Nextmanup Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web A very long read, and the other parts are only for paid subscribers, but his sources paint a picture of McD as a narcissistic control freak who won’t take accountability for anything. Do with this what you will. This is 100% precisely how I have perceived him going back to the 13 seconds incident and having watched many things since. He strikes me as TOTALLY being that kind of guy...judging his actions from the outside. I guarantee you he's the kind of guy who can't be told anything, if it differs from his own personally held view. We all know these types. I'm currently in a "wait until this guy is gone" phase before I'm going to get fully excited about the Bills again. I am also in a "wait and see" phase with regard to Pegula SELLING THE SABRES before I will be able to get excited about them. I just want him to go away. In other words, pretty much standard operating procedure for a Buffalo sports fan. Quote
Peter Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: Vince Lombardi was an askhole and Bill Parcells a ditch head. GOOGLE IT I am not aware of either one throwing others under the bus while preaching "accountability" and complementary football . . . especially while leading a defense that has given up so many game losing drives . . . . Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don’t disagree with the conclusions, but sourcing a manifesto like this with the isaiah mckenzie’s and quinton spain’s of the world has me actually defending mcdermott. Every NFL coach who’s been around for 7+ years has accumulated a list of disgruntled ex’s . So out of 300+ players, coach and staff mcdermott has had the last 7 years, one psycho reporter has religiously tracked down anybody who might have a beef with mcdermott. Reporter comes off as unhinged. 2 1 Quote
TDO'Kearney Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Let me be the naysayer who gets smacked around for a divergent view... I like Dunne. And he says he talked to 25 people for this article. That's an impressive number. But I wonder who he talked to and which ones he quoted? Coaches who were fired? Players who were cut? It would be nice if he sought out a random sample. Both McD detractors and fans. But he seemingly didn't do that. I'm not arguing McD is perfect and doesn't do any wrong. I just don't think Dunne's article is the final word. We've heard a lot of players talk about how much they love the culture of the Bills. Things aren't all bad. I think finding 25 ex-players and coaches in itself is impressive. I don't think Ty Dunne could pick and choose beyong that. The NFL is a small world and the wrong comments could keep you from being hired again. You're only going to get the brave / nothing to lose people, most are going to keep their mouths shut. 2 Quote
billsfan89 Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: I don't know about that. Many coaches get a pass because their talent isn't all that. Factor in that McD has one of the few premier QBs in the game today, and a historical first, the bar should be quite a bit higher than say it's been for Shanahan in San Fran with Garoppolo, Mullens, and Purdy, don't you think? Put Allen on the Niners and they're winning b2b Super Bowls. I haven't read anything stating that Shanahan's the single dimension holding up the team. People critizing Dunne should simply come out and accuse him of lying. He's either honest and telling the truth, or not. Based on my experiences Dunne's a very honest person. Objective, which many don't like. That shouldn't be on him however. There are 49ers fans who feel like Shanny’s holding them back. Mainly they feel like his inability to move on from Jimmy G and his inability to get his offense going in the playoffs is holding them back. Also “put Allen on the 49ers and they win a SB” is flawed logic. Had the 49ers had Josh they would have a QB with a much bigger cap number and not have the same roster. Most fanbases hate their head coach for various reasons. The Bills fanbase has valid criticisms of McD but I wouldn’t romanticize other teams head coaches to prove that point. 1 Quote
Peter Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: I don’t disagree with the conclusions, but sourcing a manifesto like this with the isaiah mckenzie’s and quinton spain’s of the world has me actually defending mcdermott. Every NFL coach who’s been around for 7+ years has accumulated a list of disgruntled ex’s . So out of 300+ players, coach and staff mcdermott has had the last 7 years, one psycho reporter has religiously tracked down anybody who might have a beef with mcdermott. Reporter comes off as unhinged. What did you think about McClappy invoking terrorists? Or, does that depend on who actually told TD?!? Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This right here already completely discredits this entire biased hit piece, and I am not even a McD excuse maker. In fact, if Bills miss the playoffs I think McD should be fired because 12 men on the field and end of Philly decisions (timeout on the FG kick, not trying with Allen and 20 seconds with 1 TO), and holding onto Dorsey 2 weeks too long. But for the last time, Dorsey EARNED his firing. He isn't a scape goat. 6 weeks prior to his firing against the weakest part of our schedule that included 3 of the worst teams in the NFL at the time we played them, the Dorsey led offense averaged 20.5 PPG, we went 2-4 and could have easily been 0-6 if not for 2 failed final plays by our 2 opponents we beat. I said it all offseason, coming back again with Dorsey was GAMBLING on Allen and Diggs prime with an unproven OC who had lots of issues in his first year and too easily out coached. First 2 games after Dorsey, offense is avg 33 ppg against 2 tough defenses, including one (Jets) the Ken Dorsey led offense averaged 17 PPG against and was 1-2 with both losses to Zack Wilson. For someone to pretend Dorsey was a scapegoat or premeditated scape goats is utterly absurd. In fact, McD's BIGGEST mistake was NOT firing Dorsey sooner. He was out of his league last year at OC, and he was clearly out of his league this year again and McD held on to the point where Bills are basically now in an 8 game playoff to try and make the SB as another loss would make it very very difficult to get into the playoffs, let alone win 3 games to get to the SB. Dude you absolutely are a McScapegoat excuse maker. I remember just a couple or so weeks ago debating with you on it and you were making excuses every which way for him. Sure, Dorsey earned his firing, but McD hired him and kept him in that position for a year and a half. Just like he kept Frazier for years. He scapegoated Frazier and then does the same exact loser soft prevent zone at the end of games that he does. And the late game coaching blunders and poor game management have been going on for years, literally since year 1. This is nothing new. He's just had #17 here to constantly bail him out until this season. It's hard for me to understand why people like yourselves can't evaluate this until things go completely off the rails, and even now you're still saying he should go only "IF" we miss the playoffs! It's truly unreal. All of his blunders and gaffes are still blunders and gaffes even if we make the playoffs. We've wasted 6 years of an elite talent at QB because of this trashbag coach who has never put in the slightest bit of work to improve himself or his preparation. That's the hard truth. 2 2 1 1 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Logic said: We tend to think of things in black and white. "Either this, or that, but not both". But in the case of this article and of coach McDermott, I think both things can simultaneously be true: I think Tyler Dunne probably DOES have a bit of an axe to grind against the Bills, he DOES seem to come out with one McDermott hit piece per year, the article IS a bit of a hatchet job, it DOES lack objectivity (like any quotes from people who actually LIKE McDermott to balance things out) and DOES present a one-sided view, and some of the quotes DO sound far-fetched and/or like sour grapes from other people with axes of their own to grind. AND I think coach McDermott probably DOES micro-manage, that he IS a bit of a hypocrite with regard to taking accountability for mistakes, that a lot of what Dunne says IS true and fair and accurate, that a lot of the quotes from the sources are valid and legitimate, and that no matter how you paint it, 25 people is a lot to be able to find to say bad things about a coach. On the one hand, I think some of Dunne's articles may be a bit heavy-handed and do have the smell of an agenda against McDermott. On the other hand, I think a lot of what Dunne says is correct and legitimate and real. Personally, I feel the same way after reading the article that I did before I read it: I think it's time to turn the page from Sean McDermott as head coach of the Buffalo Bills. I don't think he's as bad as his worst detractors say, nor as good as his staunchest defenders insist. There is nuance. There are layers. At the end of the day, I remain unmoved. I'm ready for a fresh start for the Buffalo Bills, and I'd be willing to bet a lot of the players are, too. Randy Mueller agrees with you and doesn't hide behind anonymity: https://theathletic.com/5098045/2023/11/29/nfl-coaches-on-hot-seat/. "Bills coach Sean McDermott is now front and center needing to have a plan for 6-6 Buffalo to not waste another year within the championship window of their perennial league MVP candidate Josh Allen. McDermott is known for his attention to detail and his need to micromanage at every level. But right now his only management job should be his defense, which has underperformed this season. That’s where he needs to be a difference-maker on Sundays. To be fair, some of the Bills’ issues are injury-related, but some have been a function of McDermott’s ill-timed blitzes and less-than-ideal execution. By replacing his defensive coordinator last off-season and installing himself, he has to be directly accountable for the unit’s results. His somewhat defensive responses to questions about his decisions