Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[Drew21PA]

Woah. Actually got more from the chiefs board about all this but holy smokes

 

terrorisr reference?

 

jealous of daboll becuase he talked to people better and people liked him ?

 

dude is a fraud it appears - as if I didn’t know that from the last several years but makes sense now

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

When he really wants to get pumped up….he probably blasts this in his truck on repeat on the way to OBD.

 

 

That song was a low key banger back in the day. We need more rap rock. The country is falling apart without it!

[JohnNord]

Oddly enough this article has taken a life of its own.  There’s 3 different camps among fans:

 

1. People who want McD fired and are using this as their victory lap.

 

2. People who want McD fired and question the motives/authenticity of this article

 

3. People who support McDermott and question the motives/authenticity of this article
 

Then you have those in the Buffalo media who have largely stayed quiet on the article, other than acknowledging it.

 

And national media - who mostly recommend this article but have relatively little to say other than sharing the 9/11 story and saying “wow, that’s crazy.”

 

So overall the response has been incredibly odd.  I tend to think the intent & timing of this was wisely orchestrated by Dunne, as discussed here already.  
 

But I don’t think it was a slam dunk for his reputation. 

[Man with No Name]

18 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Ive mentioned this before, but I have a family member who works for the Eagles organization.

 

Nick Sirianni is a grade A douche.  Poor behavior towards assistants, throws coaches under the bus to the team, throws players under the bus, contradicts himself.  But that doesn’t matter because his team is winning.  The public doesn’t care that Nick is an ass to his coaches room, or is an ego driven narcissist, because his team is doing well.  
 

Most head coaches in the NFL are #######s.  But success breeds ignorance to that.  These stories from 2019,2020… they don’t come up until we are 6-6.  No one cares about the Chad hall stuff if we are 9-3.

 

thats why I chuckle at “we need to get rid of Sean now and replace him”. Replace with who?  Bill B?  The biggest control freak in NFL history?  An unproven OC?  We really want that risk during Allen’s prime years?  A retread head coach?

 

I don’t care if Sean is a control freak, that tells me he is a normal head coach lol.  He was dumb for the 2019 comments, and im sure some players didn’t like him.  But the guy has finally brought some winning to Buffalo, and now we want to tear him down.  It’s funny to me

I think you’re right if the insiders in the org new about it.

Here is the thing about Nick S. He is smarter than McD. I believe he played a huge part in developing a game plan to almost beat us in the playoffs with a far inferior team. Josh had to play like superman with huge plays from unlikely heroes like Gabe Davis to come out with that win. I grew up near Nick, from a different town, and this description of him doesn't surprise me, though disappointing. I thought he would have changed from the person he was as a high school kid. I know I've changed a lot since then. Though maybe having so much success isn't great for bringing humility to a person. 

[boyst]

19 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

That macdermott admitted to what he said makes him more credible!

where was this ? i missed this.

[Tommy Callahan]

Bill B?  really. Wants a QB that makes no mistakes. 

 

Similar offence. Totally different D.  would have to find and pay man corners.  thumper LB. 3-4 line.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Tommy Callahan

[Yobogoya!]

Just now, boyst said:

where was this ? i missed this.

 

Press conference after it came out yesterday, he acknowledged it. 

 

Honestly as poor taste as it was, no less than four seasons of Bills players have come and gone out of the locker room since then. If it was any kind of a big deal to them, we'd have heard about it a long time ago. 

 

Plenty of reasons to criticize McD without this. I hate this culture of judging people by the stupidest thing they've ever said. 

[Drew21PA]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

where was this ? i missed this.

He admitted saying it and that the context didn’t get across correctly and he felt the players understood 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

where was this ? i missed this.

Did You miss the headline nfl coach apologizes for using 911 terrorists to motivate his team??? 
 

😂😂😂

 

how could a grown man think this was a good thing to say? My college coach told us to be a bunch of pricks and be up their “butts” all game. That was a Better pep talk! 
 

hey, 911 Sean, beat the Chiefs and we will forget about your stupidity for a week. 

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

where was this ? i missed this.

 

He held a press conference yesterday and publicly apologized

 

 

[Scott7975]

29 minutes ago, boyst said:

that Dunne has Pat Moron on his side gives him less credibility

Sure if you say so. I believe his article. 

[colin]

ok, so we need to win out, win the chip, and fire our hc, light work!!

 

the fact that he came out and admitted the 9/11 story in the article seems like a tactical blunder -- it makes everything in the article seem valid.

