Referees (Officials) announced for NFL Week 14 2023: Buffalo at Kansas City: Carl Cheffers

[chongli]

We also had Cheffers in Week 1 at the Jets and Week 1 in 2022 at the Rams!

 

NFL Capsules Week 14:

https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 14 Capsules.pdf

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Carl Cheffers: 16h season as Referee

 

Pos.	No.	Name	Exp.	2022 Crew	College	Occupation
R	51	Carl Cheffers	22	n/a	California-Irvine	Sales Manager
U	22	Brandon Cruse	2	same	South Dakota School of Mines & Technology	Mangement Consultant
DJ	63	Mike Carr	7	same	Wisconsin	Athletic Director
LJ	87	Tom Eaton	4	Rogers	Central Florida	Fiscal Manager
FJ	33	Nate Jones*	5	same	Rutgers	Firefighter/EMT
SJ	103	Eugene Hall	10	same	North Texas	Federal Agent
BJ	133	Martin Hankins	Rookie	n/a	LSU	Lamar County Circuit Clerk
RO	n/a	Kevin Brown	5	same	Purdue	retired Air Traffic Controller
RA	n/a	Karlton Derrick	2	same	Stanford	Financial Advisor

 

*Nate Jones is a former NFL player. He was a CB for Dallas, Miami, Denver, and New England from 2004-2011.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneNa20.htm

 

 

 

 

https://www.sportscasting.com/super-bowl-referee-travis-kelce-said-carl-cheffers-shouldnt-work-foot-locker/

 

"Travis Kelce Once Said Super Bowl Referee Carl Cheffers ‘Shouldn’t Even Be Able to Work at F***ing Foot Locker’'

 

"In 2016, the year before the team drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs finished 12-4 and made the playoffs with Alex Smith at quarterback. In the Wild Card Round that season, the Chiefs played the Steelers in a close, hotly-contested matchup.

 

The Chiefs went down 18-10 with under 10 minutes to go in the game. Smith then led a seven-minute, 15-play touchdown drive to get KC within two points with 2:43 left on the clock.

 

Smith and company just needed a two-point conversion to tie the game, and they got it when the Chiefs QB found Demetrius Harris in the end zone. However, NFL referee Carl Cheffers (No. 51) threw a flag and called a controversial holding call on Chiefs left tackle Eric Fisher.

 

The next attempt failed. Ben Roethlisberger got the ball back, the Steelers got a 1st-down, and Big Ben took three knees to end the game.

After the game, Travis Kelce didn’t hold back.

 

The then-budding star said if NFL referees “want to take over the game and make it their own platform, there’s nothing you can do about it.”

 

Kelce vehemently asserted it wasn’t a hold on Fisher and then went on to crush Cheffers in a classic rant that could only have come from the outspoke tight end.

 

“[We] just got out jugulars ripped out because ref felt bad for James Harrison falling on the ground,” Kelce fumed. “It’s ignorance. The ref, No. 51, shouldn’t even be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again. He shouldn’t even be able to work at f***ing Foot Locker.”'

 

 

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/01/31/super-bowl-referee-carl-cheffers-stats

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"Based on Carl Cheffers Stats, Expect Lots of Flags and the Under in Super Bowl LVII"

 

"According to BetArizona.com, which was kind enough to send me some stats, Cheffers ranked first in total penalties called per game this season at 12.59. Cheffers also led all NFL refs in penalties called last season.

 

He also was first in total yards in penalties given per game at 109.94.

 

Cheffers and his crew (which will be different for the Super Bowl) also called 21 pass interferences this season, which ranked second among NFL refs."

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by chongli

[chongli]

 

LOL...Chiefs fans freaking out. See the comments in the tweet below:

 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by chongli

[Brand J]

Somebody get those Kelce quotes to Cheffers. I’m sure he’s heard/seen them before, but it’d be nice to give him a reminder before Sunday. 

[PonyBoy]

UH OH!!!

 

[That's No Moon]

You know it's bad when this has to be a thread. 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

You know it's bad when this has to be a thread. 

It's always a thread this isn't new.

 

More flavor to the bias though.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Warcodered

[Goin Breakdown]

Dayum. I'm still pissed about the eagles game and now reading all this makes me mad about the KC game and we haven't even been screwed over yet. 

[RiotAct]

regarding Mike Hanchey’s tweet (err, X) towards the bottom of your post… I can’t think of one time Cheffers tried to protect Rodgers with a b.s. call in the season opener!

[North Buffalo]

Someone pay the man,  get a bag of money to him thru back channels... lol 

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, North Buffalo said:

Someone pay the man,  get a bag of money to him thru back channels... lol 

Git er done, Beane… umm, I mean, Pegula!

[Freddie's Dead]

Called the bull#### INT against the Rams then made up for it with the holding call at the end.  Meh.

[chongli]

So on the KC forum, there is an entire thread about Carl Cheffers.

 

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=351263

 

The OP asked what you think his worse call will be in the game.