are seen by some as an effort to pass the buck. I would love to see more transparent self-accountability. Sometimes a little humility can go a long way. Forget about Allen and his propensity to make a crucial mistake. Forget about the dismissal of offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey; at this point it doesn’t matter. Forget about the lack of reinforcements that they may have been able to add to the defense before the trade deadline and didn’t. The point to focus on is that this defense has to play better over the last third of the season or questions will start to be asked about the guy who is leading the charge. Organizational skills be damned, McDermott needs to make a difference on Sundays. The pass rush has generated sacks (41), but the sub package pressures to affect the opposing QB have been a letdown at critical times. The Bills rank 14th in opponent passer rating and 17th in getting off the field on third downs, per TruMedia. Neither is good enough to advance in the postseason. The offense is trending in the right direction with the changes instituted by McDermott. Now he must do the same with the side of the ball where his expertise lies." 6 1 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, PBF81 said: In the same way that biased McD supporters have been preaching for years. By the end of the season, perhaps sooner, if not by then, then next season, we'll know more. You do realize that the worst scoring offenses since our drought era began, before Allen took off in 2020, i.e. with one year under Taylor and two under Allen from 2017 to 2019, have been the worst on average, other than Jauron's, whose ranked only one spot lower, 26th compared to McD's 25th. If it isn't blatant that McD is clueless about offense at this point, I don't think that it will ever be to anyone defending him. But given that we have Allen and that the strength of our team is the offense, this isn't a difficult puzzle to solve. Really. I just want some clarification here. Not trying to pick a fight, but the way I'm reading this seems...odd. You're saying that in the early days of McDermott we had the worst scoring average of the drought years . Fine. Mind you we were trotting players like Mike Tolbert, Chris Ivory and Kelvin Benjamin out there as well so I see that as possible without needing to even look that up. Then over the years under McDermott we built the offense to be the strength of the team...this somehow proves McDermott is clueless about offense. Mind you I am not a McD supporter and am not defending him here. Just trying to get the rationale here is all. 1 Quote
PBF81 Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: There are 49ers fans who feel like Shanny’s holding them back. Mainly they feel like his inability to move on from Jimmy G and his inability to get his offense going in the playoffs is holding them back. That in and of itself is fair, but what's been said about his game-day decision-making and other decisions being the primary core issue holding his team back? That's what's being said in Buffalo, ... and not only by Dunne. 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Also “put Allen on the 49ers and they win a SB” is flawed logic. Had the 49ers had Josh they would have a QB with a much bigger cap number and not have the same roster. Don't you think that they could have afforded and worked in a little shift there? It's pretty certain they'd have worked it out somehow. LOL Either way, you're getting into the role of their GM there, Lynch. 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Most fanbases hate their head coach for various reasons. The Bills fanbase has valid criticisms of McD but I wouldn’t romanticize other teams head coaches to prove that point. Whose romaticizing about other coaches in this thread? Or elsewhere? It's pretty simple, if McD really is holding the team up, which many many many other people besides Tyler Dunne clearly see as being the case, then why would anyone defend against moving on? At the end of the day, and this cannot possibly be emphasized enough, our current Bills team revolves entirely around the play of the offense. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, on record to suggest that McDoesn'tKnow has the first clue about the offense, driven by his own words now in fact, and oddly that he would even admit that, but it is what it is. If that doesn't spell things out clearly, nothing will other than complete and utter collapse. ... which may lie ahead. