, but apparently Roger needs formal charges 

https://www.post-journal.com/sports/local-sports/2023/12/von-miller-practices-while-facing-charges/#:~:text=Miller faces a charge of,years and have children together.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

  On 12/9/2023 at 4:24 PM, YoloinOhio said:

He’s facing charges, but apparently Roger needs formal charges 

https://www.post-journal.com/sports/local-sports/2023/12/von-miller-practices-while-facing-charges/#:~:text=Miller faces a charge of,years and have children together.

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when charges just aren't formal enough: "casual Friday charges"

 

[Bferra13]

  On 12/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, 90sBills said:

Not sure KC’s 7th WR deserves a thread around here. lol 

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More worthy than Phillys security dude. Like who frickin cares.