Thoughts on Knox returning?

[Mikie2times]

If you asked me to name two difference makers for the Bills on offense over the past several weeks I'm going with Shakir and Kincaid.  Some might feel Shakir is a JAG, but I think he is a sneaky good route runner. Kincaid is certainly developing into a a legit weapon in front of our eyes. I enjoy Knox's energy, I just don't know where he fits in anymore. If he takes snaps over Kinkaid I feel like we lose. If we go to 12 personnel and he takes snaps away from Shakir I feel we lose. I could see him benefiting us in situational spots as we go to 12 personnel or Dalton needs a breather, but this offense has lived in 3 WR/ 1 TE looks since the Jets game. I think that is our most prolific base formation.

 

Longer term where does Knox fit into all of it? If we cut him next year we save about 6 million. Plenty of dead money comes with it, but again 6 million in savings.  Do any of you think the long term play would be to keep them both? With Brady running point I'm more confident we will not allow his return to derail what we have been doing well. It's sort of weird to feel like this when getting an injured player back. Especially one who has made some plays in the past for us just not so much of late.  

Edited December 7, 2023 by Mikie2times

[strive_for_five_guy]

Longer-term is a trickier question.  Short term, he’s a least an upgrade in 12 personnel groupings over Quentin Morris, or is a different look in 11 personnel over Kincaid.  While not a great pass catcher, Know has been a solid weapon for Josh over the past few years.  Plus, my gut is that Brady will be able to better utilize Knox on game days than Dorsey, although we’ll see.  I’d say let’s see how the next few games play out, then revisit the question.

[Nephilim17]

I've thought something similar... Will Knox take snaps away from Kincaid who's a more reliable weapon, just because he's a number one guy according to his bloated salary?

I hope McChoke applies the same standard of you earn your playing time to the TE group, just like he did with the CBs. We shall see.

[Solomon Grundy]

Thoughts on Knox returning... I'd rather not😎

[NewEra]

His return would scare me if Dorsey were still here.  I’m excited about his return with Brady……

 

I think his return should eliminate any chance of targeting Gabe Davis 12 times in a game ever again. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by NewEra

[Big Blitz]

Knox fills in for Morris.  Takes all his snaps.  
 

Use him in run situations and few PA looks his way. 
 

He should see only 2-3 targets minimum.  
 

Diggs 10-12

Kincaid 8-10

Davis and Shakir 5-10. 
RBs 3-5

 

This about 35 passes.  

 

These numbers go up if we’re in a shootout.  Which every game minus the Patriots is going to be.   

[K D]

I've been told Knox and Gabe are good blockers. I sure hope so because they certainly can't catch. Do other teams have terrible pass catchers who are good blockers? I don't recall that being a thing that was in high demand. I don't think we have missed him. When someone at my work is out a month and we don't miss them I think it's pretty clear that we don't need them anymore.

[LABILLBACKER]

Kincaid & Shakir I guarantee you will be emphasized more the remainder of this season and next.  I like Knox but dude you're the odd man out. And expect a substantial restructure next year on his contract.  I would sign Evans to replace Davis and draft Odunze. 

[AlfaBill]

Lots of stupid takes in this thread. Between the hate for Knox and Von some of you fans need to grow up and shut up. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by AlfaBill

[Warcodered]

Knox is better than Morris this isn't that ***** hard.

[Process]

Two games with Brady Morris played 25 and 29 snaps. Bills are still using two right ends. Yes his contract sucks but we can't do anything about that now. Knox is an upgrade over Morris and we will benefit from his return. 

 

[HardyBoy]

He provides way more value, like waaay more value than you could find with a $6m TE

[Jauronimo]

Knox has made some big plays for this team when healthy.  If hes ready to go and can hold on to the ball, I'm looking forward to seeing him contribute with Brady calling the plays.

[LABILLBACKER]

36 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Lots of stupid takes in this thread. Between the hate for Knox and Von some of you fans need to grow up and shut up. 

Knox is greatly overpaid for his production and Von was a horrible FA pu.  This has nothing to do with hate.  It's called business.  And if the investigation shows DV then let the hate flow.

[damj]

OK.... whatevs ...

 

Will we stop playing stupid and finding ways to kill ourselves?!?

[Donuts and Doritos]

Eh 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Knox is better than Morris this isn't that ***** hard.

True but my concern is Josh will force more balls to Knox than he would to Morris.

[fasteddie]

Ever since Knox has been out of the lineup, the offense has been mediocre, as the Bills' record attests. Although Kincade is a more accomplished receiver, his blocking is not as good as Knox's. Plus, all the 2 tight end plays that were practiced during camp could not be used with Morris in the lineup. 

[dorquemada]

Knox is there to protect us all from Spencer brown

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

His return would scare me if Dorsey were still here.  I’m excited about his return with Brady……

 

I think he return should eliminate any chance of targeting Gabe Davis 12 times in a game ever again. 

Exactly how I feel. One of the things I was so excited for in training camp was the idea of "Man, if Dorsey can show any sign of creativity we can have one of the most flexible offenses in the league."

 

I expect that we will see effectively 11 coverage with Kincaid put into the slot. You can run unbalanced line formations. You can put Kincaid into the backfield and motion him as a H-back. Kincaid was even used in jet sweeps in college. You can motion Kincaid at the line to diagnose the coverage and be a blind while passing to Knox.

 

Versus Dorsey where we would go with 1 TE on each side and QB draw out of shotgun