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, PBF81 said: In the same way that biased McD supporters have been preaching for years. By the end of the season, perhaps sooner, if not by then, then next season, we'll know more. You do realize that the worst scoring offenses since our drought era began, before Allen took off in 2020, i.e. with one year under Taylor and two under Allen from 2017 to 2019, have been the worst on average, other than Jauron's, whose ranked only one spot lower, 26th compared to McD's 25th. If it isn't blatant that McD is clueless about offense at this point, I don't think that it will ever be to anyone defending him. But given that we have Allen and that the strength of our team is the offense, this isn't a difficult puzzle to solve. Really. Dude, not sure how this is so confusing for you. This is literally called confirmation bias...but both you and Dunne. Dunne has for years been down on McD, so OF COURSE he is going to write an article that supports that position. You, as a big anti McD person, are going to instantly gravitate to it and say "see, I told you" because it confirms your bias. This isn't complicated what people are saying. Now that doesn't make the article true or false, the point is, because of your personal bias that everything is McD's fault, you are going to dismiss anything that might support McD and affirm anything that condemns him, right or wrong. And your angle with Dorsey is 100% clear proof of that. There is literally no defending Dorsey, his performance last year should have got him fired instead of gambling Allen and Diggs prime on an unproven OC who had way too many growing pains last season. And then this year, he was terrible and there is a ton of film that shows the issues with the Dorsey led offense. You want to point out the first 4 games...well week 1 offense stunk. Week 2 the offense stunk for more than half the game. And when you have Josh Allen, when he gets hot it doesn't matter who the OC is, we are gonna roll. But then the offense stalled because it was not hard to figure out and didn't take the league long to figure out how to defend it and all the issues with it. And we went on a 6 game stretch where we averaged 20.5 PPG and were 2 plays away from being 0-6 because the offense was pathetic and against mostly bad to weak defenses. So...any defense of Dorsey and his firing as if Dorsey did not EARN that firing is 100% pure anti-McD bias. There are plenty of issues to discuss about McD like 12 men on the field against Denver, the TO against philly on the FG try, not trying to get or own FG with Allen and 20 seconds with a TO, etc. But to blame McD for the offense when Brady has come in and turned the offense completely around and raised the PPG by 14 points is just someone on an agenda and not objectively analyzing the situation. And people who know a lot more about football than you or I have done a ton of film coverage on what a big difference it has been switching to Brady. 3 1 Quote
FLFan Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I know this will be taken as 100% factual information, but I struggle with unnamed sources. If someone got benched for fired, they won’t have favorable reviews of McD period because lack of accountability is a very common problem. Some of these stories just sound made up, opinions, or exaggerated. And for what it’s worth, my stance on McD has changed. I do think we will be best served with a new direction. I also struggle with unnamed sources here and I question Dunne’s objectivity frankly, and not just here. It is actually not very hard to elicit negative opinions from disgruntled ex employees of any business. I think this article needs to be taken with a large grain of salt. That said, there is a lot of smoke here, even independent of Tyler’s hit piece, making it likely there is some level of problem that needs to be addressed by management in the off season. My patience with McD is certainly wearing thin. 3 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I just want some clarification here. Not trying to pick a fight, but the way I'm reading this seems...odd. You're saying that in the early days of McDermott we had the worst scoring average of the drought years . Fine. Mind you we were trotting players like Mike Tolbert, Chris Ivory and Kelvin Benjamin out there as well so I see that as possible without needing to even look that up. Then over the years under McDermott we built the offense to be the strength of the team...this somehow proves McDermott is clueless about offense. Mind you I am not a McD supporter and am not defending him here. Just trying to get the rationale here is all. You happened to miss the middle part that those of us are that are ready for Mcd to go say. Josh Allen. Josh Allen changed the offense, not Mcdefense. Take Josh Allen out of the equation, there goes all your winning seasons, and McBeane would have been fired years ago 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: I don't know about that. Many coaches get a pass because their talent isn't all that. Factor in that McD has one of the few premier QBs in the game today, and a historical first, the bar should be quite a bit higher than say it's been for Shanahan in San Fran with Garoppolo, Mullens, and Purdy, don't you think? Put Allen on the Niners and they're winning b2b Super Bowls. I haven't read anything stating that Shanahan's the single dimension holding up the team. People critizing Dunne should simply come out and accuse him of lying. He's either honest and telling the truth, or not. Based on my experiences Dunne's a very honest person. Objective, which many don't like. That shouldn't