Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[boyst]

1 hour ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

So it was pretty accurate then...

 

https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina/piedmont-triad/davidson-county-sheriff-investigating-after-calf-shot-killed/

 

you be the judge. the opening line they gave me - "it was a friendly cow".... jeesh. thanks.

52 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Pleaseeeeeeeee do

i did 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Warcodered said:

I think at least one of the quotes and the things he wrote around it were something he hung on to for a while. The part around the whole 13 seconds thing he's quoting someone and says that they're currently happy on another team and the way the whole thing looks it's probably either Levi Wallace or Jerry Hughes but neither of them are even starting anymore. So it's like he wrote it a while ago and didn't think that things might not be going so great for them anymore.

 

I think you've been incorrectly assuming that when he wrote "One defensive starter" he meant that player is currently a starter. When really, it more likely refers to a player who was starting on Defense for the Bills in that 2021 game.

[BringBackFlutie]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

 

He went walked away from HC of the Bills to become the OL coach of the Jags, who at the time were terrible. Had an opportunity as interim, to which they kept him and he had 1 "good" season, where he finished 10-6 carried by the defense. Marrone ultimately finished his time in Jacksonville with a .348 record. Had he been with a franchise with a real owner he would have lost his job much sooner than he did. 

Afterwards he has strictly been an OL coach. 

Marrone 100% flamed out of the NFL HC circle. 
 

 

It's fascinating that he's an OC, but has never had a successful offense, and has always had a top 3 defense.

 

I wish McD were as good at hiring OCs as Marrone was at hiring DCs.

[TheFunPolice]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ehh, maybe. But most of what I see about Belichick from former players is how funny he actually is. Almost the opposite of McD who has a nice, friendly public demeanor but can't relate to his players. Belichick has a gruff reputation, but behind the scenes players think he's one of the funniest guys of all time.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-humor-funny-ezekiel-elliott-juju-smith-schuster

 

https://www.irishstar.com/sport/other-sports/bill-belichicks-funniest-moments-new-30364964

 

https://theathletic.com/2889665/2021/10/29/its-fun-at-gunpoint-the-comedy-stylings-of-bill-belichick/

 

 

Thank you! This line of "well, every coach has a parade of people eager to destroy him" is total BS. 

 

I mentioned it yesterday, but everyone knows why some players didn't like Belichick. He can be a grumpy miserable guy, and will demand absolute adherence to his methods. 

 

You only get a multiple part series when someone is trying to portray themselves as something they are not. What would Belichick's be? He's like a grumpy old uncle and loves to embarrass players during film sessions for screwing up, most of all Tom Brady? Wow, you don't say! 

 

Football players and coaches can handle that stuff because it's fact. You missed a block here. You made a bad read. Etc. 

 

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I think at least one of the quotes and the things he wrote around it were something he hung on to for a while. The part around the whole 13 seconds thing he's quoting someone and says that they're currently happy on another team and the way the whole thing looks it's probably either Levi Wallace or Jerry Hughes but neither of them are even starting anymore. So it's like he wrote it a while ago and didn't think that things might not be going so great for them anymore.

 

I still blame levi wallace for that.  I don't care what freaking defense is called.  You cant line up across from no one.  

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina/piedmont-triad/davidson-county-sheriff-investigating-after-calf-shot-killed/

 

you be the judge. the opening line they gave me - "it was a friendly cow".... jeesh. thanks.

i did 

 

Aww man, I'm really sorry to hear this. Those cows didnt deserve that.

 

Nice hat and pretty cows in the vid.

 

Again, really sorry. What a bummer. *****in bumpkins.

[HappyDays]

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Aww man, I'm really sorry to hear this. Those cows didnt deserve that.

 

Nice hat and pretty cows in the vid.

 

Again, really sorry. What a bummer. *****in bumpkins.

i had been wearing this 90's shania twain tshirt (farm shirt) all day and my wife made me change it.

 

[BillMafia716ix]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

Coach McDermott is a good man. Okay we get it the Bills aren’t having the season we all expected but that doesn’t mean you go out and try to sabotage his name. If the Bills were 9-3 does this article come out? No. That’s why I don’t respect it. Easy to kick a man when he down.

[DuckyBoys]

36 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I didn't say that.  Obviously the 2018 & 2019 Allen was a work in progress and far from the elite QB he is today.  What I was responding to was your continued parroting of the false narrative that McD did a good job "developing" Allen.  IMO the evidence from those two years, particularly 2018, was that Allen was thrown to the wolves.