 

this embarrassment along w our playoff exits and d blunders are likely enough to fire mcd, but in addition, the lack of cleverness shown by him admitting what seems like the most inflammatory part of the story shows compounded poor judgement.

 

if he weren't DC as well as HC, i'd think firing him and promoting brady would give us our best shot at the chip this season.  mcd has provided himself a blanket of protection by hiring the gm instead of the other way around, but in doing so, he has likely sealed his own doom -- it just isn't likely to happen until the end of the year.

 

[Einstein]

 

[BillsSbSoon]

McDermott looks wide eyed and nervous like the walls are closing in in that presser. His tone in general has been way different this year in his pressers if anyone has noticed. He used to be dismissive, dictatorial-like towards reporters in the past. He’s been lighter this year

Edited December 8, 2023 by BillsSbSoon

[dave mcbride]

15 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

In McD's defense, a bunch of regular guys with 5th grade educations coming together to change the world is pretty inspiring as long as you leave out the part about human atrocity and that the perpetrators were motivated by promises of losing their V-cards in the afterlife.  

Wait a second here. Mohammed Atta graduated from Cairo University for undergrad and went to the Hamburg University of Technology's graduate program in urban planning! 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Sure if you say so. I believe his article. 

 

It was more a burn on that dummy Pat Moran who will never live down sacrificing his child for a fake Shawn Merriman steroids story.

[wettlaufer]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

I remember Marv Levy told his teams Germany didn’t prevail in WW 2 because Hitler couldn’t win on the road.

 

Did people freak out about that comment?

 

I was at a cocktail party ten years ago and relayed that anecdote. I don't think the woman was a Bills fan or a student of WWII. It didn't go over too well.

[Cray51]

7 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I think it’s a valid point that if there are droves of former coaches coming forward, Sean is against the norm.

 

but former coaches have had situations with Bill Bellicheck, with McDaniels, we’ve seen players get into it with Carroll

 

most coaches don’t get 6 years on one team to build that level of tenure and possibility of frustration

[LABILLBACKER]

I just want a change.  I could care less the timing of this article.  Thanks Sean for building the foundation but your roof is leaking everywhere. You never have nor never will have the coaching chops to get this team deep in the playoffs.  Your decision to not build a better offense around Josh will always be your biggest fail.  And your personality querks just don't fly in a locker room. The Houston game was a warning flag. Your defense getting annihilated by KC for 80 points in consecutive playoff loses is unacceptable. It's long overdue to get a good offensive HC hired.

[stuvian]

As much as I endorse and participate in the creator economy (cough cough, check out my Medium profile) I have to note exceptions to a few of these takes. 

 

Remember when Andy Reid had a reputation as an in-game choke artist? It wasn't that long ago. Since he's coached Mahomes, he's a genius. Every coach blows a few calls in crunch time. Pete Carroll, anyone?

 

People are upset that Clappy wanted a run-based, cold weather offense? We must play 6 to 8 games a year in bad weather yet our roster is built like a dome track team. We've effectively negated our home field advantage. 

 

When the going gets tough, coordinators get fired. It's never fair and its usually political window dressing but it's an unavoidable reality in coaching. There was a coach a few years back whose name escapes me who refused to fire coordinators during a losing streak when ownership wanted a dead body on the floor. The HC refused  out of loyalty and he and his entire crew were let go. 

 

Rivera fired Del Rio after an embarrassing loss on Thanksgiving after they salary dumped their two best defenders in Young and Sweat. Fair, no but it's how the game is played. Ownership calls the shots. Clappy fired Dorsey because he had a gun to his head. 

 

So Clappy referenced 9-11 in trying to inspire his troops. A risky play to be sure but coaches have to get weird to keep players playing hard over seventeen games of debilitating pain. Remember when Jack Del Rio chopped down a tree in the locker room and injured his punter?

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/jacksonville-jaguars/post/_/id/27399/jaguars-infamous-ax-didnt-keep-chopping-but-its-still-around

 

He got another HC gig with the Raiders after this. 

 

I'm as disappointed as anyone by the lackluster 6-6 season. We're still just two games behind KC and Jacksonville with 5 games to play.

 

After watching Cincy's backup QB dismantle the playoff bound Jags, we know that anything can happen including our Bills pulling it together for a run.

 

I think Terry hired Beane and Clappy as a legacy hire. Of course they have to earn it but a revolving door of firings relegates us to the status of the Bears, Jets and Cards. McDermott has 5 games to turn this around. Let's see if he's up to the task before making changes.