be on him however. Oh I definitely agree that McDermott has underperformed with Allen. Believe me I hold the guy primarily responsible for our collapses this year (and past), I'm not trying to defend him too hard. More like, just trying to play a little devil's advocate on what mostly amounts to an opinion piece about a man's character. McDermott has made plenty of tangible mistakes from a purely decision-standpoint that warrant discussion and criticism. If the guy's a control freak or a scrooge, frankly that's not the reason I'm firing him for. Was Dorsey a scapegoat? Or did McDermott actually go out on a limb to give the guy way more of an opportunity than he deserved? In any event, the article does seem to back up what a lot of people think about McDermott not being willing to learn from his mistakes and adapt. If true, it's just a damn shame. McDermott seems like a smarter guy than that. If he's going to stubbornly stick to the same decisions and schemes and concepts that let us down time and time again, there's no doubt in my mind he should be let go. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: In sorry but that whole thing sounds like a complete lie. McD wanted his OL to wear work boots instead of Jordan’s during a walk through? What? 3 hours ago, boyst said: See my quote above That is a very specific lie. Lies in stories are either completely fabricated or too specific with a manufactured backstory. That passes my sniff test of truth but the accuracy could always be off - as a joke. McChump could have said in a joking manner that his OL needs to be tough and not wearing Jordans. They should be wearing cowboy boots, and carharrts, and drive f650's, and dip Redman... All in a analogic metaphor. 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I agree. You are not going to risk injury to your players forcing them to wear work boats, prima facie absurd. Also more than likely a violation of many CBA and NFL rules/regulations. Wow, I leave for a couple hours to go to lunch, want to come back to talk about footwear and we're already ramped up to "McD envoking the 9/11 terrorists"! Back to this tho. Yeah, no way did he mandate or even suggest players actually wear work boots. He was obviously busting their chops and calling them out to be tougher. THAT SAID, it is piss poor coaching to even do that. Mike McDaniel sees that and buys the entire OL matching Jordans. Pete Carroll sees that and shows up in his own Jordans the next week. Bill Belichick wouldnt even notice what shoes they are wearing because he's busy making sure players know what theyre doing in situational football, and keeping Floyd off a Mayday FG defense. McD, Marrone, Greggggg Williams, and other wannabes are the type to see that and call it out that he wants "work boots and carharts". 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Simon said: When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots... This is one of those things you think/hope isn't true on one level but also kind of want to be true for Morse because it's hilarious. Though this and any other story any in there with players on the team right now seem a little odd, I mean they sound ridiculous and he has to know that someone is going to ask them about them right? Like if Morse gets asked about this story and says it never happened or explains the whole thing was just a bunch of jokes that no one cared about he's going to look like a ***** hack. 57 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This right here already completely discredits this entire biased hit piece, and I am not even a McD excuse maker. In fact, if Bills miss the playoffs I think McD should be fired because 12 men on the field and end of Philly decisions (timeout on the FG kick, not trying with Allen and 20 seconds with 1 TO), and holding onto Dorsey 2 weeks too long. But for the last time, Dorsey EARNED his firing. He isn't a scape goat. 6 weeks prior to his firing against the weakest part of our schedule that included 3 of the worst teams in the NFL at the time we played them, the Dorsey led offense averaged 20.5 PPG, we went 2-4 and could have easily been 0-6 if not for 2 failed final plays by our 2 opponents we beat. I said it all offseason, coming back again with Dorsey was GAMBLING on Allen and Diggs prime with an unproven OC who had lots of issues in his first year and too easily out coached. First 2 games after Dorsey, offense is avg 33 ppg against 2 tough defenses, including one (Jets) the Ken Dorsey led offense averaged 17 PPG against and was 1-2 with both losses to Zack Wilson. For someone to pretend Dorsey was a scapegoat or premeditated scape goats is utterly absurd. In fact, McD's BIGGEST mistake was NOT firing Dorsey sooner. He was out of his league last year at OC, and he was clearly out of his league this year again and McD held on to the point where Bills are basically now in an 8 game playoff to try and make the SB as another loss would make it very very difficult to get into the playoffs, let alone win 3 games to get to the SB. Pretty much this, Dorsey earned getting shown the door and should have gotten walked sooner, not sure McDermott necessarily was able to make that decision sooner, a position as high as OC is going to need to get the okay from ownership to get fired midseason. But either way it happened and the offense turned things around with plenty of time for McDermott to own his own failures. 1 1 Quote
