RochesterLifer Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: To answer your first question - yes. To answer your second question - HE DID. I've noticed that the people most upset about Dunne's work are those who obviously didn't even read it. As for the rest of your post, it reminds me of the old saying "There is no truth or reality. Only perception." Dunne gave the public a perception of McDermott that people who worked with him have. Who are you to say that those perceptions are any less valid than the positive perceptions of McDermott? I read it and thought it was crap. Any other false caveats you would like to float? 1 2 Quote
Virgil Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Sure. Terry Pegula's "people" called the unemployed and nondescript writer, Tyler Dunne, to write this big piece on McDermott and drop it during the week of the teams biggest game of the season just to have "enough ammo" to fire his head coach. Terry: Sean, I thought this over and I think we have to let you go as coach of the Bills. Sean: Ok boss, but can you tell me why? I know we don't have a Super Bowl yet, but I have turned this franchise around, we are a contender, the stadium is full, the Bills get National attention, they are building you a new stadium, we don't suck like the Sabres ... Terry; Yes, but remember that speech you gave in 2019, the one about the 911 terrorists ... See! You get it 😋 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: How can you say it was a non-factor? You could see how motivated they all were. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks maybe Beane paid Dunne to put this out there to unite the team. The game turned on a stupid penalty by a Chief's WR before a stunning play vs the Bills D, not because the Bills rallied around McD for an article. If Toney steps back a foot, every "this is a hit piece" poster would have nothing to say this AM. 1 1 3 Quote
Peter Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The game turned on a stupid penalty by a Chief's WR before a stunning play vs the Bills D, not because the Bills rallied around McD for an article. If Toney steps back a foot, every "this is a hit piece" poster would have nothing to say this AM. I enjoyed beating KC, but you are correct. If Toney did not do what he did, today's mood would be very different. Yesterday would have been yet another time that McD's defense gave up a game losing drive (unless Josh was able to engineer a TD in response with a little over a minute left to play). We shall see how the rest of the season goes. Hopefully, we (the Buffalo Bills) will not be the but of any more jokes as a result of McD (See SNL and all of the memes on X/Twitter). In the meantime, McD needs to add Toney to his Christmas card list (together with Andy Dalton). Toney saved the day for us and McD. P.S. As I also mentioned up thread, Dunne's article accomplished at least one thing: McClappy called a much more aggressive defense on KC's last drive than he typically does. 3 1 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Peter said: I enjoyed beating KC, but you are correct. If Toney did not do what he did, today's mood would be very different. Yesterday would have been yet another time that McD's defense gave up a game losing drive (unless Josh was able to engineer a TD in response with a little over a minute left to play). We shall see how the rest of the season goes. Hopefully, we (the Buffalo Bills) will not be the but of any more jokes as a result of McD (See SNL and all of the memes on X/Twitter). In the meantime, McD needs to add Toney to his Christmas card list (together with Andy Dalton). Toney saved the day for us and McD. P.S. As I also mentioned up thread, Dunne's article accomplished at least one thing: McClappy called a much more aggressive defense on KC's last drive than he typically does. Seems like he blitzed mahomes a lot more than usual (and is typically advised)… not sure that was a result of the article though but noticeable 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like he blitzed mahomes a lot more than usual (and is typically advised)… not sure that was a result of the article though but noticeable He's been doing it all season so I hesitate to give the article credit for anything we saw last night. Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like he blitzed mahomes a lot more than usual (and is typically advised)… not sure that was a result of the article though but noticeable He's considerably more aggressive in his play calling than Frazier is 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The game turned on a stupid penalty by a Chief's WR before a stunning play vs the Bills D, not because the Bills rallied around McD for an article. If Toney steps back a foot, every "this is a hit piece" poster would have nothing to say this AM. I suppose if they then didn't call the second penalty he committed if he'd still gotten there in time for his pick block to free Kelce to be wide open. 1 Quote