 

Some answers:

 

1. Calling Andy Reid for a personal foul eating a cheeseburger.

 

2:

 

3. 

"Bills DT will copy the Eagles and attempt to dive to catch the spike when Mahomes is setting up Butker for the game winning field goal. Mahomes will see it and turn a bit when spiking the ball to avoid a pick.

Refs will call Mahomes for intentional grounding, which will push us out of field goal range.

Mahomes will be forced to attempt a Hail Mary. Kelce will tackle all Bills DBs to free up MVS.

Mahomes will throw a perfect pass, which MVS will drop to lose the game."

 

4. The NFL doesn't want KC in the SB this year.

 

5.

"Did Carl cost us a Super Bowl by teaming up with brady? Yeah.

Has he screwed us over numerous times in the regular season? Yeah.

But after the crowd subdued him during the Raiders game after his terrible call against Chris Jones' great sack and strip play, I think he got scared straight. He didn't screw us over in the Super Bowl and actually let us win.

He's still got an ankle monitor on in my book, but I'm going to be charitable and let him leave the referee house occasionally. I'm willing to judge him on his behavior going forward and not on the crimes of his past."

 

6. Another posted this is his first game back in KC since their Raiders game with Derek Carr:

 

7. Someone said there will be a lot of bitching about his calls in the GDT.

 

[Note: Microsoft Edge's spell check does not want to suggest "bitching" as the correct choice no matter how clos I am to the correct spelling!]

Edited December 8, 2023 by chongli

[PetermansRedemption]

That Chris Jones roughing the passer call on KC could possibly be the worst call I’ve ever seen. 

[chongli]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

That Chris Jones roughing the passer call on KC could possibly be the worst call I’ve ever seen. 

 

Or this maybe?

 

 

[Scott7975]

On 12/5/2023 at 7:55 PM, chongli said:

Cheffers ranked first in total penalties called per game this season at 12.59

 

Pfff rookie.  Hochuli called 10 on the Bills in the first half.  Averages 15 a game and thats only 8th highest.  The highest being Hussey with 16.2 lol.  I knew this season was bad.  Cheffers up to 13.8 so far this year. Note this includes all flags thrown.  Its slightly lower on accepted penalties. 

 

Cheffers has thrown 56 penalties against the home team and 60 against away teams.  He reffed the Jets game week 1 where he flagged us 5 times for 40 yards vs 2 for 10.  He has not worked a Chiefs game this year.

 

Cheffers most called penalties are...

 

False start 26

Offensive holding 20

Defensive PI 11

 

He has only called 3 roughing the passer calls all year

 

 

On a side note: how has Kelce not gotten the Hughes treatment after those comments haha.

Edited December 10, 2023 by Scott7975

[Scott7975]

6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

That Chris Jones roughing the passer call on KC could possibly be the worst call I’ve ever seen. 

 

The one above against the Raiders?  Thats 100% RTP.  He landed on him with full body weight.  You haven't been able to do that for years.  There have been many far worse calls than that.

[PetermansRedemption]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

The one above against the Raiders?  Thats 100% RTP.  He landed on him with full body weight.  You haven't been able to do that for years.  There have been many far worse calls than that.

But he has the ball prior to that happening. Without the fumble, maybe? But once he has the ball this is Carr tackling him, not the other way around. In that case, how can he get a roughing the passer penalty by being tackled? 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

But he has the ball prior to that happening. Without the fumble, maybe? But once he has the ball this is Carr tackling him, not the other way around. In that case, how can he get a roughing the passer penalty by being tackled? 

Yeah good point.  I didn't notice it Im so tired to be honest.  Im really not sure how that works then lol

[1ManRaid]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

But he has the ball prior to that happening. Without the fumble, maybe? But once he has the ball this is Carr tackling him, not the other way around. In that case, how can he get a roughing the passer penalty by being tackled? 

 

20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Yeah good point.  I didn't notice it Im so tired to be honest.  Im really not sure how that works then lol

 

No, it doesn't work like that.  Guys get flagged for RTP when the ball is gone from the QB's hands all the time.  It's a bang bang play that they have to call live, and the follow through on the hit is just as important as the initial contact.  Where the ball technically is has zero relevance to the real world impact of the hit being initiated before the ball was lost and followed through on after.

 

You can't land with your full body weight on a QB, period.  Having the good fortune to end up with the ball in the process doesn't change what you did.

[PetermansRedemption]

1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

No, it doesn't work like that.  Guys get flagged for RTP when the ball is gone from the QB's hands all the time.  It's a bang bang play that they have to call live, and the follow through on the hit is just as important as the initial contact.  Where the ball technically is has zero relevance to the real world impact of the hit being initiated before the ball was lost and followed through on after.

 

You can't land with your full body weight on a QB, period.  Having the good fortune to end up with the ball in the process doesn't change what you did.

A few things about this very unique case though. 1) in this situation wouldn’t Carr be the defender? His team no longer has possession of the ball.  2) if they really wanted to penalize, it should have been Chiefs ball with a 15 yard personal foul penalty occurring post change of possession, IMO.