 

The fact is that McD had a "plan" for Allen's development that was poorly designed and executed (sound familiar).  The plan involved bringing AJ McCarron in as the "vet" QB Allen could learn from.  The problem was that no one told McCarron before he signed that was going to be his role and he wanted no part of it.  Then the plan was to let Allen sit and learn while Peterman was named the starting QB.  And how long did that last?  It lasted until Peterman had set a new NFL record for consecutive offensive possessions without getting a 1st down in game 1. In what alternate universe are we going to call this a good plan?

 

 

There was no plan.  Allen succeeded in spite of Sean McDermott not because of him.  They treated the offense like the least important thing on the team.    Just rehash the personnel moves that were made to get talent around Allen till they finally got Diggs.   Took 5 years to finally get O line settled and the Bills have not had a bellcow back other  teams prepare for ever under Sean.

[TheFunPolice]

I understand the sentiment about McDermott being a good person.

 

One has to wonder why so many people would be looking to hurt him and his reputation, that being the case. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but Frank Reich was a walking disaster in Indy. Nobody listened to him or respected him as HC. It was like there was a substitute teacher there. He had to go.

 

But Reich the human? You don't see guys eager to line up and take shots, even though it was a mess. He tried, he just wasn't good at the job. That's no reason to tear the guy apart. 

 

That's why you don't see these long stories about other coaches. This isn't normal. 

 

So why McDermott? 

[Success]

Just now, HappyDays said:

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

 

Yeah - agreed.  He is clearly - to me - someone who tries to do things the right way.  His intentions are good.

 

So many of these media firestorms are undeserved.  Tons of people pile on, like they have never said a stupid thing in their lives.  The last thing I want is to be judged by my worst moments.

 

[FilthyBeast]

33 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

Marrone washed out of the league pretty quickly after Buffalo. 

Terry Pegula tried to keep him.

 

Marrone took the Jaguars to the AFCCG and has accomplished 2 things McDummy hasn't:

 

1) Won a road playoff game

2) Played the Patriots down to the wire in the AFFCG and led halfway through the 4th quarter before Brady did his thing.

 

Keep in mind this was with a marginal NFL starter in Blake Bortles

 

Rex Ryan also did the same with the Jets, also with a marginal NFL starter.

 

So for the Bills fans that insist this loser is the best head coach we've had since Marv Levy, it's really time to rethink that and understand that without Josh Allen he'd been fired long ago and quite frankly at best on par with Ryan/Marrone.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

i had been wearing this 90's shania twain tshirt (farm shirt) all day and my wife made me change it.

 

 

Ok, I was very bummed after the news story, but now I feel better picturing you wearing this while sticking your arm in a cow and quietly singing to yourself "Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy, forget I'm a lady, Men's shirts, short skirts Oh, oh, oh, really go wild, yeah, doin' it in style Oh, oh, oh, get in the action, feel the attraction Color my hair, do what I dare Oh, oh, oh, I wanna be free, yeah, to feel the way I feel"

[dave mcbride]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

I agree.

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think you've been incorrectly assuming that when he wrote "One defensive starter" he meant that player is currently a starter. When really, it more likely refers to a player who was starting on Defense for the Bills in that 2021 game.

So the player went from being a starter here to not being a starter on a different team and was "currently happy" that's your theory?

[cgg716]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

I don't think the piece is as much an attack on his character as he seems to believe. It does criticize his coaching though. And questions certain things. He's spun that valid criticism to make himself a sympathetic character 

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Man I have criticized McDermott's coaching but he doesn't deserve this. He's a good man.

I mean if it's true...

[TheFunPolice]

I've actually enjoyed seeing all of the former coaches, former players, and current players who are outraged over this and have come out to defend McDermott rather than let this fester. 

[Saint Doug]

24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

But he's not getting fired. The owner loves him and he has had enough success here W/L wise, and will continue to as long as Allen is here. 

 

And he will never live this down. It's been 20+ years, but a lot of people still have raw emotions about 9/11. This is the only team that actually plays in NY State, and I would expect a less than warm welcome for Sean the next time the Bills play at Met Life. 

 

I do expect the team to make the playoffs, which will of course be used as a reason to keep McDermott. Eventually the issues with Diggs only end one way: him off the team. Then we have to fill the WR spot in rounds 5-7, because we'll draft a DB or LB in rounds 1-3 who McDermott won't play next season because he's not a veteran player. 

 

Rinse and repeat. 

 

 

 

May be a little conspiracy-ish, but I have to wonder if this was an intentional leak by someone higher up in the FO. Why is this coming out now? It happened almost 4 years ago. We have an owner that can’t really fire him for having a down year, despite multiple on-field meltdowns. But now we have this. And we will always have this. 

24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Saint Doug