PBF81 Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I just want some clarification here. Not trying to pick a fight, but the way I'm reading this seems...odd. You're saying that in the early days of McDermott we had the worst scoring average of the drought years . Fine. Mind you we were trotting players like Mike Tolbert, Chris Ivory and Kelvin Benjamin out there as well so I see that as possible without needing to even look that up. Then over the years under McDermott we built the offense to be the strength of the team...this somehow proves McDermott is clueless about offense. Mind you I am not a McD supporter and am not defending him here. Just trying to get the rationale here is all. Not at all, I appreciate the objective take and questions and back-n-forth. To start, remember, it was McD that brought Benjamin (along with many other crap JAGS) over from Carolina. So let's not discount that. That aside, the level of talent on this roster was not significantly different from Ryan's two seasons, particularly his last one, to McD's first three, other than for Allen. In 2015 we scored 397 points. (23.7/game) ... and ranked 12th in offense as such. 2016: 399, 24.9, 10th 2017: 302, 18.9, 22nd 2018: 374, 23.4, 18th 2019: 314, 19.6, 23rd That's an average of 330 before Allen skyrocketed in 2020. Keep in mind that was with Taylor also in 2017, who posted his worst season here under McD too, and Allen in 2018 and 2019 apart from a few games where "Peterman gave us the best chances of winning," according to the one that you and others are going to bat for. The only worse average for any of our coaches, not only during the draft era, but for the Bills franchise at all, was Jauron. You can connect the dots. But one of the things that cannot be done is giving McD credit for Allen's rise. That should be a given at this point. 1 Quote
JESSEFEFFER Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 After Rex, it was clear that the Pegulas wanted a detail oriented, set the right culture guy. Trouble is that details oriented leaders often obsess over nonsensical details because they do not know the one detail that can get them beat. Sometimes that one detail has been his elite, playmaking QB who can get tricked into seeing opportunities for plays that aren't really there. So, he has probably developed the thought that he needs to reign Josh in with better "situational football" acumen. For Want of a Nail For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the message was lost. For want of a message the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail. But, on the other side of the coin is Captain Queeg and his obsession with the strawberries. It takes some real wisdom to not devolve into that guy. That story about McDermott's heated altercation with a beat reporter for writing about bulletin board type material posted at drinking fountains (where the reporters could see them) and that they were practicing a fake punt play, smacked of Captain Queeg to me. As did Chris Brown's suspension for answering Tasker's on-air question about O-Line personnel groupings in a preseason practice which sounded like a McDermott inspired thing to me, too. The off season work hours thing mentioned here sounds petty and Queeg-like, as did making the "very concerned" statement about Diggs. Yeah, consistently getting beat in big games by last minute execution errors seems like evidence of a guy whose leadership fails when the game pressure is on. Sean needs some self reflection/correction before it's too late. 1 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I thought it strange that after the Giants and Bills game, McD and Daboll didn't even look at each other and didn't even shake hands. You can tell they hated each other 3 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I don’t disagree with the conclusions, but sourcing a manifesto like this with the isaiah mckenzie’s and quinton spain’s of the world has me actually defending mcdermott. Every NFL coach who’s been around for 7+ years has accumulated a list of disgruntled ex’s . So out of 300+ players, coach and staff mcdermott has had the last 7 years, one psycho reporter has religiously tracked down anybody who might have a beef with mcdermott. Reporter comes off as unhinged. we will wait for the flood of folks defending him. morse unfortunately has an uncomfortable interview coming at some point Daboll was allegedly pretty unhappy when he chose to leave. Is he scorned as a disgruntled ex too? You can’t pretend there aren’t red flags and warning signs that support this potential narrative. I said weeks ago that there was some energy around the team as if players lost faith in him 2 Quote
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