Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[McBean]

34 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

Oh stop with this Dalton ended our streak nonsense.  That's loser mentality, same as the diaper wearers who always say we "didn't deserve to win" our close games.  Similar to when all someone sees is the 1 turnover in a 4 TD game.

 

The rest of the game matters.  The rest of the season matters.  Dalton was a great story, but NO MORE RELEVANT to our season or success than any other play or game through our or anyone else in the AFC's season.  We won as many games as we needed to win.  Anything else is irrelevant because Dalton doesn't even get mentioned if we had a different result in ANY of our games.  One additional win or loss and what someone else did for another team isn't even a blip on our radar.

Softest schedule in the league and a negative point differential that year.

 

but please, carry on how bozo the clown McClap “changed” this culture.

 

spare me

[wettlaufer]

21 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

What people who worked closely with McDermott think of his coaching and leadership qualities is absolutely news. If you don't think so then don't read it.

 

"Attacking his character". Cry me a river. You could claim any criticism of your job performance as having your character attacked if you really wanted to.

 

Part of being a coach is being a leader. If you're not allowed to describe the stupid things McDermott has done to make people question his leadership abilities because it might *gasp* "attack his character" then how do you suggest people evaluate his leadership skills?

 

Coach McDermott in film session with DBs:

McD: "Now, Siran, you began to turn your hips here and man, did you really whiff on the tackle because of that."

Siran: "YOU'RE ATTACKING MY CHARACTER AND MY FAMILY!"

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, boco357 said:

Damn Brown and Tasker killing Dunne.

 

Not shocking.  They work for the Bills.  They kinda have to.

[WotAGuy]

16 minutes ago, boater said:

The McDermott 9/11 speech was four years ago.

 

How many of you here can be found not saying something stupid the past four years?

I wish I had used a 9/11 analogy instead of telling my wife she picked up a few pounds. 

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, wettlaufer said:

 

Dunne didn't call him that. An interview subject did. Is every comment fair? Probably not. But let's look at the entire body of the work rather than latching onto the dumb 9/11 comment and one person going over the edge and playing armchair psychiatrist. It's a pretty damning work that reflects commentary from 25 football professionals. It's not a hit piece or an attack on McD's character. That is whiny nonsense from McD...again.

 

All of it is rolled up together, why in the world would McDermott look at it as not coming from the same overall thing.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 12/7/2023 at 10:24 AM, Roundybout said:

https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
 

 

A very long read, and the other parts are only for paid subscribers, but his sources paint a picture of McD as a narcissistic control freak who won’t take accountability for anything. 
 

 

Do with this what you will. 

I'm honestly amazed YOU of all people were the one to start this thread.

 

[Rigotz]

On the topic of McDermott addressing this article publicly and saying it's an "attack on his character" ...

 

I have a different take.

 

The Bills have their backs against the wall. They already have an "us vs the world" mentality.

 

What if their coach is trying to lean into this and get even more juice out of the "us vs the world" narrative?

 

It would make sense, tactically.

[Scott7975]

42 minutes ago, eme123 said:

At the end of the day 25 former players, coaches, and staff decided to give their two cents on what an aweful person mcdermott is. What is really amazing is not one of these 25 people was willing to offer their name with their thoughts. 

 

Well you obviously didn't read it either.  Some of them did allow their names to be published and some of them had good things to say about McD.  Really people, if you have not read the full article, do not spout stuff about what you don't know.  Thats how fake facts come into existence. 

[BuffaloMatt]

This is a fuc$ing hit piece because Dunne didn't get press access to the Bills for his new website/podcast/etc. I hope the team rallies around McD!

[Pasaluki]

9 minutes ago, wettlaufer said:

It's not a hit piece or an attack on McD's character.

 

I mean it kind of is. Do you find the piece to be objective or comprehensive in any way or just people saying mean things? 

[BuffaloMatt]

1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said:

This is a fuc$ing hit piece because Dunne didn't get press access to the Bills for his new website/podcast/etc. I hope the team rallies around McD!

Citing anonymous disgruntled prior coaches and players who didn't say anything when they could have had have their names attached to it. And something that happened four years ago that was twisted to make it seem worse then it was. 

[DrDawkinstein]

I'm re-linking all 3 articles since it's becoming clear more folks are commenting than bothering to read even the free parts.

 

Part 1: Blame Game

Part 2: Lost in Translation

Part 3: Let Josh be Josh

[Wayne Arnold]

14 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

I'm sure McD is loving trying to prepare and plan for a game having to deal with all this media crap and Monday morning quarterbacking.  

 

Cutting nose of to spite face this fan base is doing.   Sad to sit back and watch it.

 

I think if Bass misses another FG, we burn McD at the stake outside of Jims Steakout.

 

Good to see some of you are preparing to blame Sunday's loss on Dunne and the fanbase.

 

McDermott would be proud.

[julian]

25 minutes ago, boater said:

The McDermott 9/11 speech was four years ago.

 

How many of you here can be found not saying something stupid the past four years?

I don’t particularly think what he said was so unforgivable, everyone has said things in the past they wish they hadn’t.

 

 It’s the fact he didn’t have enough awareness and common sense to realize it was likely to offend someone when speaking in a room of 60+ people.