Peter Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like he blitzed mahomes a lot more than usual (and is typically advised)… not sure that was a result of the article though but noticeable I cannot say for sure, but it is curious that he was about as aggressive a play caller at the end of the game as I recall seeing just a few days after some of the comments in the article. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: He's been doing it all season so I hesitate to give the article credit for anything we saw last night. For sure, but usually you don’t blitz mahomes so I was still surprised even though he had been more aggressive than Frazier with other QBs 1 Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: He's been doing it all season so I hesitate to give the article credit for anything we saw last night. McDermott smiled and showed more positive emotion than I've ever seen. That looked like a conscious effort to be more "loose" and couldn't have been coincidence. 1 3 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I suppose if they then didn't call the second penalty he committed if he'd still gotten there in time for his pick block to free Kelce to be wide open. Standing with one foot in the neutral zone gave him no such advantage. Quote
jethro_tull Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 Lots of assumptions masquerading as facts typical for the new world media approach. There isn't a coach alive (or person really) that such scrutiny wouldn't reveal flaws and perceived weaknesses in one's profession. Even among tenured coaches like Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh and Pete Carroll. It takes an organization and a team to win. A team that works together and rises above the imperfections of each individual by complementing each others strengths. Such a disgusting hit piece that isn't worth the electrons it is occupying in cyber space. 1 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: McDermott smiled and showed more positive emotion than I've ever seen. That looked like a conscious effort to be more "loose" and couldn't have been coincidence. Now this I will give McD credit for. Maybe forcing him to vulnerable opened his eyes that it's not only possible, but required. 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/10/2023 at 1:20 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Stop calling it a "hit piece". He took opinions from various sources who aren't fans of McDermott's coaching at varying degrees. I think the only source who really questioned his character was the one who thinks he's a narcissist. But that's one man's opinion and each reader can take it for whatever it's worth in their eyes. We don't get enough media about McDermott's negatives because so few who report on the Bills don't want to put that stuff out there for fear of losing access to the team. We need guys like Dunne who has the balls to write things like this because not everything is lollipops and puppy dogs when it comes to this team and its head coach. To be so sensitive about it is silly. But the thing you miss is that crap is not a real piece of journalism, but a only a 'man' with a vendetta, listing a slew of criticisms and then smushing these unrelated events together, connecting them (very, very poorly) to make the case against a man he hates. This person is not a journalist, any more than others with blogs are journalists, just a guy with his own site, charging others to pay for his 'work'. No true Bills' fan will ever read this idiot's writing again. He has no editor or fellow writers to give him feedback and such,to reign in his worst traits, as a newspaper/magazine/pro-online news organization would. I cannot imagine any fan of the Bills accepting this muckraking as legitimate journalism. So glad it is now being held up across the country for what it is--trash. Edited December 12, 2023 by Mister Defense 1 2 1 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: But the thing you miss is that crap is not a real piece of journalism, but a only a 'man' with a vendetta, listing a slew of criticisms and then smushing these unrelated events together, connecting them (very, very poorly) to make the case against a man he hates. This person is not a journalist, any more than others with blogs are journalists, just a guy with his own site, charging others to pay for his 'work'. No true Bills' fan will ever read this idiot's writing again. He has no editor or fellow writers to give him feedback and such,to reign in his worst traits, as a newspaper/magazine/pro-online news organization would. I cannot imagine any fan of the Bills accepting this muckraking as legitimate journalism. So glad it is now being held up across the country for what it is--trash. His career is in free-fall. Buffalo News -> Bleacher Report -> Blog -> ??? 1 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Standing with one foot in the neutral zone gave him no such advantage. Hard to say he was able to be at the exact place and time he needed to be to land his block, which is a penalty, who's to say that still happens if he doesn't have all but his back foot in the neutral zone when he starts. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Rico said: His career is in free-fall. Buffalo News -> Bleacher Report -> Blog -> Twobillsdrive.com There ya go 1 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: There ya go Did he leave though? I haven't seen him post since before the game. Quote
oldmanfan Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 There are a ton of people here who are exhibiting classic confirmation bias. Quote
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