 

 It’s the stupidity of not knowing better that has me wondering if he’s smart enough to lead.

[Warcodered]

9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's great to see the outpouring of guys coming out to defend McDermott and say what a difference he made in their lives and how these stories are straight up unfair and BS. 

 

You can tell the players are pissed that Dunne decided to hatchet job their beloved and respected HC. 

 

 

Are you being sarcastic or is there actual things being put out that you for some reason haven't linked or posted here?

[BuffaloRebound]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Well you obviously didn't read it either.  Some of them did allow their names to be published and some of them had good things to say about McD.  Really people, if you have not read the full article, do not spout stuff about what you don't know.  Thats how fake facts come into existence. 

I’m not paying $8 to read anonymous quotes from kooks like Quinton Spain, Cole Beasley and Jon Feliciano.  Clearly you subscribe and pay money to read this guy’s stuff.  Somebody who read the full article states the only 2 guys to put their names to what they said were Lee Smith and Dimarco who both had positive comments.  How do we know the other 23 wasn’t mostly positive comments mixed in with the kooks above and 1 or 2 disgruntled firmer assistants?  

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, julian said:

I don’t particularly think what he said was so unforgivable, everyone has said things in the past they wish they hadn’t.

 

 It’s the fact he didn’t have enough awareness and common sense to realize it was likely to offend someone when speaking in a room of 60+ people.

 

 It’s the stupidity of not knowing better that has me wondering if he’s smart enough to lead.

 

And even if it's not offensive, is what they accomplished so great or impressive? Especially given how lax security was back then?

 

It's like his other example of teamwork. He seems to not think these things through to a logical, motivating conclusion.

 

"Take the “Niagara Falls” speech. In December 2021, locals will recall the news of a woman deliberately driving into the waterway that spills into the falls. She drifted down the Niagara River before her vehicle was lodged against a rock about 50 yards from the brink. McDermott studied up and pieced together a speech. The coach explained how members from the Coast Guard did everything they could to save the woman. He built up the drama. Players held on tight for an inspiring apex, and… nothing. He said the woman died. End of story. The complete absence of a point had some players biting their tongues, trying their hardest not to laugh."

[Blackbeard]

1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Good to see some of you are preparing to blame Sunday's loss on Dunne and the fanbase.

 

McDermott would be proud.

No one's blaming crap.

 

The dude is under way too much unwarranted bs right now, let alone try to coach the team.

 

Not everyone thinks hes this HORRIBLE coach.  Some actually understand hindsight and monday morning quarterbacking.

[Scott7975]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’m not paying $8 to read anonymous quotes from kooks like Quinton Spain, Cole Beasley and Jon Feliciano.  Clearly you subscribe and pay money to read this guy’s stuff.  Somebody who read the full article states the only 2 guys to put their names to what they said were Lee Smith and Dimarco who both had positive comments.  How do we know the other 23 wasn’t mostly positive comments mixed in with the kooks above and 1 or 2 disgruntled firmer assistants?  

 

I don't care if you read the article or not.  What I care about is people posting false information.  You cannot speak on an article that you didn't read and spout stuff out there that is factually incorrect.  There were more than just 2 people and it doesn't matter that some remain anonymous.  They remain anonymous because if could affect their jobs.  People have a right to do so.  Its very common in the media.

 

and yes, there were a bunch of positive comments.  Thats kinda the point.  People think its entirely one sided when it isn't.  Not everything said was bad.  You want to make up ***** about his article that you didn't even read and believe what you want to believe just because you are a McD homer.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Scott7975

[Wayne Arnold]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I'm re-linking all 3 articles since it's becoming clear more folks are commenting than bothering to read even the free parts.

 

Part 1: Blame Game

Part 2: Lost in Translation

Part 3: Let Josh be Josh

 

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His intent — players repeat — is pure.

 

The coach who ended the Bills’ 17-year playoff drought realizes how badly locals are dying for their first Super Bowl. The quest consumes him.

“He never, ever, ever does a damn thing with any other intention than to empower and grow the Buffalo Bills franchise,” this ex-Bill said. “That’s a fact. Now, whether or not the *****’s going to work or whether or not the players are going to receive it well? That’s a different conversation. But it doesn’t come from an evil ‘Sean McDermott wants all the praise and all the credit.’ He genuinely wants every person in that organization to thrive and win a lot of games to the point of exhaustion.

 

“All he wants to do is help that team win. Now, that’s the truth.”

 

Oh no - what an ATTACK on McDermott's CHARACTER! It's a SMEAR CAMPAIGN! You guys I'm throwing up I'm so appalled.

5 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

No one's blaming crap.

 

The dude is under way too much unwarranted bs right now, let alone try to coach the team.

 

Not everyone thinks hes this HORRIBLE coach.  Some actually understand hindsight and monday morning quarterbacking.

 

Why does he have to pay attention to it? Acknowledge it publicly at all?

 

I don't think anyone thinks he's a HORRIBLE coach. Just not good enough to win the Lombardi which is all that matters.

 

You should be happy and celebrating this article. As long as McDermott is as good as you think he is then the entire team is going to unite behind him and beat the Chiefs by 50 points on their way to running the table.